Review of Downtube Mini with internal hub
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Originally Posted by invisiblehand
Pine Cone ...
I have not gotten to the stage where I think about brakes ... but I will switch to Big Apples.
Hey ... I will visit my Pop in Hercules (San Francisco/Oakland for everyone who does not live in the area). Perhaps we should have a "mini" convention?
-G
I have not gotten to the stage where I think about brakes ... but I will switch to Big Apples.
Hey ... I will visit my Pop in Hercules (San Francisco/Oakland for everyone who does not live in the area). Perhaps we should have a "mini" convention?
-G
I used to bike through Hercules when I lived in Berzerkly many moons ago, but while I am still on the left coast I am now a lot further north...
Like always everybody needs to post pictures of their mods...
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Originally Posted by invisiblehand
What are your plans?
-G
-G
I have images of making this a "super-mini" also. It would be fun to trick it out with some nice components. I really like my first DT IX - with Velocity wheels, a real nice drivetrain, etc. Looked really nice. I'd like to do something like that with the Mini eventually. I'm not in a real rush, though. Just gonna make it comfy to ride and then think about the artistic creation.
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Originally Posted by Pine Cone
I have been using the one- or two-finger brake levers for so long the full sized levers like the Mini uses feel strange.
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Originally Posted by SesameCrunch
What are these brake levers you speak of? Can you give me a reference?
I ordered them from Jenson USA at https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...ke+Levers.aspx and I hope they are like the one's I already have.
I got my DT Mini this evening. My accessories should arrive over the next few days. I like it so far. The cranks are nicer than the ones on the VIIIH, and I had no problems with the initial assembly. I will do more disassembly, parts greasing, wheel truing, etc. after parts arrive.
First impressions are good. As stated elsewhere, responsive, not hard to wheelie, feels like a fun bike, brakes work well, gear range very reasonable. Wheels seem true, seat better than I expected. It does not have the mini-bar ends that come on other DTs. Mounting a front fender would be easy. Mounting a rear fender or a frame-mounted rear rack may be challenging. There are one pair of threaded holes on the rear dropouts, but no other holes for mounting anything on the rear half of the bike. Looks like seatpost mounted racks are the best option.
A quick test with the Samsonite F'Lite indicates that I will probably have to remove the pedals, seat and both wheels to get it into the suitcase. More details later. Might have to remove the stempost.
With luck I will try my commute (10 km each way) on the Mini on Friday.
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Thanks, Pine Cone. I'm looking at new brake levers for my recumbent DT, so I'm interested in options.
Good luck on your Mini!
I'm still checking for delivery trucks every hour....
Good luck on your Mini!
I'm still checking for delivery trucks every hour....
Originally Posted by Pine Cone
I like levers that aren't long enough for all four fingers. Look for Avid Single Digits or similar levers that have room for two fingers. I like the Avid's I got for my DT VIIIH.
I ordered them from Jenson USA at https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...ke+Levers.aspx and I hope they are like the one's I already have.
I got my DT Mini this evening. My accessories should arrive over the next few days. I like it so far. The cranks are nicer than the ones on the VIIIH, and I had no problems with the initial assembly. I will do more disassembly, parts greasing, wheel truing, etc. after parts arrive.
First impressions are good. As stated elsewhere, responsive, not hard to wheelie, feels like a fun bike, brakes work well, gear range very reasonable. Wheels seem true, seat better than I expected. It does not have the mini-bar ends that come on other DTs. Mounting a front fender would be easy. Mounting a rear fender or a frame-mounted rear rack may be challenging. There are one pair of threaded holes on the rear dropouts, but no other holes for mounting anything on the rear half of the bike. Looks like seatpost mounted racks are the best option.
A quick test with the Samsonite F'Lite indicates that I will probably have to remove the pedals, seat and both wheels to get it into the suitcase. More details later. Might have to remove the stempost.
With luck I will try my commute (10 km each way) on the Mini on Friday.
I ordered them from Jenson USA at https://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...ke+Levers.aspx and I hope they are like the one's I already have.
I got my DT Mini this evening. My accessories should arrive over the next few days. I like it so far. The cranks are nicer than the ones on the VIIIH, and I had no problems with the initial assembly. I will do more disassembly, parts greasing, wheel truing, etc. after parts arrive.
First impressions are good. As stated elsewhere, responsive, not hard to wheelie, feels like a fun bike, brakes work well, gear range very reasonable. Wheels seem true, seat better than I expected. It does not have the mini-bar ends that come on other DTs. Mounting a front fender would be easy. Mounting a rear fender or a frame-mounted rear rack may be challenging. There are one pair of threaded holes on the rear dropouts, but no other holes for mounting anything on the rear half of the bike. Looks like seatpost mounted racks are the best option.
A quick test with the Samsonite F'Lite indicates that I will probably have to remove the pedals, seat and both wheels to get it into the suitcase. More details later. Might have to remove the stempost.
With luck I will try my commute (10 km each way) on the Mini on Friday.
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I too have recently become one of the Mini owners on BF; got it a few weeks ago since my Strida has been disabled. I've been taking it on the NJTransit train into NYC, and occasionally have taken it on the subway. Rode it across the Brooklyn Bridge last week, feeling like a king! I guess I've got about 200 miles on it by now. A few comments:
My seatpost is 30.4. Are there really any Minis with 27.2 seatposts?
I had no trouble mounting fenders, which I got from Sunrise Cyclery.
It seems my suspension is bottomed out most of the time, except when climbing; even on slight inclines it starts bouncing, which I don't like much --feels like a flat tire-- but I'm getting used to it. Would be nice to tighten the suspension; anyone know how that's done? My weight --160lbs-- shouldn't be the problem.
How do you pick this thing up? Every time I lift it up to put it on the overhead luggage rack on the train, I 'm at a loss for how to hold it, and how to put it on the rack. There are no good hand holds (but lots of bad ones!). Has anyone developed a foolproof technique?
Rudi
My seatpost is 30.4. Are there really any Minis with 27.2 seatposts?
I had no trouble mounting fenders, which I got from Sunrise Cyclery.
It seems my suspension is bottomed out most of the time, except when climbing; even on slight inclines it starts bouncing, which I don't like much --feels like a flat tire-- but I'm getting used to it. Would be nice to tighten the suspension; anyone know how that's done? My weight --160lbs-- shouldn't be the problem.
How do you pick this thing up? Every time I lift it up to put it on the overhead luggage rack on the train, I 'm at a loss for how to hold it, and how to put it on the rack. There are no good hand holds (but lots of bad ones!). Has anyone developed a foolproof technique?
Rudi
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Originally Posted by Pine Cone
Like always everybody needs to post pictures of their mods...
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According to Yan, all of the Minis now have 27.2 posts.
Anybody have an idea of how thick the wall needs to be for a stem post?
Anybody have an idea of how thick the wall needs to be for a stem post?
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Originally Posted by invisiblehand
According to Yan, all of the Minis now have 27.2 posts.
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Mine arrived yesterday with a 30.4mm seatpost as well.
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Originally Posted by invisiblehand
According to Yan, all of the Minis now have 27.2 posts.
Anybody have an idea of how thick the wall needs to be for a stem post?
Anybody have an idea of how thick the wall needs to be for a stem post?
Thanks,
Yan
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Originally Posted by downtube
The mini's have a 30.4mm post. This is about the third time ( on bikeforums ) I have mixed up seat post sizes. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks,
Yan
Thanks,
Yan
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Originally Posted by MequonJim
This is the kind of thing that should be stated on your website. It would take less time to build a robust fact filled website with lots of specifications, than to answer tons of emails and posts asking questions. That is my opinion.
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I would like to add my support for a page on the DT website that shows bike specifications.
I think one of the main attractions of the DTs is that they're built on standard parts. Therefore, they are appealing to self-maintenance types of owners. I think the nature of this BF forums bears this point out. Making a one-time effort to post these specs would be hugely helpful to us, both in a pre-sales and post-sales sense.
Thanks for considering this suggestion.
I think one of the main attractions of the DTs is that they're built on standard parts. Therefore, they are appealing to self-maintenance types of owners. I think the nature of this BF forums bears this point out. Making a one-time effort to post these specs would be hugely helpful to us, both in a pre-sales and post-sales sense.
Thanks for considering this suggestion.
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Originally Posted by SesameCrunch
I would like to add my support for a page on the DT website that shows bike specifications.
I think one of the main attractions of the DTs is that they're built on standard parts. Therefore, they are appealing to self-maintenance types of owners. I think the nature of this BF forums bears this point out. Making a one-time effort to post these specs would be hugely helpful to us, both in a pre-sales and post-sales sense.
Thanks for considering this suggestion.
I think one of the main attractions of the DTs is that they're built on standard parts. Therefore, they are appealing to self-maintenance types of owners. I think the nature of this BF forums bears this point out. Making a one-time effort to post these specs would be hugely helpful to us, both in a pre-sales and post-sales sense.
Thanks for considering this suggestion.
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Originally Posted by JosephLMonti
I second that motion
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Originally Posted by rhm
Third!
FYI I have been making daily changes to the website for about 2 weeks.
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Got the Mini this evening. Everything looks good so far. The shifting of the SA-8 is a little fuzzy compared with a derailer drivetrain. The bike itself fits better than I expected; but I definitely need a little more saddle height for a longer ride.
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Besides a bike specs page, Yan, I would suggest better bike photos. The ones on your site looks like someone with a point and shoot snapped them off in their garage against a white sheet. This sort of thing does not generate potential customer confidence and detracts from the reported excellent bike performance. Pictures need to do the product justice.
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Originally Posted by jur
Besides a bike specs page, Yan, I would suggest better bike photos. The ones on your site looks like someone with a point and shoot snapped them off in their garage against a white sheet. This sort of thing does not generate potential customer confidence and detracts from the reported excellent bike performance. Pictures need to do the product justice.
www.gimp.org
This will let you remove the white background and insert whatever background you want for the photos. However there is a learning curve with this program, so you may be better off paying someone familiar with that program or Adobe Photoshop to do this task.
You can use a consumer digital camera and have professional results in the right conditions. I took almost all of the photos at this site:
https://www.metalcollectibles.com/index.htm
With a consumer camera (Canon A95) I used the Gimp to remove many of the backgrounds from the Bronze Sculptures and Wall Hangings and inserted the website background instead.
It can look OK if it is done right. Even on a shoestring budget.
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Has anyone here ever flipped the chainring to inside of the spider? That is, installed the chainring on the "inner" instead of the "outer"? Seems to me that the chainline would be improved by 5 mm; the typical distance between the inner and outer chainrings.
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I'm glad to see all of you getting your Mini's and planning cool mods and upgrades. I'm sure I'm going to get some new ideas for round two on mine.
So far I've done the following to mine:
Big Apple tires
Brooks B67
Dahon adjustable stem
Topeak seatpost rack with trunk bag
Caradice roll seat bag
Mini bar ends
Koolstop Mountain brake pads
Shimano UN53 bottom bracket
So far I've done the following to mine:
Big Apple tires
Brooks B67
Dahon adjustable stem
Topeak seatpost rack with trunk bag
Caradice roll seat bag
Mini bar ends
Koolstop Mountain brake pads
Shimano UN53 bottom bracket
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Polaris,
Did you swap in the Dahon stem to get more height? If so, how much extra did you get?
Trying to figure out the easiest way to get a higher handlebar height - Dahon stem or DT extension stem.
Did you swap in the Dahon stem to get more height? If so, how much extra did you get?
Trying to figure out the easiest way to get a higher handlebar height - Dahon stem or DT extension stem.
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Originally Posted by dmnobrien
Polaris,
Did you swap in the Dahon stem to get more height? If so, how much extra did you get?
Trying to figure out the easiest way to get a higher handlebar height - Dahon stem or DT extension stem.
Did you swap in the Dahon stem to get more height? If so, how much extra did you get?
Trying to figure out the easiest way to get a higher handlebar height - Dahon stem or DT extension stem.
You get about 4 inches of height. You can also rotate the bars for more or less reach.
Here's a picture with the Mini and riser bars next to my VIIIH with the stem raised about 1.5" above the minimum.
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Originally Posted by invisiblehand
Has anyone here ever flipped the chainring to inside of the spider? That is, installed the chainring on the "inner" instead of the "outer"? Seems to me that the chainline would be improved by 5 mm; the typical distance between the inner and outer chainrings.
-G