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Old 08-27-07, 03:22 AM
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Thanks for those photos - that's PORN
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Originally Posted by EvilV
What do you reckon to that frame construction Jur? It looks kind of stiff and quirky. I'm really drawn to it myself. I'm also interested in the leading link suspension idea.... As long as the bearings are well lubed and unworn - deadly otherwise.
I like the frame, it grows on you... When I saw it for the 1st time just a short while ago, I wondered what all the fuss was about. Since then I have learned a bit of the Moultons and have lost several older ones on ebay. My commitment is not there yet.

I doubt that I'll ever have a New Series. It would have to be a fluke like some irate wife selling hubby's prize bike for a dollar while he is philandering overseas.
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Originally Posted by jur
I like the frame, it grows on you... When I saw it for the 1st time just a short while ago, I wondered what all the fuss was about. Since then I have learned a bit of the Moultons and have lost several older ones on ebay. My commitment is not there yet.

I doubt that I'll ever have a New Series. It would have to be a fluke like some irate wife selling hubby's prize bike for a dollar while he is philandering overseas.
Ha ha ha - that would be a severe punishment for such a crime.... Torture out of all proportion, but it would be a stroke of luck for the buyer.
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Or an irate hubby selling the wife's Moulton for a dollar. That's double the odds.
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Originally Posted by EvilV
I found some VERY detailed photos on the web of the TSR Pashley / Moultons. They look absolutely beautifully made. Definately worth a look. I'm very tempted by them.

https://www.moulton-forum.de/viewtopic.php?t=212
They look great. I did not realize that the Pashley bikes were handmade.

Santa Fe Bikes used to get framesets from Pashley and then build the bike up from there. Can you do the same on the other side of the Atlantic?

One complaint about the Moulton is that only narrow tires can fit (I recall that the fork is narrow; but I am sure that others would be able to clarify). Perhaps you can get the Pashley version with v-brakes and either put on cantilever brakes/travel agents and still put on drop bars.

Then again, I have no idea whether you prefer drop bars. So it may not matter to you.

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There are a number of conversions that can be done with 25.4/22 bars, which is more cost-effective. Nitto and Soma make a bullhorn and moustach bar respectively.
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They look great. I did not realize that the Pashley bikes were handmade.

Santa Fe Bikes used to get framesets from Pashley and then build the bike up from there. Can you do the same on the other side of the Atlantic?

One complaint about the Moulton is that only narrow tires can fit (I recall that the fork is narrow; but I am sure that others would be able to clarify). Perhaps you can get the Pashley version with v-brakes and either put on cantilever brakes/travel agents and still put on drop bars.

Then again, I have no idea whether you prefer drop bars. So it may not matter to you.

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In general I need a flat style of bar. I have poor vision in my right eye and since we drive on the left here, I need to be able to look over my right shoulder and see what's behind me with my left eye which has perfect vision. This means my head needs to get right around. I find this VERY troubling with drop bars. I've never been more comfortable in cycling than with the upright style of my current folder. Of course when I have twenty miles to go into a strong headwind, I feel very pi**es off indeed.
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Has anyone had experience of the Pashley Moulton bikes? They have 20 inch wheels it seems.
I did this year's Paris-Brest-Paris on a TSR30, it rode very nicely.
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Some achievement that. How long did it take you? You must have felt half dead after it.

Since I posted that, I've bought a TSR30 myself. Very nice indeed. Very fast and handles very well.

I'm going to write a review when I've put some decent miles on it and when I have more time. I've done 213 miles on it so far, so I'll have to get down and write something soon. Don't regret the purchase at all, do you?
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The Mrs just bought a TSR30.. Still waiting for it to be delivered, but I already feel a little jealous ;-) Ah well, she has 3 bikes just like me now, so I guess it's only fair
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https://www.tsr.uk.com/features/

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Some achievement that. How long did it take you? You must have felt half dead after it.
Sub 80 hours but time isn't really the point...
My first 2 PBPs were more fun.
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Well I can imagine that such a ride would be a lot more challenge than 'fun'. I once rode 375 miles in four days and that was hard enough. I was about forty then, and since its a good while ago, I don't ride those kind of distances. Now I have a really nice easy bike, I might think of it again though.
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PBP was dry in '99 and '03 and the riding was wonderful. The weather was pretty miserable this time (a typical English summer...) which took a lot of the fun out of it.

I've done over 2400km on it over the last month, half on PBP and half cycletouring in Normandy, and I'm going to miss it. Mrs LWaB gets the bike in a few days, now that it has been nicely 'run in'.
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Great bike isn't it, and I bet you enjoyed running it in. Did you keep the stelvio tyres? I took them off in 20 miles because of a rash of punctures. They were about one mile an hour faster with 160 watts than the marathons I put on instead.
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Haven't had a flat yet, despite some French Sustrans-style paths and English canal towpaths and hedge flailing.
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is the tsr headset 1" or 1 1/4"? I know of a couple of new r20 buyers that would love to get some higher end susp-forks and wander if a pair of pashley/moulton forks might be a viable retrofit item?
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Originally Posted by EvilV
Great bike isn't it, and I bet you enjoyed running it in. Did you keep the stelvio tyres? I took them off in 20 miles because of a rash of punctures. They were about one mile an hour faster with 160 watts than the marathons I put on instead.
Wow, that's a substantial difference. But 20 miles isn't much. I'm curious b/c I was getting tons of flats on my Scorchers. I switched to a Stelvio on the front (120psi) and a Brompton Green on the back (100psi ran at 110). I think I'm moving about a mile an hour slower (by average speed), but don't have a power meter.

Does anyone else have an objective idea of the relative differnce between tires? Is it that much? Not a big deal, but I occasionally like group rides that require that I don't get dropped!
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Originally Posted by LittlePixel
is the tsr headset 1" or 1 1/4"? I know of a couple of new r20 buyers that would love to get some higher end susp-forks and wander if a pair of pashley/moulton forks might be a viable retrofit item?
I can't really asnwer this with any authority. You could phone pashleys factory. I searched a bt on google. The headset is a Miche Team threadless one. I found a reference on a non-TSR site which described a Miche Team headset as 1", but that doesn't mean that they don't do t in other sizes. I reckon the best thing would be to talk to Pashleys about it. The leading link suspension fork is very unusual and gives great road holding on rough ground. I have mine set pretty hard. They have adjustable spring and adjustable damping.

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Originally Posted by pm124
Wow, that's a substantial difference. But 20 miles isn't much. I'm curious b/c I was getting tons of flats on my Scorchers. I switched to a Stelvio on the front (120psi) and a Brompton Green on the back (100psi ran at 110). I think I'm moving about a mile an hour slower (by average speed), but don't have a power meter.

Does anyone else have an objective idea of the relative differnce between tires? Is it that much? Not a big deal, but I occasionally like group rides that require that I don't get dropped!

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Haven't had a flat yet, despite some French Sustrans-style paths and English canal towpaths and hedge flailing.

It's funny - you meet people who hate stelvios for the punctures they get, and you meet others who swear by them and have ridden half a million miles without a single flat. Mine were at about 95 psi, and now i'm wondering if that was what the trouble was. I got three punctures in quick succession and after a seven mile walk pushing the bike with a flat front tyre, the tube exploded in the night when I'd repaired it again and pumped it up. The tread had begun to seperate. I was just disgusted and abandoned my trip when I couldn't buy any marathons in 406. I came home and bought a pair from my LBS and he fitted them as a trial, because the clearance is VERY marginal under the brakes. I can JUST get away with the 40x406. the recommended tyre is 28x406. I'm happy though, because I think I won't be let down by flat tyres - for me there's very little worse than getting stuck somewhere in the middle of nowhere.

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Originally Posted by LittlePixel
is the tsr headset 1" or 1 1/4"?
1" on the TSR.
1 1/4" is very rare nowadays, 1 1/8" is most common, some are trying to get a 1 1/2" standard started.
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