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Old 07-25-08, 06:39 AM
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Video Seminar by Andrew 'Brompton' Ritchey

Nice seminar given by Andrew at the iFest conference in Barcelona:
https://www.infonomia.com/tv/video.php?video=131
It's a bit 'business'y but lots of interest there too.

He's so humble! The classic British self depricator...
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argh! i want a brompton now
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Originally Posted by LittlePixel
He's so humble! The classic British self depricator...
Aah, he is just sweet
I wonder if he was very nervous - he hesitated as if he was short of breath sometimes.

PS:Hi LittlePixel, thanks for your pm and glad that everything arrived at your home
So I am looking forward for my parcel to come also
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yep he sure did seem nervous
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Watching the video made me understand why the company is run the way it is. Very much a reflection of his personality. Very engineering driven, not a big marketing machine.

He seems like a really down-to-earth person.
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I think this video is a good example of why I would never buy a 'clone' bike
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I think this video is a good example of why I would never buy a 'clone' bike
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sweet guy not making any money from his £600 bikes that dominate the market... and of course the cloners we know them not to be proper English gents
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I reconcile the fact I have a Merc frame (for lightness) by knowing I bought the full Ti Kit from Brompton along with other parts that are definitely greater in cost than buying one of their base models, so in theory it's a win-win situation, at least in my specific case...
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Very interesting talk from a very interesting guy. I don't agree with some of the design choices Brompton make- I don't get the odd gearing stuff- but they're well made and the fold's genius. His passion- which clearly rubs off on both his workforce and his customers- is a joy to behold.
I think Dr David Hon would show much the same enthusiasm if he ever did a talk like this- Dahon might be a much bigger company in global terms, but in the beginning it certainly wasn't much different, taking a risk and going out on a limb. And it's certainly good that we've got firms competing like this to make better and better products.
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I understand a bit now why the Brommie has the archaic gearing it has. The gearing is a 30-year-old relic, so to speak.
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I wonder who were the lucky ones to get the first 30 bikes he made! ;-) Does anyone know if people are still riding them? I would love to have a hand made bike from Mr. Ritchie himself! Those bikes are probably worth a fortune today.

I've only owned Dahon folders but the Brompton is without a doubt, the most comfortable 16 inch wheel folder I've ever ridden.
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Has anyone located a version of this broadcast in *.wmv or *.avi ...etc that can be downloaded? I would like to add it to my archive. It's a very inspiring presentation.
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If you want to download it, there are plenty of tools that can download Flash video (eg from YouTube or this very presentation) and save it...on my Mac, I use TubeTV.
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Originally Posted by jur
I understand a bit now why the Brommie has the archaic gearing it has. The gearing is a 30-year-old relic, so to speak.
Wrong the 6 speed is highly efficient, I so disagree. It's only the gear shifters that are relics.
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Originally Posted by jur
I understand a bit now why the Brommie has the archaic gearing it has. The gearing is a 30-year-old relic, so to speak.
What age of relic are you? Don't start railling against Brompton, you don't stand a chance, you're up against 'Andrew and the Bromptonauts'
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Originally Posted by nigelme
What age of relic are you? Don't start railling against Brompton, you don't stand a chance, you're up against 'Andrew and the Bromptonauts'

I'm not just a Brompton freak lol that's for sure with 2 other folders also. But, as a commute-and-go bike, it's the best there is in my opinion. Perhaps it's not a relic but a product that was ahead of its time in the 80's and now a product of its time.

There loads of fab folding bikes out there, each excelling in its purpose. Nevertheless, Andrew Ritchie is a modest gentleman (not an act) who has helped inspire a generation of folding bikes. I like the recognition he gave to Alex Moulton for inspiring his attempt to work with smaller wheels.

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Originally Posted by mulleady
I'm not just a Brompton freak lol that's for sure with 2 other folders also. But, as a commute-and-go bike, it's the best there is in my opinion. Perhaps it's not a relic but a product that was ahead of its time in the 80's and now a product of its time.

There loads of fab folding bikes out there, each excelling in its purpose. Nevertheless, Andrew Ritchie is a modest gentleman (not an act) who has helped inspire a generation of folding bikes. I like the recognition he gave to Alex Moulton for inspiring his attempt to work with smaller wheels.
Hear! Hear! Well said old chap.
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Originally Posted by Silverexpress
Has anyone located a version of this broadcast in *.wmv or *.avi ...etc that can be downloaded? I would like to add it to my archive. It's a very inspiring presentation.
I'm on a mac here, & use Realplayer 11, which installs a downloader that works for lots of sites. I just grabbed your sig' Youtube vid' in fact :-)

Real is probably on windows too.
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Originally Posted by nigelme
What age of relic are you? Don't start railling against Brompton, you don't stand a chance, you're up against 'Andrew and the Bromptonauts'
Actually I wasn't railing, it may have sounded like it though... it was just a comment on the fact that the Brommie uses the 3sp (that's actually a 100-year-old relic even though still in production) plus a 2sp derailer. It is a curious anachronism, regardless of the efficiency or suitability of existing setups, that a modern popular bike does not offer at least the option of a modern 8sp hub. It would increase the versatility a lot. I would have included it in my short list of the ultimate folding-touring-commuting-etc bike.

Still, I love the Brommie and want one.
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Yes the 8 speed Shimano Nexus would be the best. Pity the 8 speed Alfine hub on the Cadenza 08 is so big, it has a beautiful and quiet shift.
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The Alfine and Nexus 8 hubs are the same externally, with improvements on the Alfine innards.
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Would this work on a modified Brompton?

Would represent far more value than a Rolhoff for example. A 14 speed hub at over £700 would be wasted on a 16" wheel bike unless you wanted some sort of touring Brompton but a Shimano Alpine hub would be perfect.
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Originally Posted by mulleady
Would this work on a modified Brompton?
Hi mulleady
Juliane Neuss (makes the "brekki" the brompton recumbent) does modifications with the Nexus 8speed. She already started that modifications with the 7 speed. The rear triangle has to be bent/widened for the hub and it seems necessary to use special tools. Her website is in german only, and written only about 7speed there. I hope she will change that soon but so, yes it works.
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Pictures of early prototype Bromptons here: I think the early production run of 30 (+60) was like the last one with the steep angle to the frame instead of the now familliar curve.


Prototype two; 1975.

Prototype three, 1975.

Prototype five

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