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cpg 07-23-13 03:20 PM

That looks like a good way to die :D

darukhan 07-24-13 12:25 PM

Another fun Birdy pic I found.... this one was posted on the Riese und Müller Facebook page back in February.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...52435443_n.jpg

CenturionIM 07-26-13 10:39 AM

I am in the US. How/where can I buy newer model of XL/LT? Apparently the ones on www.birdybike.com are 2006 models, which seem to have various issues newer makes has fixed.

Edit: Bfold also carries Birdy but it only comes with Alvio or Carepso.

BruceMetras 07-26-13 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by CenturionIM (Post 15891353)
I am in the US. How/where can I buy newer model of XL/LT? Apparently the ones on www.birdybike.com are 2006 models, which seem to have various issues newer makes has fixed.

Edit: Bfold also carries Birdy but it only comes with Alvio or Carepso.

Did you talk with Anja at BirdyBike? I'm sure she can address your concerns.. what model Birdy are you looking for? the Capreo system is a good one for small wheeled bikes looking to get good top end..

CenturionIM 07-27-13 09:01 AM

anja got back to me saying their models are all 2013 so I guess problem solved. Can someone verify that from their pics? the only reason I ask is this post from page one of this thread:


Originally Posted by pm124 (Post 7613972)
You are probably looking here: http://www.birdybike.com/Models/models.html

While these folks have done some nice things in the past, I'm very unclear about their ethics. They are one of the "authorized" US distributors. All of the bikes they sell are 2006 models. The problem is that the 2006 models went for as little as $800 in 2006. Even if they are getting the bikes from Europe and not Taiwan, the rise of the Euro could not account for the difference. You are better off buying the 2008 models off of eBay for a tiny fraction of the price from a similarly disreputable drop and ship supplier. That is the sad state of affairs of the Birdy distribution in the USA.


BruceMetras 07-27-13 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by CenturionIM (Post 15894011)
anja got back to me saying their models are all 2013 so I guess problem solved. Can someone verify that from their pics? the only reason I ask is this post from page one of this thread:

That post was almost 5 years ago .. I personally know Anja, and if she says what they sell now are 2013 models, then I'm sure they are..

Winfried 07-31-13 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Winfried (Post 15880523)
As for the shifter: Even with no cable engaged, it won't shift beyond 6, ie. can't reach 7-8. Maybe it's broken, although I didn't use force or heard any funny noise

Turns out it was indeed broken, although the innards don't show signs of this and I heard no cracking noise while using it. I replaced the original SL-RS41-8 with a SL-RS43-8, and learned how to adjust a derailleur in the process.

Winfried 07-31-13 07:18 AM

I'm thinking of selling my entry-level World Speed for either the Touring Disc or the Speed Disc, because I prefer disk brakes and those two models provide a wider gear ratio (8.89m and 7.99m, respectively).

I would go for the Touring because of the higher gear ratio and speeds available, which is useful when going up steep hills, but the Speed is 3kg lighter (9.9kg instead of 11.8).

Are the 24 speeds on the Touring worth the extra 3kg (and money)?

Thanks for any feedback.

bhkyte 07-31-13 08:16 AM

2 kgs not 3

yangmusa 07-31-13 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Winfried (Post 15907863)
Are the 24 speeds on the Touring worth the extra 3kg (and money)?

Really depends on what kind of riding you want to do. Going touring in all kinds of terrain - yes, definitely worth it. Mostly riding for exercise in flat to moderately hilly terrain - maybe not. Then again, I managed to do self-supported touring in the Sierra mountains with a Birdy Silver 9 speed (Capreo) - very occasionally had to walk, but mostly I thought the gear range was an excellent compromise.

CenturionIM 07-31-13 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Winfried (Post 15907863)
I'm thinking of selling my entry-level World Speed for either the Touring Disc or the Speed Disc, because I prefer disk brakes and those two models provide a wider gear ratio (8.89m and 7.99m, respectively).

I would go for the Touring because of the higher gear ratio and speeds available, which is useful when going up steep hills, but the Speed is 3kg lighter (9.9kg instead of 11.8).

Are the 24 speeds on the Touring worth the extra 3kg (and money)?

Thanks for any feedback.

Are you buying from that German site? What kind of price can you get locally for a birdy speed (non-disc)? In the US retails seems to be around $3000:crash:

darukhan 08-02-13 01:55 PM

I'm the second owner of a Birdy yellow and I have some questions that I can't seem to clearly find answers to online, so I hope you Birdy pundits can school me on this!

1) Was the Birdy Yellow only available in 2005?
2) I have the adjustable comfort stem... how many degrees is this stem? Is the angle 6 degrees?
3) Is the "Fixed Sport" stem (NON-adjustable) still available anywhere?

darukhan 08-02-13 01:56 PM

Oh... by the way, I really need to get some good pics of my Birdy this weekend, as I have been modifying it over the past few months.

One notable modification....
I have completely modified the stem hinge because the holes where the hinge pins were seated had become worn out and "stretched" from years of abuse due to what appeared to be an improperly adjusted hing bolt! My stem was incredibly wobbly due to the hinge pins being able to "wiggle" in the holes a bit! Kind of scary when riding at times! I'll get detailed pics of my stock hinge reconstruction/modifications. It's VERY stable now and easier to fold too!

Winfried 08-03-13 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by yangmusa (Post 15908108)
Really depends on what kind of riding you want to do. Going touring in all kinds of terrain - yes, definitely worth it. Mostly riding for exercise in flat to moderately hilly terrain - maybe not. Then again, I managed to do self-supported touring in the Sierra mountains with a Birdy Silver 9 speed (Capreo) - very occasionally had to walk, but mostly I thought the gear range was an excellent compromise.

Apparently, the Shimano Capreo adds a 34T: Can I just replace the 8 speed cassette on my World Speed with an 8-speed Capreo just to replace the last sprocket from 30 to 34, or can I replace the whole cassette with that 9-speed Capreo?


Originally Posted by CenturionIM (Post 15910105)
Are you buying from that German site? What kind of price can you get locally for a birdy speed (non-disc)? In the US retails seems to be around $3000:crash:

Same price from the local retailer for a Speed V-brakes: €2.250 -> $3.000.

As an alternative to selling my World Speed and buying a (Touring | Speed) disc, what simple and recommended changes could I make to the gearing system, and it is possible to replace the V-brakes with discs?

yangmusa 08-03-13 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Winfried (Post 15921863)
Apparently, the Shimano Capreo adds a 34T: Can I just replace the 8 speed cassette on my World Speed with an 8-speed Capreo just to replace the last sprocket from 30 to 34, or can I replace the whole cassette with that 9-speed Capreo?

I don't believe you can put a Capreo cassette on your existing hub. Because the Capreo 9-tooth cog is so small, they turned that smallest cog into the lock ring. The hub is correspondingly shorter than the regular hub.

One gearing option is to fit a double or triple crank up front. Thor USA sells the necessary adapter: http://www.thorusa.com/accessories/special.htm

decyph3r 08-09-13 02:18 AM

Has anyone here had any experience in pushing their Birdy to the limit? Like going for a semi-heavy off-riding? or like a wheelie that Stijn Deferm did, or some crazy snow-biking? Share us your setup/upgrades/maintenance to keep your bikes still in full-working order. I know in Japan, which I think the Birdy capital, got some "cool" setups for cosmetics only. But I haven't seen a full-geared heavy-duty Birdy bike setup.

Winfried 08-12-13 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by yangmusa (Post 15921909)
One gearing option is to fit a double or triple crank up front. Thor USA sells the necessary adapter: http://www.thorusa.com/accessories/special.htm

Thanks for the tip.

darukhan 08-18-13 02:15 AM


Originally Posted by darukhan (Post 15918535)
I'm the second owner of a Birdy yellow and I have some questions that I can't seem to clearly find answers to online, so I hope you Birdy pundits can school me on this!

1) Was the Birdy Yellow only available in 2005?
2) I have the adjustable comfort stem... how many degrees is this stem? Is the angle 6 degrees?
3) Is the "Fixed Sport" stem (NON-adjustable) still available anywhere?

Does anyone have any info relate to my questions quoted above?

decyph3r 08-19-13 02:05 PM

Is this doable on a birdy or not advisable?


fietsbob 08-19-13 02:46 PM

How's your Bunny Hop Skills?

decyph3r 08-20-13 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 15977900)
How's your Bunny Hop Skills?

Hmmm... Was BMXing 15 years ago, planning to hop on a bike again, and Birdy got my attention. Will mainly use it for commuting. Just curious if it can handle that kind of riding: (standing/bunny hop) just like on the vid. I won't overdo it though, will do it occasionally. Promise... :D

fietsbob 08-20-13 08:44 AM

Well a film shoot is short term use .. YMMV, long term as regular treatment, IDK .

There was a Stunt Video, using a Brompton.. a couple months ago, reposted a few times ..

decyph3r 08-22-13 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 15980346)
Well a film shoot is short term use .. YMMV, long term as regular treatment, IDK .

There was a Stunt Video, using a Brompton.. a couple months ago, reposted a few times ..

Yeah, saw that Brompton crazy stunts. I guess the question is, will a Birdy withstand my "occasional" style of riding (standing/small bunny hop).

What kind of additional setup needed to make it achievable? When I say occasional, that would be like once every 20-30 rides.

fietsbob 08-22-13 07:54 AM

Easy question to ask .. design your own study to answer it , now..

decyph3r 08-22-13 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 15987347)
Easy question to ask .. design your own study to answer it , now..

Well, that's not really helpful isn't it?


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