Still liking it at that price.. Sweet!! ... was the extra 3 bills for customs into US .. or some mystery charge ? Which auction site?

What do you think you the after market dampers/shocks fitted? Worth laying any cash out for?
Thanks

Hi Birdy fans... Anyone have an idea where I might be able to test ride a Birdy in the SF Bay Area? I'm thinking of adding to the stable, and it will either be a Birdy, a Brompton or another BF. Thanks.

There are no official dealers (that I'm aware of). But Warm Planet Bikes (on Market St in SF, between 6th and 7th) used to be a dealer and has had leftover stock sitting around for years. I haven't been in the store for a while though, so you should call them and double check before going!

Someone is selling a Birdy Touring (ie. with the SRAM DD3-24) and Magura hydraulic brakes.

Before giving it a try, I'd like to know what you guys think about those two features. Since this bike will mostly be used for touring, I'm concerned about the reliability + drag of the IGH, and of using hydraulic brakes on a folding bike.

As an alternative, I could get the 2015 City and replace its Shimano Nexus 8 IGH with an an Alfine 11 for a wider development range.

Thank you.

Dual drive is a good set up. Instant gross shifts at lights etc. You will struggle to notice the drag. The only thing is I don't thing you get the full benefit from a birdie as they are unstable to steer at really high speeds so the upper ratios may not get used.
I run three 8 speed birdies and find enough range for offroad use. However, one of the benifiet of dual drive is shifting with either hand in to other gears at lights and during braaking.

Thanks for the tip. I've been to Warm Planet before. I'll check in with them.

Thanks for the input.

To make an informed choice, I'll ask a dealer about replacing the 8-speed Shimano Nexus Premium IGH with an Alfine 11 on a 2015 City.

Provided it's possible, the choice would then be between a second-hand 2013 Birdy Touring with the 24-speed Dual Drive and Magura hydraulic rim brakes (1.76 - 8.89 m), or a 2015 City with an Alfine 11 IGH and Shimano hydraulic disk brakes (2.3 - 9.9m).

Congrats on the new Birdy (BD-1).:thumb: That's a great price, even with shipping/handling. I've noticed a number of the monocoque versions turning up on the auctions here recently, maybe due to the upcoming (minor) model change.

Do you happen to know the manufacturer of the trolley accessory? I've only seen two types available, and both are two-wheel types, not the four-wheeled kind on yours.

Which auction are there in Japan that are reliable and accept shipping overseas?

I'm not suprised that Japanese bike shops won't accept orders from overseas, though.

The site is easyauctionjapan. The bumps in price were for VAT(dealer seller), domestic shipping between seller and EAJ, and shipping to the US(unknown 'till they get ready to ship). As it was a buy it now from a dealer, all of that should have been disclosed in their calculator.

Haven't had a chance to really try it out yet. A few qick laps around our loop left the impression it was less 'bouncy'. Swapped the handlepost with the silver Birdy, as it had the adjustable version with the ahead stem. Wife's 5', so the shorter post will work better for her. One thing led to another and will post later the mods I've been doing.

The rack is by Nitto, tho have seen a couple versions listed by various Japanese dealers in the past.

Do a search for Japanese auction sites and several will come up. Have only tried the EAJ site, so not sure how they differ.

Need help in obtaining a part. I need a chainguard for my older Birdy Red. Any suggestions on where I can buy one? I am in the US.

Jim

Looks like they have them here.
Birdy chain guard black

Thanks.
Jim

This is also four ezwheels version.

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I don't really get the four wheeled rack on a birdie. My 2 wheeled rack sits loower on the floor as a smaller package and you use the front rack as a pulling handle like a wheeled suitcase. That seems better to me. However, I wheel my mezzo on one wheel, there is room for different aproaches.

2 ezwheels retractable rack will be like this

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Those 2 wheeled things don't seem to be actual racks, but an accessory to let you wheel the bike around as mentioned and nothing more. I can see no way to use them to carry luggage or other items.

The four wheeled racks are just that. They serve a dual purpose, carrying cargo and letting you wheel the bike while folded. Not only do they act as a kickstand, you can also complete the fold without hoisting the bike.

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Hello, can someone inform me whether the OLD for a cassette/derailleur Birdy is 130mm or 135mm?

Thanks!

130mm in my classic but i don't know for the monocoque version.

My Birdy with monocoque frame had 135mm OLD. But that was 7 years ago and they might have changed.

Thanks for your replies marxmini & jur. I have a Monocoque 135mm with Nexus hub but was wondering if the Monocoques with cassettes are 130mm. Anyone know if Monocoques only come in 135mm?

Thanks

I believe they are all the same frame.

Oops, I now see that your Monocoque was a cassette/derailleur Birdy so I think it's clear that it only comes in 135mm. Thanks for the help. Thanks also bhkyte.

New designs on Birdy Monocoque by Michael Lin

Let's start with Handlebar and stem
1. 3D forge upper inner tube of Stem.
2. Change 2 bolts into 4 bolts system of handle bar clamping mechanism.
3. Adding offset on the clamp area of upper inner tube provide 2 position.
4. extra hole provide for easier to change of offset of upper inner tube.
5. Change handle bar size from 25.4mm OD to 31.8mm OD.
6. special opposite quick release clamp specific for adjust stem.
7. Special reaming inside of upper stem, so upper inner tube can go deeper to reduce folding size
8. 3D forge upper outer stem with folding hinge together.
9. Provide 2 different angle of upper outer stem (21° and 10°)
10. 3D forge lower stem.
11. change the folding hing shape.
12. change the screw type of folding hinge lever.
13. folding hing inside machine in different way.
14. Adding second lock for folding mechanism.
Front fork
1. new I fork clamp design
2. new I fork tube design into diamond shape.
3. special diamond shape bending
4. new I fork pivot design
5. 6mm hole under pivot of I fork each side for dynamo light cable.
6. change the screws of clamp into counter sunk type
7. pivot screw change from steel to Alloy 7005
8. new forging front drop out with integrate pivot together
9. new hydroform tube to achieve position of spring located.
10. reduce L fork from 10 parts welding together to 3 parts welding
11. New narrow L fork design, so folding size can get smaller.
12. new disc cable arrangement
13. extra cable hole bending with angle for disc brake cable
14. front wheel folding stopper nut change
15. integrate front L fork plastic protector
Front frame
1. head tube length change
2. semi-integrated head set
3. head angle change
4. cable hole behind head tube change
5. Forge BB has new cut out. it allowed bigger space for double chain ring.
6. offset 2mm of pivot to the left side
7. relocated the cable hole of right side frame
8. extra hole for install rear rack on 12 o'clock position of set tube top
9. new refuel grease valve behind pivot
10. special cut out of bb specific for 20" wheel set
11. new design of PU receiver
12. add new C type tube inside pivot for grease
13. seat tube angle change
14. lower bb position from 298mm to 279mm
15. Chain line adjust from 53mm to 51mm to provide better shifting function.

Rear swing arm
1. Right side V stay design change and open need forge tooling.
2. Left side V stay design change and open new forge tooling.
3. Open new hydroform tube for swing arm.
4. New design left side drop out together with disc brake mount with new forge tooling.
5. new design right side drop out with new forge tooling.
6. New drop out hanger with counterclockwise 10° to enhance shifting and folding size.
7. New angle adjust rear-stay angle relate to center line to improve folding size.
8. New integrate shift cable arrangement inside swing arm.
9. New integrate brake cable arrangement inside swing arm.
10. Semi-hidden welding method for drop out both right and left side.
11. New position of swing arm bridge for adjustment.
12. New protect nut at right side swing arm dropout for folding.
13. New 5mm hole for different Rohloff vision hub fitting together with fender.
14. New stainless chain protector.
15. New chain tensioner.
16. New position of fish screw to allow cable better arrangement.
17. Adding new flexible guide pipe (CC401-2) to prevent cable jam during folding and unfolding.
18. Hydroform a pocket at right side rear-stay for enhance folding.
Accessories
1. New design of rear rack
2. New design of front rack with integrated rear small wheel for rolling function.
3. New design of saddle with bumper underneath for shoulder protect.
4. New fender set design.
5. New top cover for fender stay protect.
6. New hard case with standard 29" size. Easy for air flight check in.
7. New chain ring protector made by alloy instead of plastic.
Geometry change
1. Front triangle monocoque frame cutting in different way.
2. Front triangle frame longer than old modal.
3. Front fork all angle adjustments, so hand free ride without problem
Those 72 points as you can find from New Birdy, but it is not all. There are more things we did enhance of productions process and engineering as you can not see or find out from looking. That part I call DNA CHANGES.

It will still never be as good as a Brompton!! Untill it changes it's name to Brompton. Lol

I have heard it now folds a tad smaller? Any comparison photos?

Ha, don't say that in Birdy thread :rolleyes:

It is said to be 15% smaller, can easily fit in new reach luggage without removing the handlebar.

Default all disk brakes, hidden headset, build in PC chain tensioner, bigger cockpit ...

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