My Dahon Vitesse hot rod.
go to post 10 to see what you need to do it yourself.
from pretty much stock, the only change was the rack. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...er/dahon02.jpg to tiagra outboard BB cranks and nitto rando drop bars used problem solvers travel agents instead of V-drop levers. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon1up05.jpg minor update with R600 cranks and bebop pedals http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon2up01.jpg minor update again with slight hacksaw action to the stem. only 6cm lopped off. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon2up08.jpg and probably the most interesting update, for now, 10sp veloce lever actuating the dahon neos RD at 7sp with a minor cable adjustment, aka "b-routing". almost works flawlessly. indexes 6 cogs correctly, and the last cog needs the 8th click from the lever to work. what's odd is the dahon RD is a low normal so it takes some relearning to shift in the correct direction. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon3up02.jpg http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon3up03.jpg right now I've ordered a speed FD hanger, vitesse RD and 38T inner ring to try and get this to a double setup. also on the list of things to do is building up an ultegra or 105 hub/CR18 rear wheel so I can put a 9sp cassette on it. final product, minus the new rear wheel http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...dahon5up08.jpg |
CMIIW, I think the aluminium (Mu, Vitesse) and steel (Boardwalk, Speed) frames have different seat tube OD and hence different sized FD hangers.
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You have done well young padwan... :)
I can't wait to see what you do with the new Twenty. |
Originally Posted by joseff
(Post 8973248)
CMIIW, I think the aluminium (Mu, Vitesse) and steel (Boardwalk, Speed) frames have different seat tube OD and hence different sized FD hangers.
Dahons use 34mm seatposts with a shim to protect the frame from wearing out at the seatpost clamp. hopefully the FD hanger will fit the seat tube which is 40.1mm OD. I'll find out soon enough since I have one on order. I'll be sure to give the clamp diameter before attaching it to the frame. no fun without a little pioneering :) |
just to tell you, the speed FD hanger from thorusa will work with the vitesse.
the ID of the band is 40mm, or basically a perfect fit for dahon seat tube. might need a 113x68mm BB for a double and 115 or 118mm for a triple. 107x68mm is too short, even with spacer for a double setup. shimano external BB is a bit short, even with the provided spacer. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...dahon5up01.jpg http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...dahon5up02.jpg http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...dahon5up03.jpg |
What's your locking strategy? I've had the bike a year without a lock but am thinking of getting one for when I have to leave the bike for a short time.
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there's two ways of doing it...
krypto long shackle will go through both wheels when folded. (home storage) regular will go through the rear wheel and seatstay decently. (outside) sometimes I even use a cable lock for the saddle. |
hi,
i ran into a problem with the front derailleur that i bought. i thought the 31.8 will fit the dahon boardwalk but it is way too small. will this adapted from thor work on my dahon boardwalk ? and do i need a braze on instead of clamp ? thanks, vic |
the one I bought was for the speed, which is 40.1mm diameter clamp.
get some calipers and measure it. |
OK, to finalize, although I'm not done yet, in case anyone wants to ask if they can do this mod...
the FD hanger provides a cable stop so you can just route the cable housing anyway you want. me, I just slinged it under. NDS arm and cup not installed because the shop gave me the wrong cup size... who mixes a 68mm cartridge BB with a 73mm cup? :( http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...dahon5up04.jpg http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...dahon5up05.jpg http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...dahon5up06.jpg http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...dahon5up07.jpg |
like it, I want to do simular with a presta lite when ££ allow.
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Cool! What kind of speeds do you now get with it compared to the original?
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well, the engine is the same, so not that different.
what's really different is the gearing range and jumps between the gears. stock dahon uses 52T chainring with 11-30 7sp cassette on 20x1.5" (40x406mm) tires
compare that to 53/39 with 11-23 9sp cassette with 40x406mm
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Another Dual Crank Upgrade albeit to a 2007 Dahon Speed P8
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I found this thread recently and thought I'd throw in my version of a dual crank upgrade, albeit to a Dahon 2007 Speed P8.
As you might be able to see from the photo, I added a $34.95 Sugino XD (triple) Tandem RH Rear 170mm Arm, sized for a 116mm bottom bracket, purchased from Amazon.com (I already owned the non-drive side arm); a $3.95 (no, that's not a misprint) 68 x 116mm square taper BB from Cambriabike.com, to replace the Dahon stock 60 x 103 bottom bracket; a 32t and a 48t Vuelta chain ring purchased from Amazon.com and mounted as the inner and middle chain rings on the triple Sugino crank; a Sram MRX Comp Shifter, Microfriction Front, Grip/Twist from Bicyclesupply.com for $11.69 (free shipping) to control the front derailleur (yes, it's made for a triple crank but it can shift only as far the 2nd or middle chain ring when adjusted properly); matching Jagwire cable housing and inner wire, also from Amazon.com, to connect the front derailleur the new left-side Sram shifter; and a Shimano Sora 9-speed Double Road Bicycle Front Derailleur - FD-3400, also from Amazon.com. I bought the front derailleur mount reluctantly from Thor after trying first to source it from another seller (I didn't need to use the 3mm BB spacer that comes with the mount). For those of you who are leery of using a $3.95 bottom bracket, Amazon.com sells an Origin8/Token Alloy Cartridge Bottom Bracket - 68 x 116 for about $33.00. Oh yeah, I also added a handlebar from Nashbar.com that has a slight rise. The rear rack is a Bike Friday cro-moly fold-up rack modified to fit the Speed P8 (simply shorten the length of the flat stock that connects the rack to the seat stay braze-ons and drill new holes to fit). The wheels were rebuilt by Gaerlan.com to accommodate the additional weight of two Ortlieb panniers and a trunk bag. The rear derailleur is stock 2007 Dahon. The front rack is Dahon. |
To the OP: Is there a trick to getting the bike to shift from the big to the small chainring without the chain sagging? I put an mtb triple on the front of my Dahon Speed D7. I only need to be able to shift from the big to the middle chainrings, so Thor's adapter would be fine. The problem is, when I put the chain on the middle ring by hand it sagged. The rear derailleur couldn't take up the slack so I took 6 links out of the chain and put it on the middle ring permanently.
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Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill
(Post 13714797)
The problem is, when I put the chain on the middle ring by hand it sagged. The rear derailleur couldn't take up the slack so I took 6 links out of the chain and put it on the middle ring permanently.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...honSpeedD7.jpg http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=233448 |
Originally Posted by BruceMetras
(Post 13715019)
If you exceeded the chain wrap capacity of the Neos Derailleur, you would need to mount a conventional medium or long cage r/d (depending on how much chain you needed to handle) .. an adapter plate to move the new r/d aft would be needed .. something like this could probably be made to work .
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=233448 Thor has a "Speed Conversion Hanger" adapter plate made especially for the Speed. There's no direct link to the item, so you have to scroll down the page to see it. It's near the bottom. |
Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill
(Post 13714797)
To the OP: Is there a trick to getting the bike to shift from the big to the small chainring without the chain sagging? As you can see from this pic, I put an mtb triple on the front of my Dahon Speed D7. I only need to be able to shift from the big to the middle chainrings, so Thor's adapter would be fine. The problem is, when I put the chain on the middle ring by hand it sagged. The rear derailleur couldn't take up the slack so I took 6 links out of the chain and put it on the middle ring permanently.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...honSpeedD7.jpg at least, not with the dahon neos RD. The largest teeth difference a dahon neos RD will accept is (53-39)+(23-12)=25T it sags with a 26T difference, but honestly, you would have to cross chain quite badly for the chain to sag. You will need to use a different RD entirely if you don't want any chance of chain sag with the above options. |
Originally Posted by AEO
(Post 13715621)
no, not really.
at least, not with the dahon neos RD. The largest teeth difference a dahon neos RD will accept is (53-39)+(23-12)=25T it sags with a 26T difference, but honestly, you would have to cross chain quite badly for the chain to sag. You will need to use a different RD entirely if you don't want any chance of chain sag with the above options. |
yeah, I've contemplated lower gearing myself, but apparently dahon has multiple RD hangers for their frames, which makes it a hassle to find the right one for my frame.
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Originally Posted by AEO
(Post 8971666)
go to post 10 to see what you need to do it yourself.
from pretty much stock, the only change was the rack. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...er/dahon02.jpg to tiagra outboard BB cranks and nitto rando drop bars used problem solvers travel agents instead of V-drop levers. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon1up05.jpg minor update with R600 cranks and bebop pedals http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon2up01.jpg minor update again with slight hacksaw action to the stem. only 6cm lopped off. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon2up08.jpg and probably the most interesting update, for now, 10sp veloce lever actuating the dahon neos RD at 7sp with a minor cable adjustment, aka "b-routing". almost works flawlessly. indexes 6 cogs correctly, and the last cog needs the 8th click from the lever to work. what's odd is the dahon RD is a low normal so it takes some relearning to shift in the correct direction. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon3up02.jpg http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...Dahon3up03.jpg right now I've ordered a speed FD hanger, vitesse RD and 38T inner ring to try and get this to a double setup. also on the list of things to do is building up an ultegra or 105 hub/CR18 rear wheel so I can put a 9sp cassette on it. final product, minus the new rear wheel http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...dahon5up08.jpg |
well, not everything...
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Originally Posted by AEO
(Post 13715714)
yeah, I've contemplated lower gearing myself, but apparently dahon has multiple RD hangers for their frames, which makes it a hassle to find the right one for my frame.
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FYI, Gaerlan.com carries front derailleur adapters for some Dahon over-sized seat tubes.
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Originally Posted by Jason88
(Post 13744360)
FYI, Gaerlan.com carries front derailleur adapters for some Dahon over-sized seat tubes.
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