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Old 04-27-10, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by folder fanatic View Post
You have the right to disagree with me, Mulleady-and I welcome it.

So it is for Alec. If he is a Troll, well there is much ado about nothing and much time spent here was wasted. If he is legit, that is between Bike Friday and him to iron out their difficulties as in a marriage. A wise person stays out of something like that!
Folder Fanatic, only a minority of over-zealous people are vociferous if you have an opinion that does not please them. Most people on this sub-forum are a nice group of quite diverse and eclectic characters. That would include yourself! Alec E practically went on a vendetta over a minor point of difference with BF. When some people disagreed with him, he got personal with some members and also slagged off the sub-forum as a whole. Churlish and self-righteous if you ask me.

I think Phil Cowles has drafted a very dignified and helpful response. He was under no obligation to do so but it is commendable when companies participate in forums directly related to them. It sends a clear message that BF are not remotely interested in hard-sell. I use the same approach with my students at university. It is far too difficult and overly time consuming to resolve more complex queries by email. Email is useful for short precise queries and as a supplementary form of communication. Some students think everything can be conducted by email and they are very mistaken.

I'm sure Phil welcomes constructive comments such as issues on website usability and e-fulfilment. I hope Alec E welcomes the invitation to engage in dialogue.

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Originally Posted by folder fanatic View Post
......... But I was thinking more about the time just a few months ago I was verbally attacked here about my own choices on my own bikes-the Dahons to be more accurate while I was too sick to respond. I am still leery about plucking down too much money on anything right now as the general economy has not caught up to the expectations of the politicians and the talking heads quite yet. But I still make the major purchasing decisions for my household (including houses, bikes, cars, & the like as women usually quietly do) long before anything like the Internet existed. So that form of influence is still very minimal to me. I might discuss it online if I desire. But in the end, I quietly go about my business and still do the actual purchases locally face to face or by phone if possible. Just like my new Kenmore sewing machine was bought at the local Sears store with no fanfare or online consultation as I needed it right away. Then I was able to finally complete a perfect folding bike slipcover & saddle bag (see below) on my new sewing machine right on time for a birthday. And I especially now pay no heed to unsolicited online businesses beyond simple advertising notices since that time. I live in a major metropolitan center and if my area doesn't have what I want, be it bike part or anything else, it is not simply worth my time to bother with it further 99% of the time. As for those pesky bikes, my mind has been made up & there will be a change in brands here real soon as one of them is now taking too much valuable space for a better bike for my needs and interests. Again it is strictly my call.

So it is for Alec. If he is a Troll, well there is much ado about nothing and much time spent here was wasted. If he is legit, that is between Bike Friday and him to iron out their difficulties as in a marriage. A wise person stays out of something like that!
Was that the time when you pretended to be your own family rushing to your rescue?
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Old 04-28-10, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vmaniqui View Post

my complain:
1) when folded and if i roll it as i walk longer i can feel that my arm is hurting since i have to balance it. it rolls on one wheel only. so hard to balance. i can solve this by unfolding the bike as it will only take me 5 seconds to unfold. this is where dahon beats it hands down. on my dahon mu xl i can roll it on it's two wheels so i don't need to balance it. and it seems it balances by itself when rolling. even if i roll my dahon longer i feel no pain in my arm.

here is my tikit inside our shuttle. and on the second picture you will notice that i have to seat way at the back to give my co workers enough room. on the third picture that's my tikit waiting for our lightrail train ride on the way home.
I'm glad you are enjoying your new bike. Here is a blog post I wrote about rolling the Tikit that might be useful to you. I don't find the Tikit roll tiring, but I guess I'm coming up on 3 years of being a Tikiteer...perhaps I've developed the Tikit Grip!...
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Old 04-28-10, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by EastBiker View Post
Was that the time when you pretended to be your own family rushing to your rescue?
The past is past ;-)
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What type of dropouts does the Tikit have?
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Old 04-28-10, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
What type of dropouts does the Tikit have?
- Front are 70mm.
- Rear are 135mm vertical [stock]
- they have a different custom option for modular dropouts where you can swap vertical, sliding horizontal and Rohloff specific-sliding.

If I was buying a new Tikit I'd pop for the custom dropouts so I could build my bike up in different configurations.
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Old 04-28-10, 09:23 AM
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vik,

have you changed your handlebar to a regular size (22 inches). i know that tikit's handlebar is a little bit narrow or can i just slide the brake and shifter to the center so that i can fit in my ergon grips. ergon grips are wider than the standard tikit grip.
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Originally Posted by vmaniqui View Post
vik,

have you changed your handlebar to a regular size (22 inches). i know that tikit's handlebar is a little bit narrow or can i just slide the brake and shifter to the center so that i can fit in my ergon grips. ergon grips are wider than the standard tikit grip.
I am using the stock bars. I just slid controls in slightly. That has caused no issues. Don't forget to get the Gripshift version of the Ergon Grips to work with your Tikit.
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Thank you Vik for the info, it is nice to know I can get any Tikit and turn it into a horizontal dropout.
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Old 04-29-10, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
Thank you Vik for the info, it is nice to know I can get any Tikit and turn it into a horizontal dropout.
I'm not sure if that's true. Do the current basic Model-T and hyperfold have the replaceable dropouts?
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Old 04-29-10, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
Thank you Vik for the info, it is nice to know I can get any Tikit and turn it into a horizontal dropout.
Not any Tikit....you need to order your Tikit upfront with modular dropouts. If you do that you can swap in any dropouts you like. If not you are stuck with whatever comes on your Tikit. The modular dropouts cost more and most people are never going to want anything, but vertical dropouts so BF makes the modular version an option.

My stock Hyperfold Tikit came with vertical dropouts and that's what I have to work with. Next time I order a Tikit it will come with modular dropouts so I can change the bike when I feel like a different setup.
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Originally Posted by vik View Post
Not any Tikit....you need to order your Tikit upfront with modular dropouts. If you do that you can swap in any dropouts you like.
Is this option available for other BF models as well or just the Tikit?
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Old 04-29-10, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kamtsa View Post
Is this option available for other BF models as well or just the Tikit?

this is interesting though....

https://bikefridaywalter.wordpress.co...ikit-dropouts/
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Vik, thank you for explaining that. Now I understand. It looks like the Season and one way Tikit come with this option.
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Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
Vik, thank you for explaining that. Now I understand. It looks like the Season and one way Tikit come with this option.
You can get a standard 8 speed derailleur Tikit with the modular dropouts....you'd just have to ask for them when you ordered your bike and pay the extra cost.
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Originally Posted by kamtsa View Post
Is this option available for other BF models as well or just the Tikit?
That I'm not sure of...it would make sense that the same modular dropouts could be used on the back end of a NWT, but you'd have to ask BF if they do that...?
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Originally Posted by kamtsa View Post
Is this option available for other BF models as well or just the Tikit?
I know one guy who has a NWT with a sliding Rohloff dropout. He told me he had to promise the BF salesguy that he would not fold the bike without first removing the chain. I could imagine some serious damage to the frame if he'd fold it with a taught chain.
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I have standard vertical dropouts on my NWT and with a Nexus 8 and Surly Singlenator chain tensioner I have to take the chain off the ring before I fold the bike.
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Was that the time when you pretended to be your own family rushing to your rescue?
No, it was the time my dear misguided real-as you supposed to be-was family attempted to help out by hyjacking my personal computer. My illness was quite real (you might not believe that too since you and your other dear online cohorts did not volunteer to take me to the emergency room-that is the work of people who are very much real). I assure you I am quite well & back now and a real little spitfire than ever. Perhaps you should change your name to "Vulture." My now deceased daddy many years ago took me to the desert east of us to see nature at work with the weak and the dying (see below for a nice photo of these birds at work-just like it is here sometimes with people overstepping their boundaries). Do give my regards to your other cohorts too. I do exercise my choice not to accept unsolicited bike parts from online sources as there is the actual North American Dahon HQ is nearby.

Besides my Dahons are now dropped to day-to-day possession status-can be let go at any time-so any proprietary parts now is simply not needed. The few months separation and storage of all the bikes was a trial run on what are the possessions I actually have use for in my life. The Dahons were a wonderful introduction into what folding bikes could be used in my lifestyle. They were a good choice for the circumstances and situations I needed a folding bike for at a certain point in my life. I simply grew as a person and moved on to other things & bikes. That did not mean Dahons bikes were bad or anything like that.

The tikit is not in any danger of losing fans. It is a great bike for people who need a performance bike that just happens to collapse into a smaller bundle-not the other way around.
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Originally Posted by folder fanatic View Post
No, it was the time my dear misguided real-as you supposed to be-was family attempted to help out by hyjacking my personal computer. My illness was quite real (you might not believe that too since you and your other dear online cohorts did not volunteer to take me to the emergency room-that is the work of people who are very much real). I assure you I am quite well & back now and a real little spitfire than ever. Perhaps you should change your name to "Vulture." My now deceased daddy many years ago took me to the desert east of us to see nature at work with the weak and the dying (see below for a nice photo of these birds at work-just like it is here sometimes with people overstepping their boundaries). Do give my regards to your other cohorts too. I do exercise my choice not to accept unsolicited bike parts from online sources as there is the actual North American Dahon HQ is nearby.

Besides my Dahons are now dropped to day-to-day possession status-can be let go at any time-so any proprietary parts now is simply not needed. The few months separation and storage of all the bikes was a trial run on what are the possessions I actually have use for in my life. The Dahons were a wonderful introduction into what folding bikes could be used in my lifestyle. They were a good choice for the circumstances and situations I needed a folding bike for at a certain point in my life. I simply grew as a person and moved on to other things & bikes. That did not mean Dahons bikes were bad or anything like that.

The tikit is not in any danger of losing fans. It is a great bike for people who need a performance bike that just happens to collapse into a smaller bundle-not the other way around.

Nice family pic dude!
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I have standard vertical dropouts on my NWT and with a Nexus 8 and Surly Singlenator chain tensioner I have to take the chain off the ring before I fold the bike.
I envy your clean bike ;-)

Is that a FD behind the chainring? What's purpose? Is it standard with a single chainring Tikit?

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1. It's not his tikit. It's his New World Tourist.

2. You can get a front derailleur (I presume that's what you meant by "FD") for the tikit but it has to be a braze-on, and getting the braze-on mounts require that they be ordered specially with the rear triangle (I know, I just asked today! And it ain't cheap).

3. Absolutely no idea why it's there on his NWT. Vik?
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My guess is that it's just the guide off a front derailleur which is being used to keep the chain on the front chain ring when folding..................good idea.

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My guess is that it's just the guide off a front derailleur which is being used to keep the chain on the front chain ring when folding..................good idea.

Jim
yes you're right. probably just a guide for the chain not to jump off the crank. but seeing that it is a real FD, then it's quite possible to add a FD to a BF without any adapter ?? we will all be here and staring at Vik's bike and guessing until he tells us what it really is.
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Originally Posted by feijai View Post

..... it has to be a braze-on, and getting the braze-on mounts require that they be ordered specially with the rear triangle (I know, I just asked today! And it ain't cheap).
do they have the same triangle as the TIKIT ?
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