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joey buzzard 09-13-19 02:12 AM

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I wonder if anyone has any fenders/mud guards suggestions for my Swift? Not only is winter coming where I live, but I'm travelling on this bike in Ireland end of this month. I expect it's gonna get wet, particularly as I'll be riding in a North-Westerly direction for much of the trip. Are there any off the peg fenders which work well on a swift frame?

arbee 09-13-19 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by joey buzzard (Post 21120625)
Are there any off the peg fenders which work well on a swift frame?

I bought my Swift directly from Peter, which is to say: this was some while back. He set it up for me with a few options including fenders / mud guards. What's installed is a standard ("off the peg") Planet Bike 20" / 406 product. As mentioned, this was some while back. They've stood the test of time, including some disassembling, packing, and reassembling. They've worked very well for me.

Tall_Xootr 09-13-19 06:24 PM

I have a typical SKS 20" fender in the front:

https://www.sks-germany.com/en/produ...-53-black-set/

In the rear I use a removable fender so I can fold the bicycle more easily.

https://www.sks-germany.com/en/products/x-tra-dry/

You can still fold the bicycle with a full size rear fender, you just have to be careful how to store it.

The rear fender works well in the rain. It also works for mud though the seat tube and chainstays tend to get a bit dirtier than with a full size fender. Overall I am happy with the setup. If you want a full size rear fender then I would suggest you get a set of SKS 20" fenders. Else go with my setup. Also Planetbike makes 20" fenders which were available through Xootr, so they should be a good fit.

Regards,
Josepoh

joey buzzard 09-14-19 01:41 PM

Thanks for the excellent suggestions.

I'm a bit reluctant to put fenders on as I'm a minimalist when it comes to bikes generally and my swift in particular.

I'm going to be travelling several days with no panniers, just me the bike and a small backpack, so if my shoes get soaked it'd be quite miserable.

Maybe I should look into getting galoshes instead of fenders? Especially so as a rear fender would interfere somewhat with the bike's foldability.

Food for thought. Thanks again.

tds101 09-14-19 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by joey buzzard (Post 21122468)
Thanks for the excellent suggestions.

I'm a bit reluctant to put fenders on as I'm a minimalist when it comes to bikes generally and my swift in particular.

I'm going to be travelling several days with no panniers, just me the bike and a small backpack, so if my shoes get soaked it'd be quite miserable.

Maybe I should look into getting galoshes instead of fenders? Especially so as a rear fender would interfere somewhat with the bike's foldability.

Food for thought. Thanks again.

Try a set of these cheapies from Amazon. I spotted them here in the forum awhile back, as one of the people here where using them. They're very minimal, easy to remove when necessary, and keep the wet and crud off adequately. Pretty solid for around $10,... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

2bridges1bike 09-14-19 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by arbee (Post 21121475)
I bought my Swift directly from Peter, which is to say: this was some while back. He set it up for me with a few options including fenders / mud guards. What's installed is a standard ("off the peg") Planet Bike 20" / 406 product. As mentioned, this was some while back. They've stood the test of time, including some disassembling, packing, and reassembling. They've worked very well for me.

Peter is still recommending the planet bike fenders. One of the clips broke off mine after after about 350 miles. The bumpy roads in my area cause it to separate from the cone and then friction from the tire broke it off. I was able to fix it with a zip tie and electrical tape though.

12boy 09-15-19 08:30 AM

I have used neoprene overshoes for years. These feature a zipper in the back and can be cut out for SPD shoes. Obviously they do nothing for the wet stripe up the back although a large seat bag like the minnehaha medium will help with that. I pretty much use them all winter long, with oversized shoes and 2 pair of wool socks when it is cold. As the temps approach zero I wear waterproof hiking boots. However, the fenders on my Brompton ( my only fendered bike) not only prevent road filth from getting on me but they keep the bike and chain a lot cleaner as wełl.

Harry94025 09-24-19 01:43 PM

Hi Guys,

I have a couple of Xootr Swift folding bikes and have been thinking of converting them to ebikes. Conv-e did a nice job of electrifying the Xootr Swift. Their conversion used a front hub motor with a special power pack that fits in the rear triangle.

I’ve tried contacting them a couple of times but haven’t had a response. Wondering if anyone has contact information or might know where I could buy parts or design information?

Thanks,
Harryhttps://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b8f6d203d.jpeghttps://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8d5e61920.jpeg

timo888 09-25-19 04:53 PM

The pin that secures the steerer tube on the Xootr Swift by fitting through that slot in the steerer post ... can anyone tell me what metal is it made of?

abone 10-01-19 02:27 PM

Hi,

Can someone confirm what type of bottom bracket the Xootr Swift has? I want to update my crankset and am somewhat (a lot!) confused about the various bottom bracket types. Pretty sure its BSA 68mm but want to confirm. My bike is 2011 vintage if that makes a difference.

Looking at SRAM cranksets and their website says BB30/PF30-68mm, GXP/PF GXP 68mm. Does that mean a BSA 68mm will work with their cranksets?

Or some advice on compatibility would be helpful.

I've read the Park Tool info about all the different types, and a couple other sources, but I'm still not positive what would work on the Swift.

Thanks

Trocadile 10-02-19 08:02 PM

Yes BSA 68mm for the Swift. But that's just what will fit in the frame. You have to make sure the particular BSA 68mm BB you use is compatible with your crankset.

Schwinnsta 11-13-19 07:14 AM

With long horizontal drop outs, how do get the rear wheel off if you have full fenders?

Schwinnsta 11-15-19 08:24 AM

Bump..would someone address the above question.

Numerozero 11-15-19 01:21 PM

You’ll have to remove the fenders first. And, if you have a rack, also that.

Schwinnsta 11-15-19 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Numerozero (Post 21210429)
You’ll have to remove the fenders first. And, if you have a rack, also that.

I can understand the fender but why the rack?

Tall_Xootr 11-24-19 10:32 PM

Move rear wheel back
 
Has anyone had any experience with the Surly Monkey Nuts V2.

https://www.jensonusa.com/Surly-Monkey-Nuts

I would like to move my wheel back to use a wider tire. In the past I have tried just moving it back and tightening the quick release. Though I found that it sometimes moves and causes problems with the brakes. Also I am not so good with the alignment after removing the wheel to fix a flat.

I need a better solution. So if anyone has used the Surly Monkey Nuts V2 or anything similar I would appreciate any advice you have.

Regards,
Joseph

laffin_boy 12-01-19 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Tall_Xootr (Post 21222187)
Has anyone had any experience with the Surly Monkey Nuts V2.

I would like to move my wheel back to use a wider tire. .......So if anyone has used the Surly Monkey Nuts V2 or anything similar I would appreciate any advice you have.

Yes I used them on my swift to move the axle back 5mm so I could run 451 x 41 tires. Work great and aren't "in the way" at all. Only drawback is cost for a few grams of metal.

Tall_Xootr 12-02-19 01:58 AM

Laffin boy,
Thanks for the info. Just to clarify is this your bicycle? https://www.bikeforums.net/21027073-post3855.html
Though a really nice bike, It doesn't have the standard Xootr dropouts. Do you have another Xootr Swift or did you use them prior to modifying this bicycle? I just want to make sure before I drop $ 21 dollars on a part. Also there is no mention of the width of the Monkey Nuts V2 on the Surly website, so I don't know if they will work in the standard Xootr dropout which I think is 1 cm wide.
Thanks again,
Tall_Xootr

laffin_boy 12-02-19 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Tall_Xootr (Post 21229891)
Laffin boy,
Thanks for the info. Just to clarify .......It doesn't have the standard Xootr dropouts.

The rear dropouts on my bike look non-standard because I hacked off all the unnecessary "track-style" dropout that I didn't need and then made lightening holes - to save a few grams. There's only one Xootr dropout and the front of yours is the same as mine. The adapters will accurately move the axle back 5mm and unless your tires are bigger than mine it will give you the clearance you need. If not get the model that gives you 20mm instead.

Tall_Xootr 12-04-19 05:44 PM

laffin_boy,
Again thanks. I am looking to use wider tires. Preferably 406-47 and I need a little more space for the width. What is the widest tire you have used with your Swift?
I will check closely to see if 5 mm will do it and purchase the Monkey Nuts V1. It not I will go with the Monkey Nuts V2.

Joseph

laffin_boy 12-09-19 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Tall_Xootr (Post 21233580)
I am looking to use wider tires. Preferably 406-47

Ah, we're talking Apples & Oranges. The fact that your tires are wider is overshadowed by the fact that they're 406mm vs my 451mm. Because of this your tires will sit approx 7/8" further back in the chainstays where there's way more space. You may not need setback adapters at all.

Paul Braithwait 12-10-19 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by racknid (Post 21206468)
Anyone used a Topeak BeamRack on a Swift?

If so was it a flat, A (rise), or V (drop)? Toperak says the A is for smaller frames, but the smaller wheels would seem to accommodate a V nicely.

I know that Xootr sells a rack but I have some Topeak MTX bags I really like

I think the Topeak will fit seat posts up to 31mm dia and the Swift has a 34mm post so it probably will not fit.

Schwinnsta 01-07-20 08:59 PM

Will the Tern Cargo rack mount on Xootr and still allow for folding. If this answered, I did not see it.

Schwinnsta 01-10-20 12:41 PM

I am seeking a recommendation on a rear rack for a Xootr Swift. It must allow allow fold so it would need round tubes to secure at seat stays. It needs to have tube rails that extend further back than most racks to avoid heels strike with panniers. I have big feet. It needs to allow attachment of a light on the rear of the rack. Thanks.

Numerozero 01-12-20 04:14 PM

Fenders for Xootr Swift
 

Originally Posted by joey buzzard (Post 21120625)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...666f6e5f3e.jpg

I wonder if anyone has any fenders/mud guards suggestions for my Swift? Not only is winter coming where I live, but I'm travelling on this bike in Ireland end of this month. I expect it's gonna get wet, particularly as I'll be riding in a North-Westerly direction for much of the trip. Are there any off the peg fenders which work well on a swift frame?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b06175cbf.jpeg
Dahon Mariner fenders over 35-406 Kojaks.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...301b10cd1.jpeg
Each SKS fender has only 1 pair of stays. Front: 162g. Rear: 166g.

i bought a pair of (SKS) fenders off a Dahon Mariner. A bit of finagling needed to make them fit. I didn’t want wider fenders as I’m running 35-406 Kojaks. The lady sold them as she changed to Schwalbe Big Apples so they didn’t fit anymore.


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