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Old 11-20-12, 06:14 AM
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Good quality 16" wheel bikes?

Hello

At this point in time, what are cheaper alternatives to Brompton for city commuting?

A friend of mine is currently spending a lot of time commuting with the Métro. Looking at the map, she'd probably save time by taking a folding bike with her and ride the last part, but Brompton is a bit pricey.

I know about Dahon's Curve series, but are there other brands/models I should know, including some only available in Asia (travel planned , and I could ship some home)?

Thank you.
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Hi,

Check out the Origami Fox. Black Friday price of $373 + shipping (usually $40, I think). You can check out this video of it folding. It folds very similar to a Brompton for less than 1/3 the price.

All that being said, I've never seen one in person (although I'm trying to convince a friend of mine at work to get one for his NYC commute).

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Older dahons like the Piccolo were 16"; Mezzo and Bike friday Tikit also good, though not really any less cost than the Brompton. There are Brompton clones to be had in asia made by neobike - this from wikipedia:

During 2003, Neobike exhibited a—now unlicensed—copy of the Brompton bicycle design at the European Eurobike show.[SUP][1][/SUP] Unlicensed copies of the Brompton product were then imported into The Netherlands (under the name "Scoop One" and "Astra Flex V3"), into the United Kingdom (under the name "Merc") and into Spain (as the Nishiki "Oxford Bicycle").
Not sure if they're still available but it's worth a look.
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Over there , at least across the channel there is sales traffic in used Bromptons.

not much to compare , fold in half DaHons are a different 16" wheel
wider tire, smaller rim diameter..
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Originally Posted by LittlePixel View Post
Older dahons like the Piccolo were 16"; Mezzo and Bike friday Tikit also good, though not really any less cost than the Brompton.
I beg to disagree. At least in UK.

A mezzo RRP is £750 ish but they are available frequently for good discounts, especially in pink !!

Sub £500 should be no problem. I got one delivered for £389.

Also check out ebay occasionally they go for less than £300 used.

I like a discounted Brompton please sir............. Why are you laughing...........

(However, I have been known to find used legit Bromptons for even less ,from my local barber.......)

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Tern brand folding bikes should also be on your consideration list
https://www.ternbicycles.com/us/bikes
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I have been using a STRIDA for several months now with good results.

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Thanks all. I'll check out the Origami, which I didn't know about and looks pretty much as compact as Brompton.
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Originally Posted by bromptonyc View Post
Tern brand folding bikes should also be on your consideration list
Tern's 16" wheel model would be...?
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your friend is in paris, ya? this one is cool:

https://www.mcsbike.com/htm/i_scooter.html

https://www.cyclorama.net/viewProduct.php?id=123#

it's like the old daewoo shuttle but with upgraded components, ingenious folding stem mechanism, 3 speed nexus hub, and extended cockpit.

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Originally Posted by Winfried View Post
Thanks all. I'll check out the Origami, which I didn't know about and looks pretty much as compact as Brompton.
It's not. Note the Fox rear triangle folds only ~90deg instead of the Brompton's ~180deg fold. On the Fox, the front folds to the off side and does not cover the drivetrain as in the Brompton. Folded dimensions:
Brompton - 23x22x11inches
Origami Fox - 28x23x14 inches
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Originally Posted by Winfried View Post
A friend of mine is currently spending a lot of time commuting with the Métro.
Well, there's the French folder, the Mobiky MY16 models.

Living in Paris with the 12" and 16" Mobikys.

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And Dahon's tiny, light and emphatically single speed Jifo.

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The Bigfish from Italy.
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hmm.. dat new design.. (should have been belt drive)


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Originally Posted by Winfried View Post
I know about Dahon's Curve series...
The current Dahon Curve model on the new website.
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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
Well, there's the French folder, the Mobiky MY16 models.

Living in Paris with the 12" and 16" Mobikys.
That's a pretty cool video.

I'm impressed that wheels that small move so well.
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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
It's not. Note the Fox rear triangle folds only ~90deg instead of the Brompton's ~180deg fold. On the Fox, the front folds to the off side and does not cover the drivetrain as in the Brompton. Folded dimensions:
Brompton - 23x22x11inches
Origami Fox - 28x23x14 inches
I own neither a Fox nor a Brompton. And I believe that the Brompton is a nicer bike in a lot of ways - it folds smaller, and really, it's just cool.

That being said, the difference in price is significant. For a lot of people, I think the Fox makes more sense.

Cheers,
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Well, there's the French folder, the Mobiky MY16 models.

Living in Paris with the 12" and 16" Mobikys.
I thought the Mobiky was slow like the CarryMe. Boy was I wrong!

Speaking of the CarryMe, it should also be considered.

https://www.pacific-cycles.com/produc...?cat1=1&cat2=7
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Originally Posted by Winfried View Post
Hello

At this point in time, what are cheaper alternatives to Brompton for city commuting?

A friend of mine is currently spending a lot of time commuting with the Métro. Looking at the map, she'd probably save time by taking a folding bike with her and ride the last part, but Brompton is a bit pricey.

. I know about Dahon's Curve series, but are there other brands/models I should know, including some only available in Asia (travel planned , and I could ship some home)?

Thank you.
One more consideration that should be noted. If your friend's final destination is about half a mile away, the Xootr kick scooter should also be considered. I can hit 6 - 9 miles per hour or about two to three times walking speed. This is not a child's kick scooter and can go prettry fast! Be careful although and always wear gloves.

One more recommendation, Swifty Scooter. I want a Swifty scooter real bad!

https://www.swiftyscooters.com/
https://www.xootr.com/kick-scooter_mg.html
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Thanks all:

- A Mobiky salesman in a store told me customers complained about its handlebar lacking in stiffness. I guess they couldn't provide some connection between the headset and the main frame to make it more rigid

- I have a CarryMe SD (ie. single speed), but it's a bit slow and expensive for what it is. The DS model (three gears) was even more expensive

- If I can find a store that carries them, I'd like to check Dahon's Jifo and Curve, and see how they fare compared to the Brompton

- The Bigfish looks too big when folded to be taken on the subway

- Thanks for the idea of getting a scooter, but I'd rather a bike instead

After all those years, it's odd that no other company has come with a bike that folds as well as the Brompton. I find them expensive and old-looking, hence my search for alternatives.
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If you ever travel to Thailand.
https://www.aimbike.com/newbike.php?ref_id_type=43
https://www.bike-monster.com/product-...571-DAHON.html
https://www.bm-bike.com/product_509922_th

Also search for the Dahon China website, many models there.

Personally I got the Dahon Mantis.
I modded quite a bit but it became a great bike.
Dahon Curve is good too, but I'd swap the handlepost to a 1 piece.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...t=dahon+mantis
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the Giant Subway looks great. one of the best looking 16" wheel bikes i've seen in a long time:




there is also the b'twin tilt. it's new. 20" not 16", but it has a greaseless belt drive transmission which is perfect for metro/subway commuting. looks promising:

https://www.btwin.com/en/folding-bike...-7-torino.html

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Cronus makes some 16" bikes. They look mostly like Dahon knockoffs.
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Old Diblasi R4 is another option. Can stand in a smaller footprint,(although taller ), than a brompton or mezzo and is much much thiner. Ridicually easy, fast fold, can be done whilst walking with bike! Has a carry handle built in to frame on righr model. Used <£100
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