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Old 01-14-13, 12:41 PM
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Confused about what to do..

Hello people,

I recently moved to the South of Netherlands. My language courses and couple of other social commitments are in the neighbouring City Maastricht. I take the train there but I need a wheel to get to the places I want to so that I can be flexible in times. I have a normal bike but cant take them in the train. So looking for a folder.

The problem is, I want to buy a Urban/Hybrid bike once the winter is over. Because I like to do small trails and also want to bike to Germany regularly (just under 20km from my house). I have more friends in Germany as I speak German (also tbh its freaking expensive these cross country trains and busses).

Now I have about 700 Euros that I want to spend. Would prefer to get a good Hybrid but I do need the folder. The under 150 Euro ones are just crap. Do you have a suggestion for me?

Thanks
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I have a Brompton and it can definitely do light trails. I also have done a 34 km road loop from my house and back - no problems and quite comfortable. I know others have done much longer distances on a Brompton. However, if you plan on doing more challenging trails, particular if the ground is softer or bumpy, a Brompton would be challenged. Maybe a Dahon or Tern that can take larger tires? There are probably other brands available to you that I don't see here in Canada.
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ask this lady for advice.

https://ronajustine.blogspot.no/2012/...le-bottom.html
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Originally Posted by tango21 View Post
Hello people,

I recently moved to the South of Netherlands. My language courses and couple of other social commitments are in the neighbouring City Maastricht. I take the train there but I need a wheel to get to the places I want to so that I can be flexible in times. I have a normal bike but cant take them in the train. So looking for a folder.

The problem is, I want to buy a Urban/Hybrid bike once the winter is over. Because I like to do small trails and also want to bike to Germany regularly (just under 20km from my house). I have more friends in Germany as I speak German (also tbh its freaking expensive these cross country trains and busses).

Now I have about 700 Euros that I want to spend. Would prefer to get a good Hybrid but I do need the folder. The under 150 Euro ones are just crap. Do you have a suggestion for me?

Thanks
tango21,

You seemed to be contradicting yourself here. First you want a folder so you can take them in the train. Then later you're complaining how freaking expensive they are. Which is it? Are you just planning to take it on the train occasionally or frequently? If it is just sometimes, I would suggest buying a 700c hybrid and be done with it. I mean you are cycling 20km from your house and maybe cycle back as dusk since you will have more daylight during the spring and summer time anyhow.

The reason I am recommending you against buying a folder is the fact that you are paying a premium on a folding bike for the same ride quality. That premium is amortized over the years through multi-modal commute and travel where you will pay extra if you are to travel only by car, parking fees etc.. You get my drift. But if you are just after the convenience of once in a while folding because you might want to catch a train when it's late in a day, then you are paying a premium plus a penalty on the price of the bike when you can get something cheaper on 700c and the fact that riding a big wheel bike allows you to roll better on the trails compared to smaller wheels. Seeing you felt that buses and trains in your area are freaking expensive, I suspect that you will never use them much to justify the cost of using transit, the folding bike will just become a premium ownership. A friend who bought 2 Giant folding bikes last year bought them from people like yourself. Thought the occasional transit use would justify the ownership. In the end, they ended selling the folders and kept the normal bikes. The bikes were practically new but he got them for like 1/4th the original price tag.

Hope this helps.

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Old 01-14-13, 02:35 PM
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Folding bike with 26 inch wheels, for example:

https://www.dahon.com/category/wheel-size/26-inch-wheels
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Old 01-14-13, 02:48 PM
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Thank you. Will take a look.
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Originally Posted by pacificcyclist View Post
tango21,

You seemed to be contradicting yourself here. First you want a folder so you can take them in the train. Then later you're complaining how freaking expensive they are. Which is it? Are you just planning to take it on the train occasionally or frequently? If it is just sometimes, I would suggest buying a 700c hybrid and be done with it. I mean you are cycling 20km from your house and maybe cycle back as dusk since you will have more daylight during the spring and summer time anyhow.

The reason I am recommending you against buying a folder is the fact that you are paying a premium on a folding bike for the same ride quality. That premium is amortized over the years through multi-modal commute and travel where you will pay extra if you are to travel only by car, parking fees etc.. You get my drift. But if you are just after the convenience of once in a while folding because you might want to catch a train when it's late in a day, then you are paying a premium plus a penalty on the price of the bike when you can get something cheaper on 700c and the fact that riding a big wheel bike allows you to roll better on the trails compared to smaller wheels. Seeing you felt that buses and trains in your area are freaking expensive, I suspect that you will never use them much to justify the cost of using transit, the folding bike will just become a premium ownership. A friend who bought 2 Giant folding bikes last year bought them from people like yourself. Thought the occasional transit use would justify the ownership. In the end, they ended selling the folders and kept the normal bikes. The bikes were practically new but he got them for like 1/4th the original price tag.

Hope this helps.
Thank you for the reply. Perhaps I did not make myself all that clear. The problem is that I do need a bicycle in Maastricht and I can only take a folder in the train. For the kind of bicycling that I like to do, I want to buy a hybrid (Something that I am doing anyway). What I am confused about is whether to get a good folder and perhaps a lower hybrid than I would like or get a cheap folder.

On a side note
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/fietsen-...vouwfiets.html

I found this in the second hand market. The owner wants me to reply buy tonight since I was making bids right from the get go. Would you advise to take it?
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Old 01-14-13, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1nterceptor View Post
Folding bike with 26 inch wheels, for example:

https://www.dahon.com/category/wheel-size/26-inch-wheels
This is too big for the authorities in NL to go without buying the ticket. But thanks
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Old 01-14-13, 03:25 PM
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I am thinking a fair quality 20" folder ias all you need but that is my opinion. About the bike in the ad: Is one speed enough for you? If not you can install a 2 speed hub. If it is a 110 OLD spacing in the rear it is also possible ti fit a 3 or 5 speed hub if needed. Not a bad bike at all for your needs in my opinion.
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Old 01-14-13, 03:30 PM
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I am thinking a fair quality 20" folder ias all you need but that is my opinion. About the bike in the ad: Is one speed enough for you? If not you can install a 2 speed hub. If it is a 110 OLD spacing in the rear it is also possible ti fit a 3 or 5 speed hub if needed. Not a bad bike at all for your needs in my opinion.
I live in the Netherlands after all. Its all flat here. I have a single speed a 20 year old 26' now. I can clock up decent speed on it. Do you thing that bike is worth it?
I quite like the idea a installing something on it later. Could use my engineering degree to some use .
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Originally Posted by tango21 View Post
This is too big for the authorities in NL to go without buying the ticket. But thanks
Are you sure, did you see the photos of the bikes (Jack / Expresso) folded ?
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Originally Posted by tango21 View Post
I live in the Netherlands after all. Its all flat here. I have a single speed a 20 year old 26' now. I can clock up decent speed on it. Do you thing that bike is worth it?
I quite like the idea a installing something on it later. Could use my engineering degree to some use .
From what the seller is claiming it is a good buy. Peopel posting here that own one is happy they bought it as far as I can remember.

Closest I could get to finding a price in Euro in a hurry: https://www.skladacikola.com/Skladaci...Mu-Uno,70.html

https://www.dahon.com/bikes/2011/mu-uno
https://forum.dahon.com/lofiversion/i...hp/f5-150.html
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Originally Posted by badmother View Post
From what the seller is claiming it is a good buy. Peopel posting here that own one is happy they bought it as far as I can remember.

Closest I could get to finding a price in Euro in a hurry: https://www.skladacikola.com/Skladaci...Mu-Uno,70.html

https://www.dahon.com/bikes/2011/mu-uno
https://forum.dahon.com/lofiversion/i...hp/f5-150.html
I offered what the seller was asking for. Let me see if I get it. If not I will keep looking at the second hand market. The new mu uno in germany cost close to 600 .

The thing about cheap one are that they cost about 150 but they just arent worth it!!
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I offered what the seller was asking for. Let me see if I get it. If not I will keep looking at the second hand market. The new mu uno in germany cost close to 600 € .

The thing about cheap one are that they cost about 150 € but they just arent worth it!!
Keep us updated!
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WOuld have considered it had it not been for the fact that I suck big time at it. Neither roller nor ice skate suit my liking!
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Keep us updated!
Will sure do
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Originally Posted by Diode100 View Post
Are you sure, did you see the photos of the bikes (Jack / Expresso) folded ?
They look really nice. But the train I take are just one of those one coach rail and the authorities are a bit too stiff..not taking the chance. Beside I do like the idea of having 2 bikes, a folder and my hybrid.
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I understand your concerns with folders' ability off road,
but depending on how tough the trails are; it may be possible.
Suspension, more agressive thread pattern, etc. Here I am on
a borrowed bike with 16 in. wheels. The tires wouldn't bite on
the sandy dry river bed, 1st photo. But on the rocky damp
trail it was ok, 1st video clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUUCaoVUtEI
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Originally Posted by tango21 View Post
Thank you for the reply. Perhaps I did not make myself all that clear. The problem is that I do need a bicycle in Maastricht and I can only take a folder in the train. For the kind of bicycling that I like to do, I want to buy a hybrid (Something that I am doing anyway). What I am confused about is whether to get a good folder and perhaps a lower hybrid than I would like or get a cheap folder.

On a side note
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/fietsen-...vouwfiets.html

I found this in the second hand market. The owner wants me to reply buy tonight since I was making bids right from the get go. Would you advise to take it?
For a Mu Uno, and if it's 50% new than I say yeah. I have the cheaper version which is a Speed Uno and on the flats, you can go really fast. The Speed Uno is more comfortable to ride on trails than the Mu Uno being a stiffer frame. But the stiff frame makes you go fast. Mine is equipped with a 2 speed hub; hence Speed Duo. On the flats cruising, you can easily achieve 20km/h no problem depending on your fitness level of course. And you sit upright like a hybrid. In fact for 20km up to 40km, I use the Duo more than the Mu SL in the spring and summer time because I can roll it into the train as well which the Mu SL does not.

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The seller accepted my bid. I will go next week to collect it. Thank you all for the talk.
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The seller accepted my bid. I will go next week to collect it. Thank you all for the talk.
Cool! Pix and more when you get it!
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Got the bike. Quick picture from last night. Will take more pics later
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Congrats on the bike, I think you'll enjoy it.

This vid always makes me want to get a Mu Uno:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adVuEc_BUeg
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Congrats on the bike, I think you'll enjoy it.

This vid always makes me want to get a Mu Uno:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adVuEc_BUeg
Yes, congrats on the bike! Tell us/post some photos about your adventures.

As for that video, I'm not sure it makes me want to get a Mu Uno so much as go to Southern California!
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