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Old 01-19-13, 11:44 PM
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A few questions

To outline my situation:
I am a person who is looking to travel quite oft throughout many different countries. My aim is to stay nimble and light, without owning a car for the meantime. (and I will be flying over water between countries and a car would not be practical) I will also be utilizing trains for the most part.
I have a few questions:
1)Should I be looking in the market for a folding bike? (one that is available to be taken aboard airplanes) Mostly European air travel, so if anyone could chime in with their specific flight regulations, I would appreciate that.
Or
2)Should I just go ahead and buy and sell cheap REGULAR bikes everywhere I go, when I arrive and when I depart, respectively? (A possibly feasible option but may be taxing on myself and completely unnecessary, also might have to end up spending more than I would like to if time is not in my favor)

If you believe the former to be a more possible option, please feel free to chime in with any suggestions!
If the latter, send me on my way to another sub forum!

My 3 cents:
I dont want to put a price cap to limit your suggestions, but within the realm of reality (since I figure I will use this bike for many years) 500-700$ max**********?? maybe more?? Im willing to find used / fixable folders as well.
Also, if anyone knows any specific tips on traveling via airplane with a bike and suitcases to use, I will be listening!
Im 5ft10 185lbs
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How long do you anticipate being in each location ? What kind of cycling do you anticipate doing, pootling round the city, long day rides, or serious touring ?

You need to be in around for months rather than weeks to make finding, buying and eventually selling on a bike to make that option worth while.

One the other hand you are going to struggle to get a suitable folder and suitcase for $700, unless you are very lucky in finding something used.
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Originally Posted by Diode100 View Post
How long do you anticipate being in each location ? What kind of cycling do you anticipate doing, pootling round the city, long day rides, or serious touring ?

You need to be in around for months rather than weeks to make finding, buying and eventually selling on a bike to make that option worth while.

One the other hand you are going to struggle to get a suitable folder and suitcase for $700, unless you are very lucky in finding something used.
I will probably be in different locations for different periods of time ranging from 1 week to 3 months so that is also why I thought option two could be troubling.
If I had to guess I would say I will be riding 5-8miles per day
Dont limit your suggestions to my price tag, Id be willing to pay up to 700 (possibly more) for the folder alone, from a quick search I gathered that the suitcases may be more expensive than I would have guessed, but it will be worth protecting the bike.

Thanks a lot for your reply.
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5-8 miles is not a great distance so i would be inclined to look at something like the Carry Me, very portable, and fine for casual short distances.

https://www.pacific-cycles.com/produc...?cat1=1&cat2=7

The prices on that website seem high though, i'm sure they could be bettered.
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Carry Me would be mainly for riding on better roads as the wheels are small. What sort of places are you wisiting? my first instinct said Brompton. A lot have been said about traveling with and on a Brompton. You need to search the net to find out as it is too much to repeat. Can be bought second hand depending on where you live. Bike plus some more "stuff" in a suitcase, chlotes in the Brompton T bag. What would you do with the suitcase after arriving? Can be converted into a trailer with the Bike Friday option but often you would like to travel lighter. You have a lot of reading ahead of you to find the solution that is right for you.

Peopel travel with the Brompton just wrapped in cardboard or insulated sleepingmats but then what would you do if you land in Venezuela and the bike is damaged?

Renting bikes is an option in larger cityes bu may be expensive in the long run and steel a lot of your time learniing the system.

https://bikefriday.com/thestore/produ...jcYNAftnPQuVu2

https://www.bikeshophub.com/the-bike-friday-trailer/

https://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group...nTalk/messages
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If I were you, I'd look for a Bike Friday or something else that is known for packing (instead of folding) and a Samsonite F31 suitcase. If you consider how much you'd pay to rent or buy/sell bikes at each location, I think you'll see that for any regular traveling, it will cost you way more than $700. And any folding bike with rear suspension should pack quite nicely into this suitcase.

If you want to think way out of the box, Cruzbike Quest does exactly this (with 451 wheels).



(Image shown with 559 wheels, not 451 wheels).

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Thing is Brompton folds it's front wheel over the right side where all the drive train parts are,
and combined with the internal gear hub drive train , there is no derailleur to whack in baggage handling.

plus there is the whole Bike Friday range, those pack into a Hard side Suitcase,
and can be sized to fit your body as well as any bike you own.
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Bike Friday has a large Pocket Companion for $995
https://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/pre-loved
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Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
Bike Friday has a large Pocket Companion for $995
https://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/pre-loved
+1

This is a little more than the OP wanted to spend, but if he can get what will really work for him then I think that's a big win.

Having your own bike that's tuned to you regardless of where you go, that can be an amazing difference.

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Old 01-20-13, 04:12 PM
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You guys are absolutely amazing and intelligible, thanks a lot. How long do these bikes last if taken care of on my part and not thrown around by TSA? (the Brompton). If I am going to have it for a while, I would rather spend more and have better rides than spend a little and be more troubled. (for years). Will pay for itself anyways in Taxi costs alone.


When I was last in Europe, arriving from the train and then being met with the accessibility of Taxi cabs every which way you turn to take you to your hotel, the choice of travel becomes more of an ultimatum. (even though it is 2 miles away, and then you end up paying a 25$ fare) Assuming I buy a Folder, I will then be off and on my way before I would have packed my things into the cab.


I have also read somewhere that there are trailer systems to lug around your luggage (heh), will these work on most models of folders or are they specific to certain bikes?
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I know it was a little more but with the warranty I think it would be worth it and BF is known for taking care of your bike regardless where you are in the world.
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Originally Posted by Bik View Post

I have also read somewhere that there are trailer systems to lug around your luggage (heh), will these work on most models of folders or are they specific to certain bikes?
The Bike friday trailer I linked to is one of them, Works with almost 100% of bikes.


I would suggest to avoid a trailer tat is atatched to the seatpost (on a folder) since that could lead to framecracks around the seattube.
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Originally Posted by Diode100 View Post
How long do you anticipate being in each location ? What kind of cycling do you anticipate doing, pootling round the city, long day rides, or serious touring ?
It sounds to me that the OP will be pootling around the city. It's unclear whether the OP will want to carry stuff with him while riding. I'm guessing yes since he/she sounds sort of like a tourist but also perhaps using the bike for utility purposes also using some sort of public transit which suggests regular folding and unfolding. If the OP had an unlimited budget, given his/her average size, the Brompton would be a bike to test ride.

But with the budget -- I think most used Bromptons would be more allowing for some accessories and such -- I'd either look for a used tikit or a Dahon. The tikit might be a stretch, but I think used ones pop up every now and then under the cap. A 7 or 8-speed 20" Dahon would be the easiest to find and test ride.
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I found a 1990s (not sure on exact year) Dahon on Craigslist for under 100$, any point in pursuing this?
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Some pictures (not sure if this will help):

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I'd pass on that one.
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From post #6, are the bike fridays tougher to bring on public transportation because are not as well known for "folding" as they are for "shipping"? Also would it take a longer time to make compact? In all honesty I would rather have a lot more trouble shipping my bike via flight once every few months (if i buy a Brompton, assuming it is even harder) than every time I would like to use public transport. (just an assumption based on that post I have no prior knowledge of the bike friday)

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From post #6, are the bike fridays tougher to bring on public transportation because are not as well known for "folding" as they are for "shipping"? Also would it take a longer time to make compact? In all honesty I would rather have a lot more trouble shipping my bike via flight once every few months (if i buy a Brompton, assuming it is even harder) than every time I would like to use public transport. (just an assumption based on that post I have no prior knowledge of the bike friday)

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The Bike Friday Tikit has got 16" wheels, great ride and fast fold but bigger when folded than the brompton. Not sure how easy it is to put in a suitcase and what size suitcase is needed but if you search the net I am sure you find plenty info on it.

If not riding a lot (traveling WITH a bike rather than traveling ON a bike I would go for 16" wheels.

Look into the Dahon Curve also. Great little bike. Newer put one in a suitcase but i am sure others have. Search the net.
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From post #6, are the bike fridays tougher to bring on public transportation because are not as well known for "folding" as they are for "shipping"? Also would it take a longer time to make compact? In all honesty I would rather have a lot more trouble shipping my bike via flight once every few months (if i buy a Brompton, assuming it is even harder) than every time I would like to use public transport. (just an assumption based on that post I have no prior knowledge of the bike friday)

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There are 16" (tikit) and 20" Bike Fridays. You're statement above is true for the 20" BF. The Brompton is more compact than either Bike Friday.

I'd test the tikit and Brompton out.
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There are 16" (tikit) and 20" Bike Fridays. You're statement above is true for the 20" BF. The Brompton is more compact than either Bike Friday.

I'd test the tikit and Brompton out.
Thank you. You can find these bikes at sponsored dealers all over the US, right?
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The Swift might be another option
https://www.xootr.com/folding-bicycle.html
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I have possibly a final question:

I understand that there are limitations and guidelines pertaining to the building of these folders to keep them within a certain sized frame/weight, but will the average rider actively realize a difference between a folder and a `NORMAL` bike with regards to speed / energy expended - distance traveled? Not that I really care that much at all, I have figured I would go right to the source as I figure most of you have actually ridden both types of bikes at one time or another. Again, thanks everyone for being helpful.
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