Wont pass CSPC , then It cannot be sold here .. simple as that.

will it fold on impact?. that is not a good feature..

Hello Alex - Here's my two cents:

The tool kit is sold separately and goes for $70 - $75 depending on what the dealer is asking for it. After looking it over on the web, I ordered one for my bike. Yes, I could probably assemble something for less but I like the way it fits securely in the bike. After the bike and kit arrive I will investigate how well it will meet most likely needs and if necessary, supplement it but I really hope that won't be necessary. I'll carry a spare tube and patch kit.

I hope the pump is adequate because it would be nice to have it carried on the bike rather than carry a separate pump. I am used to inflating my tandem tires before every ride with a good floor pump that has an accurate gage. For the Brompton, I hope to get a sense of how much air loss there is typically after a day and just add a few pumps or whatever. I will use my hand as a gauge although I know that it is not accurate but I think I'll be able to keep the tires in a proper range.

I have no plans to replace the grips. When they get worn, I'll probably just wrap with a good bar tape. If I experience discomfort, then I will look into alternative grips, but I don't plan to solve a problem until I have one. Same with saddle - I hope to use the standard Brompton saddle. If it is uncomfortable, I will pull the Terry Fly Ti saddle off of my tandem and try it on the Brompton. But I love the look of the Brooks saddles and Ergon grips and would never question why someone else would want to get them.

No comment on helmet - lots of good choices.

Unless the Brompton chain is different from other new chains you should not need to lube it for a long time. They come from the factory with a very good, long lasting lubricant. When it eventually does need to be lubed I'll probably use what I use for my other bikes - White Lightning Epic Ride. It is a synthetic lubricant almost like a wax that supposedly prevents grime build up. I like it and use it through four seasons and the chain stays clean, unless I use another type of lube and then it seems that I can never get it really clean again. After the initial lubricant from the new chain has worn off I apply the Epic Ride about every fifth ride or so. Apply to the moving chain while turning the pedal and wipe off the excess with a rag. If you ride a lot, eventually you may want to pick up one of those little cleaning kits that allows you to clean the chain pretty well without removing it from the bike.

Other thoughts? Riding a bike is a simple wonderful pleasure. You are fortunate that you have rediscovered it.

ill probably ending buying the tool kit if its not included, and i still need to buy a pump but it seems like there are a few good option, doublediamond, thank you for your input

That depends on model and size. You can check on the Schwalbe site.

The Schwalbe Marathon for a Brompton has 65-110 PSI on the sidewall. Brompton recommends for Marathons:

Front: 60 to 75 PSI, 85 PSI max.
Rear: 70 to 85 PSI, 85 PSI max.

See: http://support.brompton.co.uk/entrie...tyre-pressures

-HANK RYAN-
Norman, Oklahoma USA

Folding helmets - however cool - could be an issue. However, I'm pretty sure Bern helmets meet all safety standards. I bought a couple at REI when I was in the US.

I took this exerpt from bhsi.org

"Bern's helmets are skate or ski shaped, so they are very well-rounded except for the rigid visor on one. They have small vents, and none has enough ventilation for hard bicycle riding in warm weather. Some of them use Brock Foam, a formulation that provides multi-impact protection, but those are called hard hats rather than helmets and Bern says they "do not meet action sports head protection standards" but may work better in lesser multiple impacts to prevent concussion. Just don't hit too hard! Their catalog is very clear on the helmet liners that meet impact standards and the ones that do not. You can check the sticker inside to be sure. Caution: some of Bern's models come with different liners that do or don't meet the CPSC bike helmet standard. That includes their Macon, Brentwood, Watts and Brighton models. In their 2012 helmet article Consumer Reports listed a Bern Brighton as Poor.

For their 2012 helmet articleConsumer Reports tested one of Bern's helmet models, the Brighton, and found that it did not meet the impact performance requirements of the CPSC standard, rating it Poor. The Brighton comes in both CPSC and non-CPSC models.

Bern has a trademarked Zip Mold foam that they say uses liquid injected foam that is molded in the shell and is used in helmets that meet the CPSC bike helmet standard. It is expanded polyurethane (EPU) a foam in use for many years by a few Taiwanese manufacturers."


It would seem some of their helmets meet safety standards some dont even attempt to, but consumer reports did their own independent testing and gave them a poor rating as well as nutcase Received a poor rating from consumer reports, although would like a stylish helmet i will not compromise on safety i may just end up with a standard style helmet as long as it has high safety ratings from a 3rd party source

I was more commenting on the tweedy look of the carbon fabric on shell..

get whatever helmet you like . the maximum safety lore says you will need a new replacement one
every 48 months anyhow. so no purpose in getting attached to any of them..

Do these work with no modifications?

I'm considering the "S" type bar. Looks like the clamp diameter is 25.4. Any reason from a folding perspective I couldn't run a slightly wider 25.4 bar with a similar radius with the above grips/bars ends?

http://www.bfold.com/images/S6L/S6L+_folded.jpg

Also, for anyone who might be interested there is a Shutter Precision dynamo hub that falls between Shimano and Schmidt in price/weight.

Up until a few days ago there was an ebay seller listing complete wheels.

just need to consider the bar tip striking the ground when you fold down the steering riser..

any further apart and the brake cables and housing need to be longer..

Fwiw holding on to the bar ends , is the widest part , may be adequate..

S bar, can use standard length Ergon Grips.. being 'straight' ..

Thanks. With slightly wider bars and an additional hand position from bar ends a Brompton is a LOT more appealing to me.

I'd consider upgrading the cables and housing (and brake pads to Kool Stop Salmon) at the time of purchase anyway.

I think Kool Stop Shimano Road inserts slide right in the pad holder..

they use Very good cables and housing Now, Jagwire, & teflon coated cable,
you likely, wont be upgrading , just replacing short, with longer parts.

FWIW,
looking at the data, the riser for the H bar arrives at a similar height,

for the bar clamp, as the S riser, the reach bend is a bit different,
and the hinge is higher up, so the M [part of the H build] bar
wont hit the ground, when folded down.
so a few inches is gained when playing around with different bars.

Just an Update,

I received my bike and if course im in love with it, i got the road morph pump, and its seems the brompton toolkit has been recalled so for now I have a topeak toolkit. Also in the end i got a front block and got the mini O bag and will probably get a larger bag soon, just have to decide which one. i already brought the bike with my on a trip via plane with a B&W cases and had zero propblems with united airlines. so far sticking with the stock grips because i do not feel they are lacking so much

I also just recently bought a Brompton, S type, 6 spd.
Was on vacation in Puerto Rico and stopped by a local
folding bike shop. Negotiated a cash deal with the store
for a stock bike they had. Rode the bike a few times then
slipped it back in the factory cardboard box. Checked it as
free 1st luggage with Jetblue; Puerto Rico to New Jersey.
No damage when I got home.

For on board luggage, I went with Demano. They're made from
recycled advertising banners, no two are the same; plus the
patterns are much nicer I think :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5Mzmv7hCk

Yes, it is.

-HANK RYAN-
Norman, Oklahoma USA

I looked at the handle bar height of the 4 bar options, and where the clamps for the bar center

of the H (which is the M bar) with the hinge up 3 cm.. and the riser for the S bar which is flat .

So replacing the handlebar on an H bike with a rise between flat and the M type.. offers an adjustment ..