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I'm not talking about speed, I'm talking about feel. When I ride the Pocket Rocket (451), it feels close enough to a 700c bicycle in how it rolls, handles, maintains its velocity, and manages imperfect pavement that my mind can be tricked into thinking that I'm on a 700c roadbike. When I ride the Pocket Crusoe (406), that illusion is gone. It's a fine bike - and one that will likely see more touring miles than the Pocket Rocket - but it falls short of feeling like a 700c roadbike. To be frank, I was surprised myself; I was expecting the Pocket Crusoe (406) to be virtually the same as the Pocket Rocket. But the difference is there and it's tangible, and now I understand why Bike Friday's designers went with 451 for the Pocket Rocket when they designed the bike.
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Spooned on a pair of Schwalbe Super Moto-X tires onto the Bike Friday All Packa.
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Test ride of my Origami Bull. Overall a quite pleasant experience. I need to upgrade the seat, pedals, and switch to ergonomic grips, and I might swap the fenders for some composites. Otherwise, it's a smooth ride.















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(don't move - his vision is based on movement - if we don't move he can't see us)

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Entrance gate, Freedman's Cemetery Memorial

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Visiting my Family at the cemetery.

Had to wait a few minutes till another service wrapped up. Good time for a cheeseburger!

Had to wait a few minutes till another service wrapped up. Good time for a cheeseburger!
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I've never seriously considered a 451 BF, due to the limited tire selection, but this is a great explanation of why they went that way. I'll have to keep my eyes open for one of these!
I'm not talking about speed, I'm talking about feel. When I ride the Pocket Rocket (451), it feels close enough to a 700c bicycle in how it rolls, handles, maintains its velocity, and manages imperfect pavement that my mind can be tricked into thinking that I'm on a 700c roadbike. When I ride the Pocket Crusoe (406), that illusion is gone. It's a fine bike - and one that will likely see more touring miles than the Pocket Rocket - but it falls short of feeling like a 700c roadbike. To be frank, I was surprised myself; I was expecting the Pocket Crusoe (406) to be virtually the same as the Pocket Rocket. But the difference is there and it's tangible, and now I understand why Bike Friday's designers went with 451 for the Pocket Rocket when they designed the bike.
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Spending Thanksgiving at my nieces. She lives in Morrisville which is outside Charlotte NC.
Nice old downtown but revitalized as well.

They have a train go through town!

Nice coffee shop and I was ready for a cup. Summit Coffee Cafe.

This is from a time gone by… a gift from the HS class of 1951 to the town and teachers who made them ready for the world.
Nice old downtown but revitalized as well.

They have a train go through town!

Nice coffee shop and I was ready for a cup. Summit Coffee Cafe.

This is from a time gone by… a gift from the HS class of 1951 to the town and teachers who made them ready for the world.
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I have to correct myself again!! It’s becoming a regular thing I’m afraid.
my ride was in Mooresville, not Morrisville…
Sorry!
my ride was in Mooresville, not Morrisville…
Sorry!
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My Brompton with 20" wheel conversion on a ride across southern India earlier this year, there are times when a speeding Tata lorry is not the most hazardous thing to cyclists on the roads there.

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Converted a used Pocket Crusoe to narrow flat bars and it's been a revelation. It's a fun, playful bike that can tour and tool around town. And roll into the back of the Honda Element when I pick it up from the shop.
I've also got a Zizzo Liberté, which is a fun, affordable, and light (23#) folder for town but it lacks the ride quality of the Pocket Crusoe. On the surface they are similar - light 20" flat bar folders - but they are totally different rides.
The Liberté fold is faster and neater for multi-modal travel and it's not so precious to leave locked outside while shopping, so it still has its place and I like bashing around town with it.
It should be noted that the Bike Friday is multiple times more expensive than the Zizzo, but that differential drops precipitously when you buy a used Bike Friday. If you're looking for an affordable folder for long days in the saddle, a used Bike Friday is a great option.
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Last pics from my week in Mooresville, NC.

They keep repainting all the old building advertisements.

Tap House(On Tap) visit. Good German Wheat beer!

They keep repainting all the old building advertisements.

Tap House(On Tap) visit. Good German Wheat beer!
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We'll always have Paris...Texas, USA

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