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Old 07-30-13, 08:32 PM
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Some 16" bikes are cooler than others. This baby has some kinda moped rims and 16 x 2.125 tires. And only 56 lbs! Rode it to work today.
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Snowing already?
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Snowing already?
I think this is a pic from a half year ago. If you zoom in on the window you can see that the date on the newspaper the person is reading shows Jan 28, 2013.
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Old 07-31-13, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BassNotBass
I think this is a pic from a half year ago. If you zoom in on the window you can see that the date on the newspaper the person is reading shows Jan 28, 2013.
but, Bass, that zoom feature is only in the latest version of Adobe Bridge. most people arent going to have that. but, they can download the latest version of Safari™ right click on the image and select "view object in alternate locations" or simply keystroke "command + shift + tab + control + option + [capital] A". pretty cool:



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Old 07-31-13, 11:05 AM
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You're right, that is cool. I just checked it on one of my virtual machines running OSX with the Safari browser. It seems very similar to KDE's Konqueror beta plugin unofficially known as Q-Mull (Quantum Multiverse Link).
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Old 07-31-13, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by social suicide
Some 16" bikes are cooler than others. This baby has some kinda moped rims and 16 x 2.125 tires. And only 56 lbs! Rode it to work today.

I think that bike would crush the nose of 1972 Caddy Coupe De'Ville if it hit you yet you could continue on your merry way.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
The Brompton 349 rim will take a narrower Kojak slick tire too.
The slick kojaks are *really* nice on the Brompton. Unfortunately, I got a flat on my Brompton using kojaks one week, and a flat on my BF using kojaks the other, so I decided that they no longer met my needs, despite how nicely they rode. I switched (back) to Marathons (non-supreme); the only flat I've gotten with those was when I ran over a tack.

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Some 16" bikes are cooler than others. This baby has some kinda moped rims and 16 x 2.125 tires. And only 56 lbs! Rode it to work today.
That bike is calling out for banana seat.
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I was thinking, since the rack has a sissy bar, use it for maybe a stuffed plush Tiger or Bear..
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No banana. This is a serious bike!
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16" wheel bikes are "twitchier" than 20" wheels.

At the same time they are also more maneuverable.
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Originally Posted by Shahmatt
16" wheel bikes are "twitchier" than 20" wheels.
That depends on the frame they're attached to.
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Originally Posted by BassNotBass
That depends on the frame they're attached to.
Don't really agree with this. The "twitchiness" comes from the smaller wheel underneath the steering column. The headset has less wheel mass to rotate. It has little to do with the frame.
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Originally Posted by Shahmatt
Don't really agree with this. The "twitchiness" comes from the smaller wheel underneath the steering column. The headset has less wheel mass to rotate. It has little to do with the frame.
A large portion of the steering characteristics are a result of rake and trail. The wheelbase length plays a small part as well.
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Originally Posted by BassNotBass
A large portion of the steering characteristics are a result of rake and trail. The wheelbase length plays a small part as well.
What about those monster wheels and tires, would that either make it more stable or less stable? I haven't seen a small bike with wheels of that width.
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'Pneumatic trail' is a result of the size and shape of the tire's contact patch.
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True, but don't forget pneumatic scrub radius and king pin inclination.

I don't think about my contact patch too much, but patch contact is an important consideration when repairing a flat.
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Originally Posted by BassNotBass
A large portion of the steering characteristics are a result of rake and trail. The wheelbase length plays a small part as well.
Didn't know this. Thanks for the link.
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Originally Posted by Pinigis
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Yes, the gearing on a 16" will be different to accommodate the smaller wheels; this often means a larger crank wheel.
yes...often...usually...but not on the Origami Wasp.
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Originally Posted by Abu Mahendra
yes...often...usually...but not on the Origami Wasp.
The Wasp is not designed for speed, it is a commuter. But, as we have shown, you can swap the chainring for a huge boost in gear-inches.
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Originally Posted by Pinigis
The Wasp is not designed for speed, it is a commuter. But, as we have shown, you can swap the chainring for a huge boost in gear-inches.

Get real, Pinigis. The Wasp is woefully, dreadfully under-geared out of the box, due to the pathetic 48T chainring and the 14T low sproket. You either know that, and hope people will buy, figuratively and literally, your BS, or you have no sense of the gear range needed for normal bike riding. Commuting on a Wasp will get one fired for chronic tardiness getting to the office.

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Originally Posted by Abu Mahendra
Get real, Pinigis. The Wasp is woefully under-geared. You either know that, or you have no sense of the gear range needed for normal bike riding.
There is not one single gear ratio that is appropriate for every use. We offer the stock Wasp with a low gearing because of the expected use of the bike. But, it is simple to swap the chain ring for higher gearing.

One of our customers is a pilot who uses his Wasp to travel around the airport and to carry in his plane. His priorities were 1: a very compact fold, 2: a bike that can be ridden "no hands". The Wasp perfectly met his needs.
My son rides the Wasp on 15 to 30-mile trips with the stock gearing; it meets his riding style well.
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Originally Posted by ttakata73
Smaller tires usually means smaller wheelbase too, so you want to ride slower.
I don't ride fast on folding bikes so I went with the smaller 14 and 16" bikes for ultimate portability.
But.. Not all folding bike Mfgr do that, not pictured is those that don't.


Their designers made the wheel base the same as a larger wheel bike..

20" wheel, 406 would rank up with 26" 559 for ability to find spare tires
in most places, because of their popularity for Kids /MX bikes.




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