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Panasonic Traincle

Old 06-17-14, 05:58 AM
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Panasonic Traincle



i enjoyed the hunt for this folding bike and the parts needed for the build. now it is done and i would like to share it with you.

cheers! :-)
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Old 06-17-14, 03:30 PM
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Nice! What's it weigh?
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Old 06-17-14, 04:17 PM
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in current configuration (capreo front hub, capreo rear hub and gears, dura ace RD and crankset, brooks saddle, tektro calipers, sturmey shifter, gran compe brake levers), the weight is 8.8 kilos (19.4 pounds).

the panasonic traincle, they say, was (maybe still is) the lightest folding bike in the world.
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Old 06-17-14, 04:24 PM
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As far as production bike weights, quite a few recent Dahons have weighed less than the Traincle - I believe the Helios XX weighed at 7.8 kg w/o pedals. Custom, you can always get a Bike Friday Super Pro which probably dangles around the 15 lb. level depending on size. But this Triancle is an awesome bike, and I'd imagine the ride with ti is pretty nice.
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Old 06-17-14, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bargainguy View Post
As far as production bike weights, quite a few recent Dahons have weighed less than the Traincle - I believe the Helios XX weighed at 7.8 kg w/o pedals. Custom, you can always get a Bike Friday Super Pro which probably dangles around the 15 lb. level depending on size. But this Triancle is an awesome bike, and I'd imagine the ride with ti is pretty nice.
you are correct. with new technology, there are lighter bikes in the market.

i rode the bike after the build and small as it was, the ride was solid. it was also pretty quick because of the combination capreo gear and 53t crank. :-) i am happy with the result.
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Old 06-17-14, 04:51 PM
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i will probably bring the weight down some more if i change the saddle and the wheelset (the original ones were distorted so i had to replace with a new 14 inch wheelset). i also read that the tires and inner tubes (panasonic brand) were made specifically for the traincle that it was lighter than any 14inch ones during its time. maybe i should search harder for those tires and inner tubes.
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Old 06-18-14, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by marxmini View Post
the panasonic traincle, they say, was (maybe still is) the lightest folding bike in the world.
The lightest as far as I know is the FSIR Spin (I bought one recently, see here). Frame is 1,3kg. Standard config is 6.9kg. There is this weight weenie build at 4.9kg. Single speed. There is a 3 speed option which would ad 500g approx.
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Old 06-18-14, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pibach View Post
The lightest as far as I know is the FSIR Spin (I bought one recently, see here). Frame is 1,3kg. Standard config is 6.9kg. There is this weight weenie build at 4.9kg. Single speed. There is a 3 speed option which would ad 500g approx.
hands down, the newer 14inch folding bikes with single speed will be lighter :-) but nothing beats the allure of a titanium folding bike.
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Old 06-18-14, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by marxmini View Post
hands down, the newer 14inch folding bikes with single speed will be lighter :-) but nothing beats the allure of a titanium folding bike.
Thank you for sharing.

You've done very well!
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Old 06-18-14, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cplager View Post
Thank you for sharing.

You've done very well!
thank you. had i not seen the photo of the triancle here in bike forums, i probably won't have this folding bike now.
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Old 06-26-14, 03:16 PM
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this is very cool. i wouldn't change anything on it except the saddle (selle italia ti rails maybe) and the tires. apparently, the original tires sacrificed durability for weight savings. akamatsu had a self-branded run of these made by panaracer with improved durability. they sell them and so does wadacycle.





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Old 06-27-14, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by smallwheeler View Post
this is very cool. i wouldn't change anything on it except the saddle (selle italia ti rails maybe) and the tires. apparently, the original tires sacrificed durability for weight savings. akamatsu had a self-branded run of these made by panaracer with improved durability. they sell them and so does wadacycle.





thanks for the appreciation and the information. i will try to order the tires from akamatsu. :-) i have been searching for the proper selle italia or selle san marco saddle and all i have seen are black with white letters. i prefer an all black saddle like the selle italia flite 1990 but unfortunately there are none in the local bike stores. i may have to order online. :-)
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Old 08-16-15, 01:53 PM
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Hi! I recently went to Kyoto, Japan and got myself one of these Traincles. Model B-PEHT423 with a carbon fork. I was thinking of upgrading to a rear derailleur system from the single speed. Is your derailleur hanger a bolt-on? How did you attach it? Any drilling required?
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Old 08-17-15, 08:20 AM
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rd hanger is bolt on. no drilling necessary. good luck on the conversion.
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Old 08-17-15, 08:44 AM
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Holy cr*p that's pricey! rather have a Moulton, I do like it though! - PANASONIC Folding Bicycle 14inch Titanium Alloy Super Light Frame 6.9kg NEW! | eBay
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Holy cr*p that's pricey! rather have a Moulton, I do like it though! - PANASONIC Folding Bicycle 14inch Titanium Alloy Super Light Frame 6.9kg NEW! | eBay
Which is why all the speculation for the Ti Helix at sub $1500 retail for a 10 speed setup.. looking forward to the Helix project .. hope it can succeed ..
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Old 08-24-15, 03:49 AM
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Holy cr*p that's pricey! rather have a Moulton, I do like it though! - PANASONIC Folding Bicycle 14inch Titanium Alloy Super Light Frame 6.9kg NEW! | eBay
Ebay seller asking $3200 . . . I picked up mine at Yodabashi Camera, after the Duty Free discount and the Visa card discount, it came out to under $2000. I bought it in person, of course, when I was in Japan. And the current dollar/Yen exchange rate is very favorable. I think if you pay full retail in Japan it's about $2300.

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Old 08-25-15, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bokenikon View Post
Ebay seller asking $3200 . . . I picked up mine at Yodabashi Camera, after the Duty Free discount and the Visa card discount, it came out to under $2000. I bought it in person, of course, when I was in Japan. And the current dollar/Yen exchange rate is very favorable. I think if you pay full retail in Japan it's about $2300.
you got it at a good price. congratulations. i got mine used at 750usd (single speed). after upgrades, it came out to approximately 1000usd.
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The latest Traincle comes with a titanium fork, claimed weight is 6.3kg. The design of the fork looks a bit Brompton-like, but is polished to match the rest of the frame. The one I tried had a titanium BB and axles as well. I'm tempted, but between my guitar collection and my numerous bikes, my wife is probably not going to be very happy at my getting yet another toy.
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I have never seen Titanium spot welded like it is on the rear seat stays---interesting.

Great project, thanks for posting.
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