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Originally Posted by mconlonx
(Post 17896124)
Counterpoint: I used to do a fairly hilly commute and didn't mind doing it on a Nexus 8 IGH. Besides the range -- no matter how I geared it, I was always looking for either more top end or low end gearing. The drag of the internals wasn't really an issue I noticed, anymore than the slight drag from the dyno front hub. I imagine that an Alfine 11 would address the gearing issue somewhat, and I even rigged up a double-chainring --> Nexus 8 setup, but sold it shortly after without trying it out on an actual commute.
But now I ride a derailleur drivetrain bike. Part of the switch is that I learned to work on der drivetrains, so adjustments are no longer an issue. And for my uses of a folder, the 1x10 drivetrain on the Helix would be fine, especially with a wide range cass out back. It's all good, no matter what you're using for a drivetrain, but for the price, I would save a few bucks and get the der drivetrain Helix. OTOH, I'd get either of the Downtube belt drive IGH bikes because they are such a screaming deal... The NuVinci has the worst drag, but I can feel the some even with my Rohloffs. I don't mind the Seattle hills with most of my IGH hubs except the Nexus 7 and NuVinci, at 32-24 gear inches with my current setups, I'm not spinning anywhere steep with those hubs. My Rohloffs go down to 17 and 19 gear inches and I can spin up any hill in this area with them. |
No thanks, My $600 foldie Is just fine,,,,$1300~$1600,, for a foldie,,LoL
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Originally Posted by ShortLegCyclist
(Post 17896299)
And I used to ride only derailleur bikes and now almost entirely IGH.
The NuVinci has the worst drag, but I can feel the some even with my Rohloffs. I don't mind the Seattle hills with most of my IGH hubs except the Nexus 7 and NuVinci, at 32-24 gear inches with my current setups, I'm not spinning anywhere steep with those hubs. My Rohloffs go down to 17 and 19 gear inches and I can spin up any hill in this area with them. |
Originally Posted by osco53
(Post 17896824)
No thanks, My $600 foldie Is just fine,,,,$1300~$1600,, for a foldie,,LoL
Hint: They don't exist. Willing: To be proved wrong. |
Originally Posted by jur
(Post 17897735)
Show me ANY road bike, titanium frame, with that level of compentry on it, for $1300~$1600.
...and they fold! |
Originally Posted by osco53
(Post 17896824)
No thanks, My $600 foldie Is just fine,,,,$1300~$1600,, for a foldie,,LoL
The Helix looks interesting, or at least the marketing does. If they can launch it as presented at their price point it will be worth checking out. With the larger wheels and ti frame it should't require suspension to have a decent ride. Like CF, the more mainstream ti gets the better for everyone. |
Originally Posted by osco53
(Post 17896824)
No thanks, My $600 foldie Is just fine,,,,$1300~$1600,, for a foldie,,LoL
There are many folders worth investing in other than a cheap commuter bike. They can really preform and go off road, I have a downhill BMW moutain bike. Spending more on a folding bike than the ridgid bike offen means it opens up more cycling opputunies with a bike that is comparable to a ridgid bike. |
Haven't been on this thread for a bit... so, ah, the consensus is that the 1X10 is better overall than the Alfine 8 or 11? My only reference is my 6 speed Brompton, and I suspect that's not the best reference.
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I don't think "better" is the right word... some people want more of an urban bike while others are more interested in minimising weight while retaining gear range... or simply like a derailer better... although $100 for a Zee rear hub, cassette, shifter and derailer seems like not bad pricing... assuming these are all Zee branded.
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I sent Peter Boutakis an email asking for an update on the Helix folder... here is the reply I got from him. Still looks to be an interesting bike...
Anyone interested in an older Pacific Reach Trail, Downtube VIII or original Downtube Mini in mint green? Gotta raise some cash somehow... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Pine Cone, thank you for your interest in Helix. Since our last blog post we have had to spend some time making updates to out patent applications to account for slight design changes. We have also completed and submitted our Kickstarter campaign for review and approval. Once the project is approved we will announce the official launch date. We are planning to bring Helix to Kickstarter this month. Details regarding our production schedule will be included on our Kickstarter page. Thank you for your patience during this difficult start up period. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any more questions. Best Regards, Peter Boutakis, Founder Helix Folding Bike peter@ridehelix.ca http://www.ridehelix.ca |
I was very interested in this bike, but the Kickstarter time stretch, and that it is still in a quantum state, led me to pick up the BD-1 instead. Some interesting design and engineering ideas, but my experience with the GoBike has made me a bit gun shy...
Maybe in a year or so and some used ones start showing up I'll revisit it. |
Double post.
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Marking.
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Still curious about this bike myself, and just saw on their website that they will resume taking orders come Winter 2017.
Anyone know if any bikes have been delivered yet? |
None yet. They are getting close now. The original plan of teaming up with a company was abandoned (reasons unknown) and a factory is being set up. I still believe they will pull it off. (there is another Helix thread with more info.)
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