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Old 11-22-15, 04:51 AM
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there is a great wine app-"delectable." gives you the opportunity to wander around the wine world...whether it be by what people are drinking, varietal, specific wine, etc. highly recommended and free.
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Old 11-22-15, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyG View Post
My advice is to find a wine retailer who does wine tastings and go along regularly if you really want to broaden your wine knowledge. I go to wine tastings nearly every week. You learn a lot. What I like others think is ordinary and vice a versa. Some wines are made to drink young, others will only be great wines after many years of ageing. Money isn't always a great arbiter of great wine. I've tasted some GREAT wine which was inexpensive and some expensive wine which was kind of ordinary.

TO be honest, expensive wine is only really for people who have enough money that its not really expensive. A $100 bottle of wine is never 5 times better than a $20 bottle of wine.

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1. definitely. taste amap. even if it's not a style or varietal you like. why don't you like it? is there something admirable about the wine? is it true to type or does it break away
from the norms of the style/varietal? is it worth the price? is it a food wine and if so, what to pair with?

2. plenty of overpriced swill (mostly from underachieving, old-guard wineries). plenty of great juice from young punks consciously undercutting the market/pricepoints and taking a loss
to gain traction/notice in their first few vintages until they get...overpriced.

3. generally but not always. can you really place a price on a wine that goes places you never dreamed possible? out of tens of thousands of wines i've tasted, i've had a handful of sub-$20 bottlesthat made me say "holy s**t!" nearly always, it was because the wine got a bad/incorrect review in a major wine publication and had been subsequently discounted by the winery even though
the wine itself was top-notch. i've had hundreds of wines in the $25-$100 range and $100+ that were both world-class and an epiphany. the law of diminishing returns comes into play but a question i ask
myself often is "would i rather have one bottle of this dynamite, expensive wine or a case of another wine (for the same price) that is simply fantastic and tremendous bang for the buck.
75% of the time, i'd go with the case wine. the 25%...go beyond happiness and satisfaction. they are unforgettable and may unlock your inner poet. at this point, there are plenty of $100+ a bottle
(retail) wines i would gladly pay for but it's a few times a year and when i want to enter that stratosphere, nothing else will do.
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Old 11-22-15, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
Heard a good line decades ago.

"Wine is like sex. When it's good, it's great. When it's bad, it's still pretty good".

Thus I'll drink anything
some wines are better than sex. if you don't believe it, you haven't had the right wines. i've had the right partners. the key is to double-dip and do both.
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Old 11-22-15, 07:56 AM
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I make my own, therefore, every glass is made to perfection. I make it as sweet or as dry as i like. I make it as strong or as weak as I want. And the best thing is I don't run out. My favorites are Cabernet Sauvignon and Pinot Noir, but I like to make a good gewurztraminer or Moscato for a change, or for friends or family that like a sweeter white.

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Old 11-22-15, 08:05 AM
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Louis Jadot is a solid, reasonable priced French brand. It's one of my go to's when I'm not sure what to buy.
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Old 11-22-15, 09:52 AM
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This just arrived from France, https://www.facebook.com/CalandrosSu...type=3&theater

Beaujolais Nouveau. The ad in the link is a market near you, I think.
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I 'grade' wines based on the type, such as pinot noir, chablet, etc. I prefer the bold, rich flavor of cabernet, and don't find white wines appealing at all. FWIW: I've been told white wines are harder to make, as the fermenting process needs to be watched a little more closely than reds since the bolder flavor of reds will mask any production of vinegar-y flavors; maybe that's what turns me off of white wines.

I also like a full, rich, 'brewed' drink, and my favorite is a deep, rich, dark pint of Guiness. Yummy!!!
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Originally Posted by Jadesfire View Post
Thanks! Any particular one by chance?
I always forget the names but recognize the labels. Here are a couple inexpensive (around $8-$12) I like off the top of my head.
Niel Santofimia
Evodia garnacha
Monte Antico (blend of sangiovese, merlot and cabernet)
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Originally Posted by spoiledrotten View Post
I make my own, therefore, every glass is made to perfection. I make it as sweet or as dry as i like. I make it as strong or as weak as I want. And the best thing is I don't run out. My favorites are Cabernet Sauvignon and Pinot Noir, but I like to make a good gewurztraminer or Moscato for a change, or for friends or family that like a sweeter white.

Cheers!



Do you buy the wine making kits? If so what brand? I saw some in a beer/wine brewing store near work recently and was curious about them although I've never made wine before, just beer.
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Originally Posted by colorider View Post
I always forget the names but recognize the labels. Here are a couple inexpensive (around $8-$12) I like off the top of my head.
Niel Santofimia
Evodia garnacha
Monte Antico (blend of sangiovese, merlot and cabernet)

I'll keep an eye out for these. Thanks again!
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Old 12-01-15, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
some wines are better than sex. if you don't believe it, you haven't had the right wines. i've had the right partners. the key is to double-dip and do both.
Yeah, right now there are more evenings with wine then sex, so I guess this is true.

Ive had some pretty good wines, having spent some long periods of time in France where my wife was working, where the locals had us drinking extensively, as well as extended vacations in Tuscany and Umbria. I mean, how is it possible to drink that much wine in France and Italy and still run a semi civilized country ?. I well recall sending back the local house wine at a restaurent in Spoletto in favor of the bottle(s) of Montefalco, which I STILL CANNOT FIND LOCALLY !, sigh.
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Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Do you buy the wine making kits? If so what brand? I saw some in a beer/wine brewing store near work recently and was curious about them although I've never made wine before, just beer.
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A winery here in Eugene makes a delightful wine called "Spoiled Rotten". A delicious desert wine made from late harvest (very late) Chardonnay fruit. Read about it here, pricey but very good.
https://www.territorialvineyards.com/..._SellSheet.pdf
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