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Old 12-25-15, 09:27 AM
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Waca waca no waca ... right after wedding ... could it be a relay?

So, me and Mrs Rube were coming back from wedding, stopped to pick some relatives and the waca waca refused to start. It also stopped doing anything electrical, no radio, no lights no nothing. I got car towed. Next day I went to take a look, and it started right away like nothing ever happened. The worked fine all day and at night it did the electrical tantrum once more. This 2nd time I unplugged the battery, plugged it back in at it started.

My reasoning is:

Can't be a fuse because it started afterwards just fine.
Can't be the battery because everything worked fine afterwards.
Must be electrical because the symptoms were the same as taking the battery out.

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Battery poles are pretty new and I keep them clean and tight. Yet, the only thing I fiddle with was the positive pole, when I disconnected it and plugged it back in, which somehow seems to reset whatever electrical mishap is going on.

I believe the started relay cuts power to everything BUT the starter when you are cranking the engine. If this guy is getting stock in a mid-position, it would explain what the car is doing.

whachu think?
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Definitely sounds like a relay or something, though the couple of starter relays I've dealt with have never caused complete power loss. Obviously cars vary. Only other thing I'd think to check, assuming the battery cables are good, would be ground cable.
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Didn't mention what kinda waca ya got, but eons ago, a gf of mine had a VW that seemed to have a mind of it's own... turned out to be a few corroded ground connections spread about here and there... cleaned 'em up, and VW became reliable after that.

Check for loose and dirty ground connections.
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Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
whachu think?
Evil Ghosts or Spirits.

Once a friend of mine, my girlfriend and I were driving in my stepmother's bug through the Malibu Mountains. Without warning, the car stopped running. The friend was a talented amateur mechanic. He and I went poking through the engine, trying to turn it over, trying to find anything wrong, without success. After about 15 minutes, my girlfriend, who claimed to be a white witch, piped up that the car would start now.

We tried it and it did. We drove on without incident.

So is there a new Mrs. Rube? The girl from Arkansas?
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Shorted battery, or
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
eons ago, a gf of mine had a VW that seemed to have a mind of it's own... turned out to be a few corroded ground connections spread about here and there... cleaned 'em up, and VW became reliable after that.

Check for loose and dirty ground connections.
+1 Look for corroded and dirty electrical connections.

Years ago I when I was a Taxi driver we were having persistent intermittent electrical problems with one of the Taxi's. It was going to the electricians weekly but they couldn't find the fault. The breakdown service was getting sick of us and blaming us for not taking it to the auto electricians. One of the breakdown guys finally fixed it. It was a corroded/dirty connection on the leads coming out of the ECU going to the spark plugs.

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What year vehicle are we talking about? Some Hyundais had problems with the ground cables and cleaning the frame end would be the ext thing I would look at. Right after cleaning off the kitchen table.
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When I saw the title, I thought this thread was going to be something very different...

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Originally Posted by chewybrian View Post
When I saw the title, I thought this thread was going to be something very different...

Rube has had this car forever. Waca Waca is the sound it made with the very first problem it had years ago. He would always post threads about how he worked on the engine parts in the kitchen sink or the kitchen table. We ended up naming the car Waca Waca.

That being said, I say ignition kill?
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Hum, I didn't thought about the ground wires at first but now I'm leaning that way. The waca waca (a 2000 hyundai accent for those who don't know) has been acting up twice since my last post. The second time it was resolved by taking out the positive pole on the battery and plugin in back in. But the 3rd time that didn't worked. Then I tinkered with the negative post and it started.

When the problem happens, I still experience complete electrical loss... no radio, no flashers, no cabin light, nothing. I'm gonna disassemble the ground connections on my weekend and see if the problem goes away.

I yes, there's a new Mrs. Rube... yes, the Arkansas girl
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New Mrs Rube? When did this happen?
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Hum, I didn't thought about the ground wires at first but now I'm leaning that way. The waca waca (a 2000 hyundai accent for those who don't know) has been acting up twice since my last post. The second time it was resolved by taking out the positive pole on the battery and plugin in back in. But the 3rd time that didn't worked. Then I tinkered with the negative post and it started.

When the problem happens, I still experience complete electrical loss... no radio, no flashers, no cabin light, nothing. I'm gonna disassemble the ground connections on my weekend and see if the problem goes away.

I yes, there's a new Mrs. Rube... yes, the Arkansas girl
When you say "when the problem happens..." is that as you are turning the ignition key? If so, sure, you are prettying a heavy load on the entire system when you go to start... and if the connections needed to deliver the power to the system are not good, then everything will go dark.

What is the age of the battery... if it is over 2-3 years, the battery itself might be suspect... but first check, and clean, the cable connections to the battery terminals. It is amazing how something as simple as a bit of terminal corrosion can make a huge difference in the amount of current being delivered to the whole waca waca system.

Use a wire brush to make all those battery terminal connections clean... as well as the clamps that hold the cables on the terminals. And then make sure the connections are tight... you should not be able to wiggle them at all.

Then follow both the heavy cables down to their next connection, and ensure that those too are tight and clean. Beyond that... you have the whole waca waca electrical system.

Oh, not sure about your vehicle, but I do know that some have a fuse in a smaller charger line right at the positive connection to the battery... if that has blown or is dirty... you are not getting suitable charging to the battery... and if the battery is in great shape, it will recover somewhat between uses, but in the short term, you will have intermittent problems. Starts now, runs... but hours later no good... but next day it works. That sort of thing. Of course you should have a "charge" indicator light on the dash... but if the fuse is just dirty... there may be just enough current to keep that little light off.

That is the biggest issue with corrosion type problems... sometimes they let things work, other times not...
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New Mrs Rube? When did this happen?
Coming back to look at this I realized we overlooked something very important. Congrats on the new Mrs. Rube!
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