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Old 01-20-16, 08:24 AM
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Hats/Caps/Beanies Indoors**********?

I think I'm turning into a curmudgeon. I'm 51 years old and can't get used to men and boys wearing hats/caps/beanies indoors. From my childhood, I remember my grandpa instructing me not to wear a hat indoors. Later in life, as a USAF officer, I obviously didn't wear my cover indoors. Today, I see men and boys wearing their cover everywhere including the sanctuary of our church during Sunday morning services. Anyone have an opinion on this?
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It's just another benchmark in the steady decline of western civilization.
If you're ex-military you may also lament the failure to keep buttons buttoned. Notably coat and pants pockets.
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Old 01-20-16, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bargeon View Post
It's just another benchmark in the steady decline of western civilization.
If you're ex-military you may also lament the failure to keep buttons buttoned. Notably coat and pants pockets.
Not so much on the buttons thing. However, I was a flyer, so my uniform world was all about zippers. I got out in 1991 and for at least a couple years after that, when I left a building, I would occasionally absentmindedly reach down to my right calf to retrieve my cover from the spot where it had been stored back in my flight suit days.
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Funny how that stuff stays with you.
A stint in the military would probably do a lot of these kids good these days.
Oh, and welcome to the curmudgeon club. It only gets worse
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My workshop is not heated, so when it's 40 inside, I'm wearing a hat. But in public spaces, I find myself instinctively taking the hat off when entering a building. Chalk me up as an old guy, I guess.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
My workshop is not heated, so when it's 40 inside, I'm wearing a hat. But in public spaces, I find myself instinctively taking the hat off when entering a building. Chalk me up as an old guy, I guess.
I understand when it's out of necessity, but I can't get used to it just for fashion's sake. It is especially bothers me to see it in church, especially during the Sunday morning service. I guess I'm an old fogey too.
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Old 01-20-16, 10:11 AM
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It probably wouldn't be much of a surprise to know that I don't really like to see guys wearing ball caps turned backwards either unless there's a need to do it.
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Originally Posted by kknh3 View Post
I think I'm turning into a curmudgeon. I'm 51 years old and can't get used to men and boys wearing hats/caps/beanies indoors. From my childhood, I remember my grandpa instructing me not to wear a hat indoors. Later in life, as a USAF officer, I obviously didn't wear my cover indoors. Today, I see men and boys wearing their cover everywhere including the sanctuary of our church during Sunday morning services. Anyone have an opinion on this?
Do you miss neck ties too?

Perhaps some of the old formalities were just a bit much eh? I never did understand the need or utility of a necktie...

Hats and scarves indoors... what is the indoor temp? Is there a large fire blazing in the hearth over the stone floor at the castle, or perhaps the thermostat is turned down a bit to economize... and the hat and scarf merely ward off the chill.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
My workshop is not heated, so when it's 40 inside, I'm wearing a hat. But in public spaces, I find myself instinctively taking the hat off when entering a building. Chalk me up as an old guy, I guess.
I have done that routinely too, but as of late, have begun to wonder if the hat is preferable to the hat hair mess on my head...
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Originally Posted by kknh3 View Post
It probably wouldn't be much of a surprise to know that I don't really like to see guys wearing ball caps turned backwards either unless there's a need to do it.
Now on that, I can relate... and sideways just drives me nuts.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Do you miss neck ties too?

Perhaps some of the old formalities were just a bit much eh? I never did understand the need or utility of a necktie...

Hats and scarves indoors... what is the indoor temp? Is there a large fire blazing in the hearth over the stone floor at the castle, or perhaps the thermostat is turned down a bit to economize... and the hat and scarf merely ward off the chill.
Let's leave any temperature issues out of it and just address it from a "fashion" and/or etiquette perspective.
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if its a formal gathering, yeah no hats. if you're hanging out at home and watching the game and want your sports team hat on - why not? i'm also not going to take it off to walk around the grocery store or anything either.

i also where a knit hat inside sometimes during the winter because it helps keep me just a little warmer. besides, if The Edge can do it, so can i.
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Originally Posted by kknh3 View Post
Let's leave any temperature issues out of it and just address it from a "fashion" and/or etiquette perspective.
Well the fact is that hats of old are out of fashion... and currently in fashion are ball caps... unless it is cold, then all sorts of hats come into vogue.

If the hat is simply being worn for fashion, IE military and the like... then convention (etiquette) should be followed. But if the hat is worn for practical reasons, IE it is cold... well, practicality falls in line.

The thing is, I rarely see hats worn, except to support sports teams, or because it is cold... or Texas.

Are hats coming back? Is there a run on Bowlers or Pork Pie hats, or Fedoras? What sort of hats are you seeing that seem to boil your blood?
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Well the fact is that hats of old are out of fashion... and currently in fashion are ball caps... unless it is cold, then all sorts of hats come into vogue.

If the hat is simply being worn for fashion, IE military and the like... then convention (etiquette) should be followed. But if the hat is worn for practical reasons, IE it is cold... well, practicality falls in line.

The thing is, I rarely see hats worn, except to support sports teams, or because it is cold... or Texas.

Are hats coming back? Is there a run on Bowlers or Pork Pie hats, or Fedoras? What sort of hats are you seeing that seem to boil your blood?
I wouldn't say that it boils my blood, but is more of a general irritant. Predominantly, I'm addressing ball caps, bucket hats and beanies. I don't see many men these days wearing what I would call a "dress" hat.
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I'm wearing one Now . a Toque/ watch cap ( back when I stood Bridge wing watches )

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I'm 73 and my parents taught me to remove my hat/cap/visor/beanie/beret/etc. while indoors. This was reinforced during my six years in the Air Force in the sixties.

I'm not judgmental, though, of people who don't remove their covers indoors; it's none of my business.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Do you miss neck ties too?

Perhaps some of the old formalities were just a bit much eh? I never did understand the need or utility of a necktie...
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It's great to clean your glasses. If you don't wear glasses, you don't need a necktie.
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Originally Posted by bargeon View Post
It's great to clean your glasses. If you don't wear glasses, you don't need a necktie.
Unless you're a politician. Then you might need it to keep the foreskin off your face.
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IF its cold/sunny outside and you're coming in for just a short period to pick something up, no issue with wearing a beanie/hat. What I really find odd is why are so many baseball caps worn backwards (visor over the wearer's neck), and why are they so oversized. Probably just the latest fashion, but it looks so stupid to me.
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Hats and scarves indoors... what is the indoor temp? Is there a large fire blazing in the hearth over the stone floor at the castle, or perhaps the thermostat is turned down a bit to economize... and the hat and scarf merely ward off the chill.
It's been 5 outside which means at work the plant cools down to a chilly 90 for the winter. In the summer it's 115. They wear them all day for a 12 hour shift whether winter or summer. These kids aren't wearing winter hats indoors to ward off the chill.

Baseball caps worn backwards doesn't bother me. Very few do that any more. It's the too big so they're pulled down over their ears flat billed sideways wearing that I can't stand. They look ridiculous, but I have to remember, the girls I brought home my parents thought looked ridiculous too when they had to duck their 5 foot frame through the door so the stiff as a board hairsprayed hair didn't bang into the top of the 7 foot doorway. How ridiculous was my business in the front, party in the back hair also.

I don't even want to speak about the man bun these days....
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the op may want to change his avatar.
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american men used to wear nice felt hats, fedoras, bowlers, etc.

this changed with the first president that didn't wear one, jfk. suddenly, men stopped wearing these hats.

i was watching a good wilder flick tonight, 1960's 'the apartment.' in one bar scene, you can see some twenty men all wearing their fedoras inside.

of course, it was a bar, not a church.

up until about the twentieth century, women always covered their hair in church. it was 'the law.'

and muslim women still cover it everywhere outside their own homes.
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I don't understand why you wouldn't wear a hat indoors. If it's not on your head it's more likely to get lost.
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Sometimes I remove my hat. Sometimes I don't. Church, parent's house, courtroom, work, especially the dinner table home or out, anyplace where respect is expected or demanded, I remove my hat. Other places, not so much. I was hanging around in the house with a beanie I had on for walking the dog this AM, for instance.
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Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
the op may want to change his avatar.
Yeah, I know that it does seem that I'm kind of worried about hats indoors doesn't it? The funny part is that I have an 8 x 10 picture from my grade school days that bears an uncanny resemblance to Alfred E Neuman.
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