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Old 03-18-16, 03:39 PM   #1
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any quad copter users here?

I got a cheap smya 5c1 so far I'm very good at chrashing it .so any of u have quads and if so which ones and what do u think of the 5c?
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Old 03-18-16, 04:45 PM   #2
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I've flown a couple of cheaper quads as well as some single blade drones but not that one. Firstly they ALL take practice and flying them indoors isn't easy. Importantly, after the first time you crashed it you probably bent the blades by ever such a small amount so now its not balancing properly.

The very first thing you need to do when flying drones is to get them off the ground and then trim them so they hover in the same spot. If your new to them trying to trim them while they fly into a wall is HARD. You need space.

My recommendation is that your Syma probably needs some new blades and for you to find some space to fly it in with no wind. I'm also going to recommend that you buy yourself a WL Toys v911 micro helicopter to learn on. These are great learners. To be honest they are NOT that easy to fly but what they are is nearly crash proof. They take a hell of a lot of abuse and being so tiny they don't cause that much damage. They're also cheap so when you do end up destroying it another is cheap to buy. By the time you can fly a v911 you should be able to fly something bigger.

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Old 03-18-16, 04:56 PM   #3
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Old 03-20-16, 07:47 PM   #4
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wow it has a set of new blades that cmae with the copter they was taped to back of packaging I throw it away then say blades but the old blades still look great I flew it last night at church .sadly I kept get confused as which way it was going to go when I pushed controllers .and once I could see it as out of rnge I thought itwould fly away but it came back down. ps is it true a headless
copter is easier to control ?
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So many blades. Can it shoot salad?
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Old 03-20-16, 10:40 PM   #6
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Yes you have to go slowly to start with.

I generally flew with mode 2 layout. Mode 2 has the throttle and effectively the rudder on the left with the nose up/down, side up/down on the right in a typical 4channel layout and I assume you drone is 4 channel.

Mode 1 has the throttle on the right and the elevator (nose up/down) on the left.

Mode 2 is more natural for helicopters as its similar to a real aircraft in that the tilt up/down/right/left is on the one joystick which on a real helicopter is the column controlling the swash plate.

Is your control layout mode 1 or 2?

When you start off you need to just get the craft airborne at about a metre at least to get it above ground effect and then trim the controls so that it just sits there in one spot. It may cycle around a little but you don't want it flying off consistently in one direction. You will need to check you manual to figure out how to trim it. Once you have it stable you start to gradually fly it in one direction slightly and then back again to get a feel for the controls.

RC helicopters can be dangerous. People have been killed by them so don't fly anywhere near people until you can control it. Actually flying near people isn't recommended anyway. If the worst comes to the worst and you are losing control then just cut the throttle and let it fall. If you have to fix it later you have to fix it. Fighting to regain control of an out of control aircraft near people is likely to end REALLY badly.

Also, its just a cheap aircraft. In the big leagues guys spend several thousands of dollars and hundreds of man hours building their aircrafts only to completely destroy them on their maiden flights. I still suggest that you purchase a WL Toys V911 to learn on as they are so light that they won't really hurt anyone unless you cop it in your eye.

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Old 03-21-16, 06:14 AM   #8
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cool lots of great info I fly in mode 1 and far from cars and people
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You fly it from VR goggles and an onboard Camera?
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Is the mode adjustable from mode 1 to mode 2?

I find that mode 2 is more intuitive to fly helicopters with than mode 1 although mode 1 is better for fixed wing aircraft. Once you master a mode to fly in you need to stick with it as changing modes is VERY difficult.

Can you get the aircraft to hover in the one spot?

That's the start.

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Is the mode adjustable from mode 1 to mode 2?

I find that mode 2 is more intuitive to fly helicopters with than mode 1 although mode 1 is better for fixed wing aircraft. Once you master a mode to fly in you need to stick with it as changing modes is VERY difficult.

Can you get the aircraft to hover in the one spot?

That's the start.

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yeah I'm ok at hovering and yes it has mode 2 and 1 I have found its range isn't to good lost it earlier I was just about o give up findingit when I walked u 2 street and found it. then on my last flight I had it going where I wanted.its pretty strong I'm on the original blades. ps what would be a upgrade to the copter u told me about above and my syma?
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Well the v911 isn't an upgrade. Its just a super cheap and fun learner. If your getting serious I would talk to people from a local hobby store or clubs in your area.

Before you go too much further you need to decide if your staying with flying mode 1 or if your going to try mode 2. Once you have either mode set in your consciousness that's likely to be it for your flying future. I'd want to talk with someone local to you to see what people are doing in your area.

When it comes to flying mode 1 here's an easy way to think of it. Firstly only fly with 3 controls. On the throttle side ONLY use the throttle for a while. On the same stick as the throttle is the side to side movement but forget about it for a moment. The other control is for forwards/backwards or left/right. Quad copters don't really like bank turns anyway. They turn pretty flat although the side to side control is very useful in a side wind.

SO get used to the three controls first and when you have that down you can start adding the side to side.

AS far as upgrades go high performance helicopters are single blade as they are more manoeuvrable. Basic helicopters are fixed pitch but as you move up they go to variable pitch which are capable of loops and flying upside down.

Before you move up though you need to have decided the mode you are flying and have a solid handle on the 4 basic controls.

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Old 03-22-16, 01:12 PM   #14
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coo ty or ale help I reaaly enjoy the hobby
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Old 03-22-16, 03:11 PM   #15
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would the syma x8 be a upgrade? I wont get it for a while ill learn on my x5
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would the syma x8 be a upgrade? I wont get it for a while ill learn on my x5
I'm not personally familiar with the X8 but it does get good reviews.

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I've only got an ultra mini, was excited about them for a week or two but just dont have time between riding and work and what little bit of a life I have. Maybe I'll get more into it. It looks like there are a bunch of x8 versions. They do seem to be a bit pricier than the 5c. I dont like the solid body tho or fpv to a phone. What videos I've seen doesn't look like you can fly it by the screen that way, its just to see a taste of what video you're getting and those dont go far enough to necessitate first person view. For $125+ you can spend $250 on an eachine falcon which can be flown by LOS and later get goggles for another $250 and be pretty much set. Of course like bikes you might as well spend a G up front.
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Old 03-22-16, 07:45 PM   #19
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I do find if I place it on ground in right direction its way way easier lol
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do the better copters hover better? mine I have to play with throttle a lot
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do the better copters hover better? mine I have to play with throttle a lot
Yes, having to adjust the throttle a lot to keep it in the same place is common. If your VERY careful and very gentle you can just about get the throttle stable in a hover situation.

I expect some of the bigger ones are better but I haven't flown any big ones myself.

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never mind poste link of amazon and it shows up ebay

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I got a really fun cheap one, under $100. I'm also good at crashing it, but it's much easier to fly outdoors lol. I still have the crash guards on the rotors and they REALLY help. So far I've been able to get a few stunts, flips, etc. haven't flown all winter though. Looking forward to the good weather!

as for the hover issue, flight times with batteries are only a few minutes and as the batter winds down you have to up the throttle to get the same level of thrust, not to mention the smaller copters are EXTREMELY susceptible to wind, so hovering means you are still constantly giving control input. this is normal.
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well it broke not ure if its the copter or the remote I hope its the remote since I have 3 more copters on the way plus a big syma x8 that ill add a gopro to
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