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Old 07-25-16, 07:32 PM
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Issue with new asphalt driveway

I had my driveway and pad repaved last Friday. Overall I am pleased with the results with the exception of a few areas. Most of the asphalt is smooth and tight. But there are a few areas where it looks like the aggregate was not mixed properly. One area is fairly large.

There are large bits of gravel that are exposed to the surface very rough. Not only is it unsightly, I am concerned these are potential areas of failure due to freeze thaw and snow blower damage over the winter.

I never had an asphalt driveway before but never noticed this issue on other fresh paved driveways. Is this somewhat normal? Or do I have a valid concern?

If it is an issue of concern, is it still reparable so it will not look like a patch?

I have contacted the asphalt company but so far no response.
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Old 07-25-16, 07:40 PM
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Re roll or use a plate tamper but it has to be a hot sunny day. Your contractor can use a weed burner to heat it up and repack it if they haven't left town already
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Old 07-25-16, 07:55 PM
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They are a fairly large company with 3 locations and good reviews but they do have my money already.


So does it sound like a concern? Or is the issue more cosmetic?

My thinking is they would want to fix it now when it is fairly simple to fix. Asphalt is warranted for a year. I thought I had noticed the patches on Friday, but was not sure. I thought it was just some shading due to cooling. You really couldn't see the gravel till you got right on top of it and Friday was no day to walk the driveway.
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Old 07-25-16, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
They are a fairly large company with 3 locations and good reviews but they do have my money already.


So does it sound like a concern? Or is the issue more cosmetic?

My thinking is they would want to fix it now when it is fairly simple to fix. Asphalt is warranted for a year. I thought I had noticed the patches on Friday, but was not sure. I thought it was just some shading due to cooling. You really couldn't see the gravel till you got right on top of it and Friday was no day to walk the driveway.
First is it asphalt and gravel seal coat or hotmix?



Hotmix



Chip seal

Watch out for these driveway contractors unless they do parking lots and use a steel wheel roller or vibrating tamping machine on it when it's all raked out pretty. There are fly by night guys out there doing this alright but your's sounds like an established contractor.

If it's a big driveway they should be using a laydown machine to put the hotmix down. If it's chip seal they use a distributor truck and paint the liquid asphalt through a spray bar and usually sling the gavel on driveways with a #10 steel grain scoop and rake it smooth. Either way if the gravel doesn't stick or the mix isn't solidly staying put you'll have to dig their patches back up and redo them.

If it's chip seal you'll need somewhat similar gravel from some contractor's rock crusher but you might ask around at a home supply place. You need the liquid asphalt and it's gotta be scalding hot when you pour it and you don't want it too thick. Then you've got to rake off the excess gravel and tamp the gravel into the asphalt somehow before it cools. IOW you probably need someone in the business with some tools to make it purdy and lasting.

If it's hotmix you'll need the material from a contractor's hotmix plant and it's gotta be steaming hot all the way to your house. You've got to find a way to rake that level and tamp it down. Dipping whatever tool you use in diesel keeps the mix from sticking to it. IOW you probably need someone in the business with some tools to make it purdy and lasting.

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Old 07-25-16, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FBOATSB View Post
Re roll or use a plate tamper but it has to be a hot sunny day. Your contractor can use a weed burner to heat it up and repack it if they haven't left town already
Say, I just realized who you were. I used to paint asphalt too. Mostly drove the chip spreader when on seal coat crews though and did hotmix raking etc on those crews too. Lot of raking for parking lot outfits but the hottest was in the summertime in Phoenix. I was much younger then than now.

Perhaps a rosebud tip on a cutting torch if seal coat is what it is. We used to use a long pipe with about a 6" square bottom on it for tamping tight places on hotmix but something like it should work on tamping patch spots in asphalt and gravel seal coat as well. Or just roll it out with your car wherever accessible. (Can't do the car roll with hot mix unless it's cooled to lukewarm.)

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Old 07-26-16, 11:37 AM
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Should have set Cobblestones , instead.
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Can you take a picture of it and post it?

I never laid asphalt like these guys, but I did seal coating, including the crack repair with the melted rubber stuff and a torch, and we even used to cut out sections and patch with hot patch. We did good work that lasted...but the tools required for asphalt got too expensive so my buddy got into concrete, moved away, and I decided to go back to school lol.

But yeah, a picture might really help. Our road in front of our townhouses was just redone a few months back, and it looked odd to me...and where any person has turned their tires while stopped, you can see the change in surface. Don't think it's structural, but it would annoy me if it were my privately owned driveway.
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Vitrified Interlocking Brick Pavers are also Nice , Some smaller NL towns use these .
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Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
They are a fairly large company with 3 locations and good reviews but they do have my money already.

Asphalt is warranted for a year.
It's hard to comment on something we can't see but we can comment on something we can read, "a large company" and a "warranty". I would call them and invite a foreman to come and see what you are concerned about and discuss the matter, right there on your driveway.

If he has a good explanation, accept it. If he agrees with your concern, he will fix it. Give him the chance to make it right.
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+1 If it's a well-established company, they didn't get that way by doing shoddy work, and they care about their reputation and customer satisfaction. Get somebody on the phone or email and if you don't want to make them come out, send them some pictures at least.
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Old 07-27-16, 06:21 PM
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At the end of the day, asphalt is just a temporary surface. Hope you will enjoy seal coating once or twice a year
You don't want it to look like your average neglected MUP, all crumbled along the sides.
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Old 07-31-16, 07:45 AM
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Almost sounds like those areas may have been paved with binder rather than surface course material.
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Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
I had my driveway and pad repaved last Friday. Overall I am pleased with the results with the exception of a few areas. Most of the asphalt is smooth and tight. But there are a few areas where it looks like the aggregate was not mixed properly. One area is fairly large.

There are large bits of gravel that are exposed to the surface very rough. Not only is it unsightly, I am concerned these are potential areas of failure due to freeze thaw and snow blower damage over the winter.

I never had an asphalt driveway before but never noticed this issue on other fresh paved driveways. Is this somewhat normal? Or do I have a valid concern?

If it is an issue of concern, is it still reparable so it will not look like a patch?

I have contacted the asphalt company but so far no response.
A guy was telling me today about something that some national chain hardware stores carry called "Drymix". He said he's done patching with it and that it matches the texture of the original hotmix pretty well. You apply it cold and sticky out of the sack but that's all I know about it.

As far as what FBOATSB mentioned about seal coating every few years: We just sprayed a thin oil-emulsion mixture on parking lots uniformly and slung sand on it with a short handle shovel.....A #10 steel grain scoop from Graingers are perfect (not those long handle shovels they used in "Cool,Hand Luke", lol) There's also got to be some way you could pump-spray the oil-emulsion mixture on a small driveway without the truck. And I don't even know exactly the content of what I painted back then but the information for oil-emulsion road mixtures is out there.

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