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Old 09-04-16, 06:55 PM
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Diesel Smoking: NYT front page

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/05/bu...d-provoke.html

Has a nice slide-show too.
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Old 09-04-16, 07:06 PM
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What's this got to do with bicycles?

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What's this got to do with bicycles?

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a frequent target of coal rollers on the road are cyclists as per a few references in the article
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Best story I've heard here was the time an idiot "rolled coal" on a group of cyclists, and at the next light, one of them caught him and produced a badge.
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Old 09-04-16, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
What's this got to do with bicycles?

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You must not have been unfortunate enough to have experienced a deliberate "rolling coal" incident while riding your bicycle. "Rolling coal",and bicyclists being victims of it, has been discussed many times in A&S.
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You must not have been unfortunate enough to have experienced a deliberate "rolling coal" incident while riding your bicycle. "Rolling coal",and bicyclists being victims of it, has been discussed many times in A&S.
Yup. Been close to the receiving end (evaded the DB via the sidewalk).
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I was just behind a group of riders who were on the receiving end of this back in May. Clearly deliberate.

The California Air Resources Board takes reports of smoking vehicles - but you have to have the license plate. I like to think this would cause the vehicle owner some bureaucratic grief.
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Old 09-05-16, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jimincalif View Post
I was just behind a group of riders who were on the receiving end of this back in May. Clearly deliberate.

The California Air Resources Board takes reports of smoking vehicles - but you have to have the license plate. I like to think this would cause the vehicle owner some bureaucratic grief.
It's been a few years since I've seen any major "rolling coal " incidents in my area, due more in part from serious fines being handed out than from bureaucratic grief.
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Old 09-05-16, 08:31 AM
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I guess they all got their "Make America Great Again" Hats on too ..
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I've experienced one incident of this nature. Totally intentional. The truck passed too close, pulled in front, slowed down so I was close enough for maximum impact, then moved on. Two common themes with incidents of assault verbal or otherwise 'burbs' and pick up trucks. To the best of my recollection, zero intentional incidents within city limits in 40+ years. One ran stop sign in residential cross traffic, in which i nearly t-boned the car. Not sure if intentional, or not on stop sign, but reasonably sure had nothing to do with me. Long before cell phone distractions. Maybe changing the 8 track
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Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
You must not have been unfortunate enough to have experienced a deliberate "rolling coal" incident while riding your bicycle. "Rolling coal",and bicyclists being victims of it, has been discussed many times in A&S.
Nope, I've never been unfortunate enough to have much experience in A&S either.
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“Why don’t you go live in Sweden and get the heck out of our country,” Mr. Blue wrote.” I will continue to roll coal anytime I feel like and fog your stupid eco-cars.”

Some days it feels like we are going back to the dark ages.
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“Why don’t you go live in Sweden and get the heck out of our country,” Mr. Blue wrote.” I will continue to roll coal anytime I feel like and fog your stupid eco-cars.”

Some days it feels like we are going back to the dark ages.


In Illinois it seems, here in California, Mr. Blue would be singing the blues if he decided to fog a few cars around here.
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“Why don’t you go live in Sweden and get the heck out of our country,” Mr. Blue wrote.” I will continue to roll coal anytime I feel like and fog your stupid eco-cars.”

Some days it feels like we are going back to the dark ages.
Several groups seem bent on returning us to the dark ages... and all of them seem to have religious connections of one sort or another.
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It's not just some days, it's part of human nature. Not sure if that has ever moved form the dark ages. Technology just made it more fun to do more stupid stuff, but human nature is still a mix of good and bad.
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It's not just some days, it's part of human nature. Not sure if that has ever moved form the dark ages. Technology just made it more fun to do more stupid stuff, but human nature is still a mix of good and bad.
Hey BAREFOOT... do like to sleep with your feet outside the blanket too?
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Several groups seem bent on returning us to the dark ages... and all of them seem to have religious connections of one sort or another.
Well, I doubt that that sludge-brained nitwit is spiritual or devout in any conventional sense.
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“Why don’t you go live in Sweden and get the heck out of our country,” Mr. Blue wrote.” I will continue to roll coal anytime I feel like and fog your stupid eco-cars.”
I like that guy, he says what's on his mind!!!
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I saw a group ahead of me on a century get it on a rural highway out here in NC. They were busy taking the lane on a "55mph" highway. Those of us who kept nearer the fog line remained undisturbed.
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Hey BAREFOOT... do like to sleep with your feet outside the blanket too?
Not really sure where you're going with that. Maybe if it's really hot? Otherwise no, not really.
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Happened to me inside a tunnel on the 101 in Oregon. I think it is south of Yachats just north of Seal Caves. What a jerk, filled the whole tunnel with smoke.
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Not really sure where you're going with that. Maybe if it's really hot? Otherwise no, not really.
You just seemed to not want to cover your feet...

And frankly I like being bare foot too... I tend to only wear shoes when the ground might be really sharp (glass or thorns) and I find that my feet like to be out of the covers at night. Just wondered if that was true for you too.

Probably should start a separate thread for this, but just happened to notice your sig, and threw that question out.

I do wear shoes for cycling though, as I have a tendency to put a foot down while moving.

Friends used to point to my bare feet on cold rainy ground and say "how?" "Just is."
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I really think it would be entertaining to watch some of these "coal rollers" get a mud hole stomped in them. I would probably hold back anyone who would try to stop it. I really have no tolerance for people who go out and mess with other people just for the sake of messing with them.
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I really have no tolerance for people who go out and mess with other people just for the sake of messing with them.
Some people are just dicks. Goes both ways though, often times cyclists hold the lane when they could move over and not obstruct traffic. I know it's their prerogative I suppose, but it's still an inconvenience to many drivers especially on 55mph roads for example. So sometimes it's retaliation for the inconvenience (but still not warranted!). But the whole coal roaling thing gives all of us truck drivers a bad name. I drive I big F350 but drive very courteously, I'm no show off or redneck or any of that. I don't have any cycling stickers but I do have a 26.2 bumper magnet on my truck, something you don't see everyday. We're not all bad.



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You just seemed to not want to cover your feet...

And frankly I like being bare foot too... I tend to only wear shoes when the ground might be really sharp (glass or thorns) and I find that my feet like to be out of the covers at night. Just wondered if that was true for you too.

Probably should start a separate thread for this, but just happened to notice your sig, and threw that question out.

I do wear shoes for cycling though, as I have a tendency to put a foot down while moving.

Friends used to point to my bare feet on cold rainy ground and say "how?" "Just is."
Oh no problem, usually folks are poking fun at me which is understandable I guess, so was suspicious what you were asking. A little off topic but I guess we are in foo so I'll just mention quick that yeah I do everything barefoot that does not require shoes. I never was earlier in life, but when I got back into running a few years back I had all sorts of leg and foot problems, shin splints, plantar fasciitus, etc. I was looking into why this was happening and how to prevent it, without needing surgeries or injections, or expensive orthotics. I read up on the barefoot movement and was willing to try anything, but it kind of made sense even though I was very hesitant and disbelieving. To make a long story short not only did it help my problems but really strengthened my foot and I've become a much better runner than I thought even possible, even winning some small races and placing at some medium size ones, and I get faster every year. I don't think there is any advantage on the bike, that is just preference to me since I don't wear shoes otherwise. And it keeps me being careful all the time, which is a good thing. Winter is the challenge here, I can run down to around 20ºF outside if it's nice and dry, even can run on hard packed snow. Cycling though has the wind chill effect, I'll cover up in the 50's. I'm mainly a nice weather cyclist though, once it starts getting cold out I move indoors on the rollers just to keep a base going through the winter.

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Some people are just dicks. Goes both ways though, often times cyclists hold the lane when they could move over and not obstruct traffic. I know it's their prerogative I suppose, but it's still an inconvenience to many drivers especially on 55mph roads for example. So sometimes it's retaliation for the inconvenience (but still not warranted!). But the whole coal roaling thing gives all of us truck drivers a bad name. I drive I big F350 but drive very courteously, I'm no show off or redneck or any of that. I don't have any cycling stickers but I do have a 26.2 bumper magnet on my truck, something you don't see everyday. We're not all bad.





Oh no problem, usually folks are poking fun at me which is understandable I guess, so was suspicious what you were asking. A little off topic but I guess we are in foo so I'll just mention quick that yeah I do everything barefoot that does not require shoes. I never was earlier in life, but when I got back into running a few years back I had all sorts of leg and foot problems, shin splins, plantar fasciitus, etc. I was looking into why this was happening and how to prevent it, without needing surgeries or injections, or expensive orthotics. I read up on the barefoot movement and was willing to try anything, but it kind of made sense even though I was very hesitant and disbelieving. To make a long story short not only did it help my problems but really strengthened my foot and I've become a much better runner than I thought even possible, even winning some small races and placing at some medium size ones, and I get faster every year. I don't think there is any advantage on the bike, that is just preference to me since I don't wear shoes otherwise. And it keeps me being careful all the time, which is a good thing. Winter is the challenge here, I can run down to around 20ºF outside if it's nice and dry, even can run on hard packed snow. Cycling though has the wind chill effect, I'll cover up in the 50's. I'm mainly a nice weather cyclist though, once it starts getting cold out I move indoors on the rollers just to keep a base going through the winter.
Back to the foot thing... yeah I have had folks question my sanity when I'm out in questionable weather... and too have had issues with shoes.

Interesting thing w barefoot... when you don't wear shoes all the time, the toes spread out and the whole foot gets stronger. I feel more connected to my environment barefoot... either on land or at sea.

I used to wear sandles at work to get around the social objections... but now retired, so bare foot as much as possible.
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