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Old 02-14-17, 10:02 AM
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anyone else roof raking this year?

this past year, we had mandatory (condo) attic insulation added to cut down on the ice damming. past 25 yrs, I always raked my roof & even with the added insulation still do. just got another extension pole so I can reach even further up the roof than before. but from the ground, with a 3 story condo, that's no easy trick. especially with high winds at nite. this year I've been helping the neighbors next to me. I have the end unit. it may not be perfect but we're doing a lot better than the other buildings. you can see that one person, in another building, is doing some work from their skylight. you can see that where they can reach has fewer ice icicles. I used to do it from my skylight but it doesn't close so well anymore, so I just never open it. got plans to fix it this summer. whenever I suggest the condo board get the snow shovelers to help, they just scoff me off









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I did once this year. In a way, I'm jealous. Cuz that ^^^ means that you've had a genuine winter.

I'll be adding insulation this coming summer. I'm only in a ranch, but have <6" of insulation in the attic. Not sure how much is in the walls...although my heating bills aren't bad. That multi-story raking must be one helluva workout. I usually do it in a sweatshirt, regardless of the temps. Are your soffits open? Maybe some active venting would help. Are the gables vented, and kept clear if so?
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Meh -- we got roofs designed for snow. The main house is pitched well; the addition is structurally capable of bearing the weight. I do enough snow removal from the driveway, I don't even want to consider having to remove it from the roof.
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I did once this year. In a way, I'm jealous. Cuz that ^^^ means that you've had a genuine winter.

I'll be adding insulation this coming summer. I'm only in a ranch, but have <6" of insulation in the attic. Not sure how much is in the walls...although my heating bills aren't bad. That multi-story raking must be one helluva workout. I usually do it in a sweatshirt, regardless of the temps. Are your soffits open? Maybe some active venting would help. Are the gables vented, and kept clear if so?
new soffet vents, new interior insulation vents under the roof. we have ridge vents at the roof peak, so no side gable vents. was at it for 2 hours last night. the snow from this storm was like concrete. I also raked toward the end of the storm the nite before. I wear cycling gear, meaning fleece leggings over jeans sometimes cycling pants. base layer w zip up neck, fleece shirt, waterproof parka (non cycling), glove liners & gloves. this nite I wore a balaclava, the other night wore a Filson Insulated Tin Cloth Cap w fold down ear flaps. these are outstanding BTW. was exhausted & slept like a baby



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Old 02-14-17, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
Meh -- we got roofs designed for snow. The main house is pitched well
Maine? Vermont?
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Maine? Vermont?
Maine. The original House dates to the early 1900s.
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Maine. The original House dates to the early 1900s.
jealous. don't build them like that anymore, huh?
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snow is evil, off the roof with it! but seriously I don't know enough about roof cleats to dispute them
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What's snow?
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You've insulated; but have you [and your fellow condo-ites] had an energy audit? The pros should be able to find the leaks that are contributing to the ice dams. Maybe even more insulation is in order. Did you verify the amount of insulation? My mom recently had [supposedly] 15" added to her attic. My brother went up and found more like 12". Prior to that, my brother and I were contemplating heating cables for her roof, but I suggested more insulation first. (she only had maybe 6") This winter has been quite lame with regards to snow totals...nowhere near enough to confirm that the added insulation eliminated the ice dam problem.

Are those galvanized stacks for fireplaces/pellet stoves?
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have you [and your fellow condo-ites] had an energy audit? The pros should be able to find the leaks that are contributing to the ice dams. Are those galvanized stacks for fireplaces/pellet stoves?
yes we had ppl come in and do that. they supposedly sealed up all the units. had to clean the basement so they could get to the whole circumference where the structure meets the foundation. but honestly they didn't do much with that regard. the stacks are for small heatilator type glass front wood burning fireplaces

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Meh -- we got roofs designed for snow. The main house is pitched well; the addition is structurally capable of bearing the weight. I do enough snow removal from the driveway, I don't even want to consider having to remove it from the roof.
Same two roof design feature on my parents house in VT built in mid-80s
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Old 02-15-17, 06:36 PM
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What's snow?
I figured this thread would be about leaves.
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Old 02-15-17, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jon c. View Post
I figured this thread would be about leaves.

You are from Florida, we are both on the same boat.
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The key is to get the temperature of the underside of your roof as close to the outside air temp as possible. Any combination of insulation and or venting will work. In extreme conditions a true snow roof is ideal. Essentially a second roof above your roof with an air gap between. Rarely done though due to the expense.
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Oh yeah

And I have a very steep roof.

Lots of snow in inland WA state this year.
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ice dam removal company from Minnesota travels to Boston to charge $550.00 pr hr to remove ice dams! yikes!

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Is your house green or brown or red?
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Is your house green or brown or red?
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Then what's up with pics 3&4?
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Then what's up with pics 3&4?
I mentioned one of them previously. "we're doing a lot better than the other buildings. you can see that one person, in another building, is doing some work from their skylight. you can see that where they can reach has fewer ice icicles"

the other building is doing nothing

maybe now is the time to share that some units like ours has a flat ceiling in their top floor great room which adds room for insulation. but many have cathedral ceilings which does not allow for easily adding insulation (& venting) between that ceiling & the roof. they have a plan to lower their ceiling to make room, but not many are doing it cuz of the additional expense. so they still suffer
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