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Recommend me a new gas range

Our hand-me-down 20 something year old gas Kitchenaid range needs major work, multiple igniters, etc... in conversation, my wife indicated that the burners never put out a lot of heat and that the oven broiler was erratic with cooking times.

So OK, new range time. The appliance repair guy recommends Kitchenaid, but I'm open to any suggestions.

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$1000 - $1300 ish
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Oh never mind, the wife "likes the look" of an LG.

I think its a dual bag.
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I have a Thermador 4 burner industrial style range. No bells, whistles, timers. Has a convection fan. Burners get up to 15000 BTUs. No trouble in 15 years.
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I have a couple of year old LG gas 5 burner top. Nice unit, nothing to dislike so far.
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how often do you use 5 burners?
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how often do you use 5 burners?
I asked that question.

"But it's nice to have", was the reply.

My OP was more a question as to what brands are reliable
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Our hand-me-down 20 something year old gas Kitchenaid range needs major work, multiple igniters, etc... in conversation, my wife indicated that the burners never put out a lot of heat and that the oven broiler was erratic with cooking times.

So OK, new range time. The appliance repair guy recommends Kitchenaid, but I'm open to any suggestions.

Thx in advance

I haven't had a gas range in 20 years maybe and I rarely use the electric one, cook almost everything with a microwave oven (and not 'microwave' food mostly, except an occasional tray meal or popcorn, actual scratch cooking)...I'm of little help except I'm not sure about Kitchenaid, I'd get a basic range if you are doing a cooking show or something. there shouldn't be much wrong with a Roper, Magic Chef or Whirlpool, if it meets your needs.


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I would not spend 1000+ on a range, no matter how pretty it looks, and LG, Samsung and other South Korean companies have some problems and a noisy neighbor. Frigidaire is a sister brand of Electrolux and should be as nice as your Eureka vac (they also own that and a lot of others).

GE's appliance division is owned by Chinese company Haier, the government wouldn't let Electrolux buy it. Whirlpool owns Amana and Maytag. Magic Chef was spun off in the merger, the Chinese also own it and Roper is another Whirlpool brand that has been known for value and longevity over the years as well.

Just depends on some research into current reliability and consumer opinions. Is the old one stainless or plain out enameled? A stove is a basic tool. Stick with brands you know better and that have an extensive parts network and can be repaired without hassles. It sounds like you worked that stove to it's end, and that is good actually.

In this case the Whirlpool brands or Electrolux. I'll bet you can find a good one and not spend 1000 bucks, then add another convection or microwave to assist.
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. It sounds like you worked that stove to it's end, and that is good actually.
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On the existing, it has front membrane controls. My cat likes to sit with her front paws on the controls ( she won't be able to do that with the new full grill designs). On one occasion she managed to set the oven to clean. On two other occasions she's pressed the correct combo to set to "sabbath mode", useful if you are orthodox Jewish. Thus we kept the manual at hand.

As a hand me down from my SIL, I had to pay $200 to a plumber to move the rear gas pipe so the new and improved stove would sit tight to the wall. There was nothing wrong with the old one, it just wasn't newer.

Thus while agree that $400 for a basic stove would do me fine, anyone whose married knows that I'll always hear about the one she really liked. It'll be part of the tax refund, so it'll keep the peace.
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how often do you use 5 burners?
The "fifth burner" is in the center of the other four, it is oval shaped. There is a cast griddle that came with the stove that you use with the extra burner. We use it fairly often to make breakfast on weekends.
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Used Restaurant equipment? its made to work all day for many years..
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I would not spend 1000+ on a range, no matter how pretty it looks, and LG, Samsung and other South Korean companies have some problems and a noisy neighbor. Frigidaire is a sister brand of Electrolux and should be as nice as your Eureka vac (they also own that and a lot of others).

GE's appliance division is owned by Chinese company Haier, the government wouldn't let Electrolux buy it. Whirlpool owns Amana and Maytag. Magic Chef was spun off in the merger, the Chinese also own it and Roper is another Whirlpool brand that has been known for value and longevity over the years as well.

Just depends on some research into current reliability and consumer opinions. Is the old one stainless or plain out enameled? A stove is a basic tool. Stick with brands you know better and that have an extensive parts network and can be repaired without hassles. It sounds like you worked that stove to it's end, and that is good actually.

In this case the Whirlpool brands or Electrolux. I'll bet you can find a good one and not spend 1000 bucks, then add another convection or microwave to assist.
Being residents of Iowa and it being the once long time home of Maytag, plus my father in-law spending his career there as an Engineer, my wife and I were dedicated supporters and purchasers of Maytag appliances. Even after the Whirlpool buyout we continued to support the Maytag and Whirlpool brands until the quality of their products became questionable. When we were first married we received appliance hand-me-downs that were two decades plus old that worked without issue for years longer. Replacements of those units worked for 25 years +/- with next to no issues.

The last go-round for us was a Maytag (whirlpool) dishwasher that didn't make 5 years and a Whirlpool refrigerator that was replaced after multiple repairs in two years.

The last few years we have replaced each of the above mentioned and other appliances in our home with LG. A decision we haven't had to question thus far.
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You're buying a kitchen range. Odds are that you're not the one that's going to be using it, so stop and take a moment and think about it.

Imagine that you needed a new bike, and your wife decided that she'd go on some housewife forum and ask a bunch of people who don't ride what kind of bike she should get you. Seriously, work that up in your head, so you have a clear mental picture.

Now, take the wife shopping, and be prepared to nod your head, ask some technical "husband" questions, then validate that the one she likes is the right one to buy. Gas ranges are pretty simple appliances, so things like easy-to-clean, trump the kinds of things you'd ask about more complicated appliances.

BTW- if you seriously want things to consider
, think about your family size, and the size of the pots that will be cooked. I've always done most of the cooking in our household and since the family is small, have rare (very rarely) ever been wanting for more BTU. OTOH -- I truly HATE the stove that came with our home in Cozumel. The lowest heat settings possible are far too high, and gently simmering sauces or other easily burned foods is impossible, unless I place the pots on insulators (which is kinda stupid).

So, remind your wife (don't ask by yourself) that she should think and ask about the maximum and MINIMUM flames possible, or whether it has various sized burners in various positions so she can get the flame BTUs need for how she cooks. Good burner utility trumps all, because that's what actually matters in use.
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You're buying a kitchen range. Odds are that you're not the one that's going to be using it, so stop and take a moment and think about it.

Imagine that you needed a new bike, and your wife decided that she'd go on some housewife forum and ask a bunch of people who don't ride what kind of bike she should get you. Seriously, work that up in so you have a clea mental picture.

Now, take the wife shopping, and be prepared to nod your head, ask some technical "husband" questions, then validate that the one she likes is the right one to buy. Gas ranges are pretty simple appliances, so things like easy to clean trump the kinds of things you'd ask about more complicated questions.
THIS/\ I had a Roper that lasted decades, currently cooking on a Kenmore made in Mexico, two decades old. Parts are still easy to get within 24 hours. Happy wife happy life.
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The "fifth burner" is in the center of the other four, it is oval shaped. There is a cast griddle that came with the stove that you use with the extra burner. We use it fairly often to make breakfast on weekends.
It's the one to rule them all, to find them, to bring them all and in the darkness blind them.

I bought a new Magic Chef fridge and gas range for my last house. I was there for 16 years. They were working when I sold the house. The range's broiler and self-clean no longer worked, but the oven and burners functioned normally.
My current house has a Whirlpool, which so far has been fine. Larger appliances are not durable goods. There's no such thing anymore. It's crap shoot regardless of brand or price. Possibly a marketing plan to reduce costs and sell more extended warranties IMHO.
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Don't buy resturant equipment
Needs a bigger gas pipe than homes have
Meant to be freestanding with nothing near the sides.
Requires a big hood.
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On the existing, it has front membrane controls. My cat likes to sit with her front paws on the controls ( she won't be able to do that with the new full grill designs). On one occasion she managed to set the oven to clean. On two other occasions she's pressed the correct combo to set to "sabbath mode", useful if you are orthodox Jewish. Thus we kept the manual at hand.

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Thus while agree that $400 for a basic stove would do me fine, anyone whose married knows that I'll always hear about the one she really liked. It'll be part of the tax refund, so it'll keep the peace.

If your CAT can operate it, no! Cats can't turn knobs and I don't wanna think about crispy critters...
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Well, ended up with another KitchenAid.

5 burner unit, but they pretty much all are, not sure we'll ever use the center burner, but my wife liked the look of this unit.

I'll read up on convection cooking, that looks like it'll be a good option to have.

Purchased from a local small dealer not a big box. The local guy's price matched the others and the salesman knew his stuff, was completely not pushy and we just got a good vibe from the first minute, thus he made a sale. Gets delivered and installed Friday.
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Well, ended up with another KitchenAid.

5 burner unit, but they pretty much all are, not sure we'll ever use the center burner, but my wife liked the look of this unit. ...
Congrats of a perfect decision. This stove has the one most important feature --- your wife chose it. This means that you're out of it and won't get any static if she finds cause for complaint.

Deb and I have been happily married for 35+ years. One of the unwritten terms of our contract is that while we often shop with each other, we never shop for each other. We may both have input, but the one who'll be using it the most always makes the final decision.
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I have a 5 burner Kenmore. I believe it is LG made. Never use the 5th burner but I love the rest. It is a convection oven which I highly recommend. (It also runs in regular gas oven mode. The regular mode sucks. Very uneven heat. The convection mode and the broiler are first class.)

I believe the price three years ago was ~$1000. It is a joy to cook with and being SS, easy to clean up.

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Not for anything, but I have one of these. (Not a photo of my particular unit.) 1952 Chambers 90-C in buttercup yellow. My dream is to someday have it restored to its full glory.



Beautiful -- just beautiful

I hope to have a space where I can go retro on the appliances like this.
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Check out the Kenmores & LGs. If you don't bake cakes/cookies, skip the convection oven option.
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