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Old 09-25-17, 10:20 AM
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Intel serves up a Cafe Americano

Coffee Lake is almost here. As is so often the case with Intel, if you upgraded in the last year, you are SOL. Your 'old' mobo won't work with Coffee Lake. You will need a 370 mobo.

This will all come down to bang for buck, and with AMD's current pricing, that could be tough on Intel. AMD lets things get hot, Intel prefers to keep it's cool. But in the bang for buck department, that doesn't always work at the cheap but cheerful price points.

Intel will dominate the expensive end of the market ( I know, big surprise). But down lower, they may have trouble.

At the moment, the Ryzen 1600 kicks butt at that price point, and I doubt Intel will cut prices enough to change that.
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i think ill wait for nex gen amd i havent built a new pc in so long
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i think ill wait for nex gen amd i havent built a new pc in so long
That happened earlier this year, its called Ryzen. The 1600 and 1600x both offer a lot of bang for the buck.

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cool i may hve to look into it i wonder if frys still have the crazy cpu mobo combo deals they would sell the cpu cheaper then other stores and give a free mobo. ps amd must love being in all modern game consoles
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Darn. I thought this was gonna be an actual coffee thread...nvrmnd
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It has been very rare indeed that a new generation proc didn't require a different socket than it's predecessor....and memory....sometimes even hard drive format/speed. It's part of the game, it's part of what makes it "better".

AMD isn't fooling anyone. They haven't come out with some magic potion to unseat Intel as king of the heap with Ryzen, they just managed to bring something to market that takes them off high end life support. Certainly made themselves a viable chip in the mid to low high market. I have one and am very impressed. Thing is though, even the current generation of Intel is considered the better chip for the money, for workload.

Further, if you consider real world performance gains it really doesn't pay to upgrade Intel chips until you get about 4 generations out. IIRC the gains between 4-7 were in the ballpark of 30% gains IF you were using the right memory/ssd/etc. Hardly worth shelling money for unless you are just a prestige owner.
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My habit in the past was to upgrade when I could get twice the bang for a couple hundred bucks (passmark).

That is changing, at least for me. I am hoping VR will get to the point where it makes sense to buy it. IMHO, ain't there yet.

So my video card, a 7700, should have the oomph to drive VR for a while, way more expensive than I usually get (although only a bit more expensive than my first gaming card, the 3dfx Voodoo (bows head a moment in respect)).

Had some things get in the way of the CPU/mobo upgrade this summer. Just as well, I think the 1600 has dropped a hundred bucks in price.
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i like the futurmark benchmark
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