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Old 10-02-17, 09:46 AM
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Need to add a second tv

I have Spectrum cable. I am getting a treadmill, and I'd like to be able to watch tv while I drone along.

The easiest way is too add a second cable box, but that would add to my already ridiculously expensive cable bill.

What I would like to do is find a way to send the signal from my existing box to a second tv. I've heard about Roku, I don't understand it. It seems to want to hook up to the internet. I was thinking about something that would simply take the signal from the cable box, and send it to the second tv.

As you can tell, I'm a bit confused.
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Old 10-02-17, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by late View Post
I have Spectrum cable. I am getting a treadmill, and I'd like to be able to watch tv while I drone along.

The easiest way is too add a second cable box, but that would add to my already ridiculously expensive cable bill.

What I would like to do is find a way to send the signal from my existing box to a second tv. I've heard about Roku, I don't understand it. It seems to want to hook up to the internet. I was thinking about something that would simply take the signal from the cable box, and send it to the second tv.

As you can tell, I'm a bit confused.
I believe if you buy a splitter simply attach the incoming cable line to it then you have two outgoing lines to 2 different Tvs. The problem is that you have to watch the same show on both tvs
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Splitter from the output side of the current cable box. You can backfeed that into existing house wiring, or run a new cable from that to the desired outlet point. You may or may not need a signal booster or amplified splitter to see good results.
You will see whatever is on at the source.

If you like you can run an IR repeater and run a remote "eye" along with the cable to be able to change channels from the remote room as well.
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Old 10-02-17, 11:08 AM
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Or you can watch internet-delivered TV on the Roku while on the treadmill.
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Roku doesn't know anything about your cable, but it will deliver anything from the internet (or your LAN) to your TV, including Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, GooglePlay, tons of free channels (usually with commercials) including NBC/ABC/CW, and many channels that you have a right to watch via Roku because you pay your Spectrum bill, that would include AMC, TNT, Fox, CBS, premiums like HBO/Showtime if you have those, etc.

Also if you buy a personal DVR (for instance Tablo, another one is called I think simpl.tv), any local channels you can get over the air can be DVR'd, and your Roku will be able to connect to that device and play that content.

Roku is not special, there are competitors like Chromecast, Amazon Firestick, probably others.

Many TVs nowadays can do Roku-kind-of-stuff natively, like show netflix etc. More likely if it calls itself a 'smart TV'
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Roku doesn't know anything about your cable, but it will deliver anything from the internet (or your LAN) to your TV, including Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, GooglePlay, tons of free channels (usually with commercials) including NBC/ABC/CW, and many channels that you have a right to watch via Roku because you pay your Spectrum bill, that would include AMC, TNT, Fox, CBS, premiums like HBO/Showtime if you have those, etc.

Also if you buy a personal DVR (for instance Tablo, another one is called I think simpl.tv), any local channels you can get over the air can be DVR'd, and your Roku will be able to connect to that device and play that content.

Roku is not special, there are competitors like Chromecast, Amazon Firestick, probably others.

Many TVs nowadays can do Roku-kind-of-stuff natively, like show netflix etc. More likely if it calls itself a 'smart TV'
"The Simple.TV service is no longer available."
http://www.simple.tv/

Looks like Tablo is still kicking though.
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Another even easier way to consider making this happen is using a laptop, or pc connected to the tv you want to watch and then using the cable companies online streaming service.
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Originally Posted by late View Post
What I would like to do is find a way to send the signal from my existing box to a second tv. I've heard about Roku, I don't understand it. It seems to want to hook up to the internet. I was thinking about something that would simply take the signal from the cable box, and send it to the second tv.
How far is the second TV from the cable box?

The cable box has only one HDMI output (very likely). That means you'd need some sort of HDMI splitter.

You'd also need a way of connecting the second TV to the splitter. Either a wire or something like this (somewhat out-of-date):

https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/th...o-transmitter/

The Roku (Chromecast/Amazon Fire, etc) devices take internet video streams and convert them to HDMI. Most TV's can do this too.

Spectrum has a Roku "channel" (an app on the Roku box/software) that lets you stream some of your cable channels.

Spectrum.net Get Started With the Spectrum TV App on Roku

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My brother-in-law and his family use Roku exclusively on their tvs, which I find amusing because he has more money than God.

We use Roku quite a bit, and watch shows via Amazon, HBO, and Showtime.
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Just as a side, I find I really don't "like" Roku. Ours randomly locks up and has to be unplugged to come back. Also, all of the file sharing features it's supposed to have work very randomly. I am sure it will get better over time, but I still don't see it as a replacement for an HTPC. When and if they will add being able to sync of plug in a keyboard to the smart tv then perhaps I might reconsider....
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
Just as a side, I find I really don't "like" Roku. Ours randomly locks up and has to be unplugged to come back.
I don't think that is typical at all.
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...put 2nd (1st & more, TV's on Roku? ) a Friend has done this several times reduced to 1 Spectrum box... kept for the signal ..







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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
I don't think that is typical at all.
I can't imagine so, given it's popularity.
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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
I don't think that is typical at all.
It's also not my experience. Now we did experience that Roku+Sling has been very spotty, technically speaking. But Roku+Netflix has been flawless. The other Roku channels we have watched a little (NBC, ABC, CW, PBS) have been pretty good, but of course in this day and age it's hard to tolerate un-skippable commercials.
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Spectrum is digital-only cable, you can't split the incoming cable before the decoder box.

1. if decoder box has more than one HDMI output, you can connect 2nd TV to that

2. or split HDMI and run 2 sets from cable box

3. or use Roku or laptop on 2nd TV


I've had pretty good experience with Roku. I use the Roku Media Player app to connect to a DLNA share from my Iomega HMNHD with 2TB internal drive +2TB external drive. I'll usually download videos to that first rather than try to stream. Roku's weak point is N Wifi only, no AC, so the network-throughput is a little slow for HD videos.
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I have only 15megabit Cox internet, and we have no problem with netflix on two HD tvs, and youtube on a computer, simultaneously. No 4K though, if that's what you mean by HD nowadays. And come to think of it, I believe both TVs are 720, not 1080.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
I have only 15megabit Cox internet, and we have no problem with netflix on two HD tvs, and youtube on a computer, simultaneously. No 4K though, if that's what you mean by HD nowadays. And come to think of it, I believe both TVs are 720, not 1080.
As of right now, I am not even sure you can stream "true" 4K to anything other than a "smart" device. I believe it still depends on a deal with the RIAA and other powers that be to decide on a format that will thwart piracy sufficiently (in their minds).
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
I have only 15megabit Cox internet, and we have no problem with netflix on two HD tvs, and youtube on a computer, simultaneously. No 4K though, if that's what you mean by HD nowadays. And come to think of it, I believe both TVs are 720, not 1080.
Pure resolution isn't all of the picture-quality factors. The streaming apps have two-way communications that adapt to network-speeds. If you've got slow network, it increases compression and lowers frame-rate and while you actually may be dispaying a 1080p image, it's of low-quality and not as sharp as what you would have with a higher-throughput network connection.

Also the pure raw-speed of your internet-connection from Cox isn't the actual streaming speed. That's has more to do actual throughput of shared Cox-connection, traffic-congestion from streaming-server, latencies across WAN links, etc.

It's like having a 20-lane highway with perfect straightaways and perfectly flat surface. Sure, it can pump 20-cars across at a time going 100mph. But if all the cars you have available are half-broken Model-Ts with worn engines, you're not going to be moving packets very quickly. Hell, I've seen dedicated 1-gigabit connections have no more than 50kbps throughput at peak email & browsing times.
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Can you put up an outdoor antenna and get regular ol' broadcast TV? NBC/ABC/CBS and the others broadcast digital signals over the air, and they also have sub-channels (some are movie channels). I did that for a second TV I have and its worked out nicely. I also hooked up a DVD player (you can still buy them) so I can watch movies I rent from the local library. Initial cost was about $100 for the antenna set-up (antenna, pole, chimney attachment mechanism, coaxial cable), but no ongoing cable costs after that. Granted, I live in the Los Angeles metro area where we have lots of stations, but it might be worth looking into what over-the-air broadcast TV you can get in your area before forking out more $$$ to the cable companies.
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I agree with any and all of the cheap easy ideas... this is for the treadmill, not for couchlock watching.

Heck, any 30 minute program should suffice, even 30 min of youtube.

At the gym, it's always on the news on various networks...

Focus on the exercise and just look up from time to time.

(having said all that... I used to watch reruns of MASH and ride the rollers back in the day... watched on a broken B&W TV that barely worked)
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Beware -- HDMI does a "handshake" with receiving devices. Splitting the HDMI signal will result in all devices receiving the lowest resolution signal the HDMI output source detected. Split the signal between a 4K television and a 720p television and both of the televisions will receive 720p. Not to mention that both televisions will only be able to watch a single output signal.


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I use an active (powered) splitter and one of these (not the exact brand I own).

https://www.amazon.com/BlueRigger-Ru...n%3A7800973011

There is also wireless HDMI.

https://www.amazon.com/wireless-hdmi...ireless%20hdmi

I have never used it. Decided against it when I setup my system because the performance was not so great. Maybe things have improved.

I don't have cable. Haven't had cable for years. I use the HDHomeRun feed by an outdoor antenna.

https://www.silicondust.com/

I have a multimedia PC that runs PVR software to record. I can connect my tablet PC to the tuner or the recorded video anywhere in the house. It is what I use on the stationary bike.
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I have two 1983 Sony Trinitrons I got at yard sales for $13 total. Nobody appreciates my cheapness.
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Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
I have two 1983 Sony Trinitrons I got at yard sales for $13 total. Nobody appreciates my cheapness.
You overpaid for those boat anchors without digital tuning. I was happy that the local Goodwill took the 29" Tube TV off my hands without having to pay a surcharge. Had to have my son help me pick the monstrosity up and load it into the car. Good riddance to the inferior picture. Modern flat screen TVs are superior in every way, and the big box stores, as well as Amazon almost give them away.
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I have two 1983 Sony Trinitrons I got at yard sales for $13 total. Nobody appreciates my cheapness.
So now you have 2 boat anchors that will be impossible to dispose of when they finally do go bad. Brilliant move!
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