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Old 12-06-17, 05:53 PM   #1
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Need a Mixte (I'm trans and proud)

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I love bikes. I haven't been on here in years. I've been working a lot and glad of it.

In other news, I figured out I'm transgender. That means I identify as female, use
female pronouns, and go by Claire. Who is Claire? She's an attorney, she likes to take
pictures (see strangefinder) or @m.avina on IG.

I have a lot of poise and equanimity about this but I need practice being out. I understand
people have different views on this sort of thing. I'm ok with that as long as people are respectful.

I rode my bike to work this morning -- I loved the brisk cold and the excuse to drink more coffee.
I'm thinking of getting a mixte -- but the thread title is a metaphor -- I am not in a rush to find the right
bike per se. I'm just saying I dig wearing sheath dresses and tweed pencil skirts.

Ask me anything within reason. I'll respond if people are interested in the convo. I'm cooking dinner for a friend
but will check in later.

Bless you Foo.
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Old 12-06-17, 06:53 PM   #2
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Are you saying you need a mixte because you want to ride in skirts?

Pls don't take offense, I'm just ignorant, but what is the distinction between 'transgender' and 'crossdresser'?
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Old 12-06-17, 06:58 PM   #3
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@RubeRad -- exactly so. I would dig a lugged steel mixte so I can ride in a skirt.

Crossdressers for the most part identify as their biological gender. So technically drag queens
that perform drag but identify as men and men that like to dress up as women but identify as men
are all crossdressers and I support them.

I have always felt like I should be or was in fact female. When I decided to read up
on the science it seems there is some basis for this in physiology. If the timing of exposure
to estrogen and testosterone changes during pregnancy relative to the typical pattern of exposure
it essentially switches the sex of the brain. I identify as a woman and feel internally more like a chick--
a somewhat matter of fact chick that is more Claire Underwood than Holly Go Lightly but you get the idea
(ps I'm nicer than Claire Underwood).
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Thx for the explanation.

As long as you've never killed anyone, I bet you're nicer than Claire Underwood!
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Are you asking for help finding a mixte?
Do you have a budget?
Is it the lugged steel that you like - or would any skirt-friendly bike be OK?
The usual complaint about mixte bikes is they don't handle very well.

Lots of cafe bikes have a mixte-sort of shape - kind of like this one:


Lots of e-bikes also have that kind of shape if that's interesting for you.
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That's an interesting rig! I'll keep those in mind. Thanks!
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I'm old, somewhat conservative (I identify as a Rockefeller Republican) and I come from James Carville's Alabama. I found it quite enlightening when my daughter explained to me that M/F isn't binary - it is shades of grey.
You live in America, where you have the right to pursue happiness. But I'm getting mixed messages from the OP ("trans and proud" versus "need practice"). You're feelings about yourself are more important than mine - or random people you encounter. So I truly hope you are as comfortable with yourself as you've stated.

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BikesDirest sells a few nice models of mixtes. I got one with a 8 speed nexus rear hub for a friend. It was a pretty simple bike, but well thought out.

Of course, there are plenty of vintage ones floating around out there that have some cool to them.

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I'm a Camero ps I'm just being silly. May you find joy in ya life
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Look on your local CL. Mixte are quite hard to sell and some really nice ones come up, cheap.

My wife thought she wanted one until we purchased it and she couldn't get the water bottle out while riding. Ended up moving to a handlebar mount, and her knees hit it. Gifted that bike away and she rides a "drop" bar men's model now.
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There's a difference between mixte and a bike with a staggered top tube. Heck, I don't even consider bikes with the "mid-stays" which continue down from a single tube to be true mixtes, more some bastardization of both styles. I've very much considered picking up a Soma Buena Vista to do some kind of mixte build and I'm always tempted by older euro mixte style frames where vintage bikes are concerned.



In any case, congrats on coming out as trans!
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Mixtes seem to all be 19" frames and the lighter ones noodle-ier than the cheaper..

I ride my Brompton a lot, folding bikes , are a natural step through , functionally..





I'm just Old ... & a Guy.





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Old 12-07-17, 02:58 PM   #13
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You're best bet will probably be used, such as the one mconlonx posted. This may require a rebuild, or restore depending on the condition of the one you find and how shiny you want it to be. And of course tires, cables and housings, and chain should be replaced for sake of the operation and safety. Look on graigslist, or find a shop in your area that sells used bikes.
Those old mixte frame do have a certain appeal.

BTW coffeesnob, it's none of your business so try not to be an a$$hole.
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fwiw I wanted to ask the same question, although perhaps more circumspectly. The way OP is written seems open to discussion of her situation.
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You're best bet will probably be used, such as the one mconlonx posted. This may require a rebuild, or restore depending on the condition of the one you find and how shiny you want it to be. And of course tires, cables and housings, and chain should be replaced for sake of the operation and safety. Look on graigslist, or find a shop in your area that sells used bikes.
Those old mixte frame do have a certain appeal.

BTW coffeesnob, it's none of your business so try not to be an a$$hole.
I'd suggest a new-manufacture frame so you don't get into wonky, obsolete specs on things like wheel size, BB style, even headset and stem specs, seatpost diameters, etc. I mean, if vintage and restoration is your thing, go for it, but otherwise, a new frame which will accept modern spec compoments would be a better base to start from.

Although OP said ask questions, it's not hard to get some basic info about the concept -- we have this great resource called "the internet" nowadays.

https://www.glaad.org/transgender/transfaq

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Sexual orientation describes a person's enduring physical, romantic, and/or emotional attraction to another person (for example: straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual), while gender identity describes a person's, internal, personal sense of being a man or a woman, or someone outside of the gender binary.

Simply put: sexual orientation is about who you are attracted to and fall in love with; gender identity is about who you are.

Like everyone else, transgender people have a sexual orientation. Transgender people may be straight, lesbian, gay, bisexual, or queer. For example, a person who transitions from male to female and is attracted solely to men would typically identify as a straight woman. A person who transitions from female to male and is attracted solely to men would typically identify as a gay man.
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There are a couple of women who are serious commutes who post in the commuting section. I think some of them ride in skirts too, most of the commuting section rides in whatever makes riding easier for them and a few wear what they wear the rest of the day.
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I am not in a rush to find the right bike per se. I'm just saying I dig wearing sheath dresses and tweed pencil skirts.

Ask me anything within reason. I'll respond if people are interested in the convo.
Have you considered riding in tights and changing into your skirt when you get to work? That way you could get a cool fixie and not wrinkle your clothes.
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Shop PUBLIC M8i Mixte Commuter Bike from PUBLIC Bikes

Save Up to 60% Off Town Bikes | Classic, Stylish Eight Speed City Bikes | Urban Bikes | Commuter Road Bikes | Windsor Kensington 8 from bikesdirect.com -- they also do the same frame in 1 and 3sp models.

Loft | Electra Bikes

There's also Dutch-style bikes to consider for step-through- and skirt-ability.
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And also:

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I like Handsome, but I wish they'd gone full mixte and not this single top-tube design...

https://handsomecycles.com/pages/bik...eid=6e1f0c13bb
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Tweed pencil skirts are not going to work even on a "girls bike". Try Stretchy and short or something more a-line.

Terry cycling makes little skirts that go over bike shorts if you want to go more sporty lady. Cycling gear is definitely not the most discreet in terms of showing one's equipment!

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@Suttree!! Oh I have not heard from you or seen you post in YEARS!

I must say, you look wonderful! I'm so very happy that you are able to feel free to be who you truly are and if you were here with me right now I'd throw a party for you because this is a HUGE deal!!

Happy REBIRTHDAY!

As for a mixte, remember that a true mixte has the split top tube and there are a lot of nice ones around. I am lucky to have a Nishiki and I love it!

Please don't leave us again, alright?

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BikesDirest sells a few nice models of mixtes. I got one with a 8 speed nexus rear hub for a friend. It was a pretty simple bike, but well thought out.

Of course, there are plenty of vintage ones floating around out there that have some cool to them.

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Hi Siu! I'm back on my bike and back on Foo! Big hug.

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@Suttree!! Oh I have not heard from you or seen you post in YEARS!

I must say, you look wonderful! I'm so very happy that you are able to feel free to be who you truly are and if you were here with me right now I'd throw a party for you because this is a HUGE deal!!

Happy REBIRTHDAY!

As for a mixte, remember that a true mixte has the split top tube and there are a lot of nice ones around. I am lucky to have a Nishiki and I love it!

Please don't leave us again, alright?

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Have you considered riding in tights and changing into your skirt when you get to work? That way you could get a cool fixie and not wrinkle your clothes.
That works too!
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