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Old 01-12-18, 02:37 PM   #1
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Is anyone here vegetarian or tried it and gone back?

What are the reasons?

Pros and cons?

I've been eating less meat the last months of the year and have chosen the vegetarian lifestyle on the 1st. My son started Christmas day. So far we are good. I'd say fantastic actually. But then again, it's only been 12 days for me.
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Is anyone here vegetarian or tried it and gone back?

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Pros and cons?

I've been eating less meat the last months of the year and have chosen the vegetarian lifestyle on the 1st. My son started Christmas day. So far we are good. I'd say fantastic actually. But then again, it's only been 12 days for me.
I thought about it because I feel real bad for animals on farms
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I thought about it because I feel real bad for animals on farms
What's stopping you?
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I eat little meat and try and stay low on the food chain. I've tried to go vegan before and felt great for a while, but couldn't maintain it. Like most people, I tend to eat a lot of the same foods over and over and think part of the improved feelings may have been from the change in diet as well as what I changed to.
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Why did you choose vegan and not vegetarian?

I don't think I can do vegan myself. Choosing meatless was a huge decision for me. I was a big meat eater.
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I don't eat much red meet or pork at all. I do eat a lot of chicken and fish. I also eat a good amount of veggies, but I could use more fruit in my diet.
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Why did you choose vegan and not vegetarian?

I don't think I can do vegan myself. Choosing meatless was a huge decision for me. I was a big meat eater.
We'd just seen the movie "What the Health" and got motivated to do something I'd thought about before in a go big or go home kind of way.
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I've been vegetarian since 1980.
I grew up on a farm, seeing animals slaughtered.
I was in the Navy.
I had always had friends who were vegetarian so it didn't seem too weird to me.
I tried it, I liked it, I stuck with it.

Wife and daughter have been vegan for a few years and they're totally into it.
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It's easier being a lacto-ovo vegetarian -- especially given the nutrition found in egg yolks --and it is pretty easy to get even 70 gr. of protein a day if you eat tofu. I only eat about 3 steaks a year so, burgers and chicken (ham and turkey) aside, I don't eat a lot of meat.
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Tried it. No can do. Couldn't get enough protein from veggie and dairy without digestive issues. Chronic indigestion, gas, just miserable. And I live alone, other than cats who don't care how much we stink.

And I was hungry all the time but still not getting enough calories and protein. I started getting the old cravings for sugars and simple carbs to compensate, which can lead to blood sugar problems -- hypoglycemia and diabetes. I've seen that with other folks, including family members, who went vegetarian or vegan. They ended up obese because the cravings were overwhelming.

It's a high maintenance diet and more expensive. Great for folks who have the time and money. I don't.

I eat only enough meat to maintain a healthy balance. I feel better, don't have the cravings and have far fewer digestive problems.
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Wife and I tried it for about 9 months. She did much better than I did sticking to the plan but we'd still do steak once a month. I could never shake the craving for meat plus I travel worldwide a lot. Being on the road and eating vegetarian is very difficult and very boring when you have so many interesting dining opportunities. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!

The wife is a nutritionist plus a very good cook. She would do all sorts of vegetarian dishes and they were all very good but they did take a lot more effort in planning, prepping, and preparing food to keep from getting bored.

Regarding weight loss and overall health, if done right, the diet is pretty darn good for you. Good luck!
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I am not a purist. That said, I never bring meat home to cook (other that pizza leftovers). I do eat regularly: cheese and yogurt (these every day), eggs (once a week) and canned Omega-3 heavy fish a couple of times a week. I've been eating like this for most if my life. When I raced, I ate no meat, just cheese, yogurt and occasional fish. Never felt better.

I eat a lot of greens, peppers, root veggies and fruit every day. Legumes usually cooked from scratch once a week. Likewise whole rice or grains. Olive oil, lots of hot and very hot sauces 9and fresh peppers). Starting to research seeds, etc. to grind for both flavor and health benefits. (I'm making turmeric tea and seeing incredibly fast recovery from infected cuts that have been taking me to anti-biotics in recent years.)

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I've been a vegetarian now for about 10 years... and was a vegetarian long before that, but went back to also consuming meat, for a while.

At first it was because while I was in the Navy, frankly the meat products I was served were just abysmal. Either bad cuts or just poorly prepared. I just ended up cutting way back, and about the time I left sea duty and went to shore duty, and had to cook my own foods... I found I just preferred to avoid meats... this habit continued after I left the military.

Then I got married... and was no longer preparing my own meals. My wife loves meat/fish/chicken in just about any form... Slowly, I got back into eating meat with every meal, but I just wasn't comfortable wolfing down big steaks and living a meat and salad diet (she didn't want potatoes). So, I started working on the "salad part" more, and doing other green foods more and more.

I started making and enjoying more Asian based foods, which used meat more as flavor rather than as a portion. She enjoyed the variety, but continued to have larger portions of meat than I.

Then I got gout. After trying all sorts of different "gout diets," I discovered that vegetarians tend to not get gout... this seemed like an easy "test," based on my past... so I have been a vegetarian for about 10 years. I am not political about it, I cook meat/fish and chicken for my wife, and have no issues preparing foods with no meat for myself. I tend to stress lots of green veggies, mushrooms and nuts.

As far as gout, since going vegetarian, I have dramatically reduced the flareups, both in frequency and intensity, and I do not take gout meds... so for me, this works. (my brother is also having issues with gout, but he takes a few meds to tame his problem)

About the only "issue" is that I tend to crave stronger spices in my foods... often too strong for my wife. So I prepare shared foods a bit on the spice weak side, and supplement my foods with various chilies. (it's not uncommon for me to have serrano or jalapeno chilies thin sliced and sprinkled on whatever I am eating)

This works for us. I also don't make a big deal out of being veggie... when we go out, I just order what I can off of the menu, and sometimes she gives me her side dish to supplement my needs. (we sometimes order two entrees, she gets the meat portion, I get all the veggies -- kinda "jack sprat and his wife..."). Our closest friends tend to accommodate me with "something special I saw in a vegetarian cookbook." But otherwise, I don't insist on any fuss. I do eat eggs and cheese, but nothing else with strong protein content... I especially avoid shellfish (a well known gout trigger).

Again, for me, this is not about "not eating food with faces" or other political motivation... it is for health, due largely to my hereditary gout. My wife will go from eating a whole piece of chicken one meal, and nothing else, to eating only my veggie prepared food (like boc choy and shiitakes). She enjoys the variety, and feels that she gets to "cleanse" now and then...

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I thought about it because I feel real bad for animals on farms
My daughter is a vegan, she does it for ethical reasons almost as much as health reasons.

It is a difficult life choice to maintain.

I applaud all of those who can maintain that level of commitment.
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Is anyone here vegetarian or tried it and gone back?

What are the reasons?

Pros and cons?

I've been eating less meat the last months of the year and have chosen the vegetarian lifestyle on the 1st. My son started Christmas day. So far we are good. I'd say fantastic actually. But then again, it's only been 12 days for me.
I am...

Predominantly for health.. I would rather not have another trip to the ER

But I also recognise that the factory farm is pretty hard on the animals.. even before they are terminated.

9 years now...

Doing is easy... 'culturally (social events, restaurants, family( can be REALLY challenging.
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I've been a vegetarian now for about 10 years..
Do the eggs every once in a while give you enough protein? Or are you using legumes or tofu as well in the Asian dishes? I noticed that a lot of the meatless recipes are India based type of recipes with a lot of legume usage as well as spices.
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My daughter is a vegan, she does it for ethical reasons almost as much as health reasons.

It is a difficult life choice to maintain.

I applaud all of those who can maintain that level of commitment.
It's very hard because being vegan a lot of times includes the use of ANY animal products, like leather. And it can lead to other things as well such as using products that were the result of deforestation.
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I am...

Predominantly for health.. I would rather not have another trip to the ER

But I also recognise that the factory farm is pretty hard on the animals.. even before they are terminated.

9 years now...

Doing is easy... 'culturally (social events, restaurants, family( can be REALLY challenging.
We went to a restaurant recently and noticed that there were not many vegetarian choices other than salad. Even the soups all had meat. So we left.

My husband has been pretty good about supporting me, though. I think in part because on my first day, he offered me Chicken salad for dinner and I got super upset, accusing him of not supporting my decision. He corrected himself immediately and said he meant without the meat.
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I know a lot of people that are athletic and vegetarian and they seem pretty fit. I can only think of one that went back to eating meat, most seem pretty happy with their decision. I'm very meat light. I eat it here and there but will take the vegetarian option most of the time if its available.
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Could never be vegetarian or vegan-- and not just because I love bacon. Chronic digestive issues prevent me from ever again consuming beans or nuts-- so I'd have no real sources of available protein. So I'll just keep eating whatever.
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I love vegetables--always have; and eat tons of vegetables and fruit regularly.

But, I won't turn my nose up at roast suckling pig.
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