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Old 01-26-18, 07:18 PM
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David Lee Roth vs Sammy Hagar

David Lee Roth vs Sammy hager some say Dave is a better singer are they tone deaf? Sure Dave is a better show man but not better singer
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Old 01-26-18, 09:30 PM
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David is a good entertainer and Sammy is a better musician.
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Old 01-26-18, 09:53 PM
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Has never been summed up more succinctly than in Van Halen, the 1996 gem by Nerf Herder:

Is this what you wanted, Sammy Hagar?
Sammy Hagar, is this what you wanted, man?
Dave lost his hairline, but you lost your cool... buddy
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I'll never buy your lousy records again
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Old 01-26-18, 10:13 PM
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Dave is easier to listen to than Sammy, Van Hagar never really caught on with me.
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Old 01-27-18, 12:53 AM
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Gary Cherone.
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Hagar was more cerebral and a poet: John Lennon with Mick Jagger's work-ethic & focus.
DLR was a much, much better showman, had a better voice, and like Paul McCartney, included a
element in some of his songs. (Although really, he was more Elvis than McCartney.)

It's a fun dichotomy to throw back & forth:
~70's drug culture vs. 80's work ethic (Hip to Be Square)
~Hairy, stinking manhood/oversexed, drug-addled rockstar vs. Reflective, pseudo-thoughtful pseudo-artist.

I haven't really kept up with the latest DLR vs. Van Hagar, so these opinions are pretty much a time capsule from the late 90's. Hopefully neither has ODed or been accused of some sexual misconduct.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Gary Cherone.
I loved extreme maybe even more then van halen
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Old 01-27-18, 06:49 AM
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As others have said, Dave was the better showman and injected a more entertaining vibe to the music. The Dave albums were more fun.

I liked Sammy prior to Van Hagar, so I liked the Van Hagar years, but it was different. It was more serious music.

I try not to compare the two and consider them separate bands. Kinda like Rage Against the Machine vs Audioslave. A lot of the same key components, but two very different bands.
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Old 01-27-18, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pesty View Post
As others have said, Dave was the better showman and injected a more entertaining vibe to the music. The Dave albums were more fun.

I liked Sammy prior to Van Hagar, so I liked the Van Hagar years, but it was different. It was more serious music.

I try not to compare the two and consider them separate bands. Kinda like Rage Against the Machine vs Audioslave. A lot of the same key components, but two very different bands.
The Van Halen albums with Roth are superior. I saw both in concert with Halen. Roth concerts were wild.
Now I couldn't sit through five minutes of either.
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Originally Posted by pesty View Post
As others have said, Dave was the better showman and injected a more entertaining vibe to the music. The Dave albums were more fun.

I liked Sammy prior to Van Hagar, so I liked the Van Hagar years, but it was different. It was more serious music.

I try not to compare the two and consider them separate bands. Kinda like Rage Against the Machine vs Audioslave. A lot of the same key components, but two very different bands.
Kind of like comparing Bon Scott to Brian Johnson, both were successful, but Bon Scott was much more easier for me to listen to.
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Hagar. DLR is just so tacky and sleazy. Can’t stand him.
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Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
I loved extreme maybe even more then van halen
Cherone was definitely the most talented of the VH singers. Extreme was definitely one of my fav bands back in the day. Nuno killed on guitar (even better than EVH IMO).
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Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
Kind of like comparing Bon Scott to Brian Johnson, both were successful, but Bon Scott was much more easier for me to listen to.
The comparison of BJ v. BS is exactly what came to mind. All are talented in their own way. It's likely what you grew up with.
I'd prefer Roth, but appreciate what Hagar brought for that era of the band. Same goes for the variants of AC⚡DC.
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Originally Posted by skijor View Post
The comparison of BJ v. BS is exactly what came to mind. All are talented in their own way. It's likely what you grew up with.
I'd prefer Roth, but appreciate what Hagar brought for that era of the band. Same goes for the variants of AC⚡DC.
AC/DC wasn't popular with me in the beginning, due to their hard rock venue, especially with Brian Johnson in the lead vocal slot, but I've become more attuned to AC/DC over the years, and eventually realizing that there were actually two different singers in their more popular albums.
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Old 01-27-18, 02:48 PM
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Sam Halen blew chunks, Red tour, lets all dress like Bagwannis... lol what a mistake by Sammy to join Van Halen.

I enjoyed all of Hagar and Van Halen, except the Sam Halen time. I did enjoy the "Red" show but it was the worst show I saw, in my opinion. What made it good was the friends I went with.
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I was kidding about Cherone. He seems like a nice guy but has a generic voice and stage presence. With Van Halen he seemed like a bro who got pulled onstage from the crowd just to goof around for a few songs.

This live version of "Why Can't This be Love" has Eddie VH and Michael Anthony taking turns on sharing vocals with Cherone. Both sounded okay. With a little effort Van Halen could have done without a lead singer, although they'd have blended into the woodwork with dozens of other hard rock bands with talented guitarists and generic singer/musicians. They needed a front man to make a real impact.

I have no preference between Van Halen and Van Hagar. Both incarnations were good, just different. They were products of very different eras. David Lee Roth was a product of the unrestrained hedonism of the pre-HIV 1970s. Sammy Hagar still did similar stuff but mixed it in with more social consciousness stuff that was appropriate to an era wracked with fears of terrorism and global economic problems.

Van Halen with David Lee Roth would have been out of date and gotten little air play on radio in the late 1980s-1990s. His style and lyrics were very '70s-early '80s. Tastes changed but Roth never did. As he got older it was embarrassing. Hagar aged better.

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Are kidding? DLR's solo popularity exceeded Van Halen, after getting dumped.

True he flamed out.
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VH sounds like a guitar band that put a singer on stage because that was required to get paid.
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glad we didn't get into the sabbath frontman conversation...
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glad we didn't get into the sabbath frontman conversation...
Wow I love both ozzy and dio
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What's funny is that last time I heard, they get along fine.
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PS I wonder how many of you even realize Sammy was in Montrose?
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Hagar. Can you imagine DLRoth doing Dreams? Nope
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