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Old 04-24-18, 07:27 PM
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According to my bill, I'm using 57kwh per day. I don't know but that sounds a bit excessive. This is just a 3 bedroom apartment. And many of the heavy appliances are gas, not even electric. Water Heater is gas, stove is gas, heating is gas...

Can anybody give me some kwh usage for comparison?

EDIT: The dryer too is gas... I suspect shennanigans
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Old 04-24-18, 07:38 PM
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thats a lot i monitor my usage everyday i use around 10 per day and i keep my home ice cold in summer.. sometimes in a apt the other teenats hook up into ya wires
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Southern California, 1,300sq/ft house, 4 occupants (2 adults, 2 children.) Average "springtime" consumption, 28kWh per day. And our clothes dryer is electric. Our bills are much bigger in the summer than in the winter, down around 24kWh a day October through January, and up around 34kWh during the peak of summer.

If your electric service is as integrated as ours, you should be able to access your entire usage history, broken down by the hour-- this will help you find what is using up power. Our baseline seems to be 0.68kWh-- at 3-4am, when everything is "off," the standby of plugged in items, ceiling fans, appliances, etc, combine to consume 680 watts per hour. I imagine yours has to be higher than that, unless you're running some sort of devices that just suck down power 24 hours a day.
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That sounds like a lot of consumption. Look at the meter and see if the wheel is turning. Then starting unplugging or turning off everything that uses electricity. Check the meter as you go through this process until all are turned off or unplugged. If the meter still runs you may have something connected that is not visible, maybe someone is stealing or a bad meter (rare event).
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You should be running less than half of that. Unless you doing the following:
  • Bitcoin mining
  • Large-scale hydroponics
  • Trying to air-condition your apartment with the open-refrigerator door technique
  • Feeding high-amps to your neighbour who is in turn selling 'green & renewable' electricity back to the local utility under a net-metering program
  • Running the arc-welder in your metal fab shop/apartment.
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Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
According to my bill, I'm using 57kwh per day. I don't know but that sounds a bit excessive. This is just a 3 bedroom apartment. And many of the heavy appliances are gas, not even electric. Water Heater is gas, stove is gas, heating is gas...

Can anybody give me some kwh usage for comparison?

EDIT: The dryer too is gas... I suspect shennanigans
Your down in FL, looks like weatherdotcom has you near 90*F + humidity everyday for the next week. Could have something to do with it? Vaulted Ceilings? Old Bldg.?

I have 2 bed, 2 bath APT, really vaulted ceilings but a modern bldg, less than 10 years old. My consumption exceeds yours on some days but average around 35-40. We run heat and AC all the time. All electric. Past 90 days, I had 1 day over 70kwh.

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Old 04-25-18, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
According to my bill, I'm using 57kwh per day. I don't know but that sounds a bit excessive. This is just a 3 bedroom apartment. And many of the heavy appliances are gas, not even electric. Water Heater is gas, stove is gas, heating is gas...

Can anybody give me some kwh usage for comparison?

EDIT: The dryer too is gas... I suspect shennanigans
maybe the hvac system the apt uses is just so old and decrepid that it wastes electricity. Is your filter clogged? Ask other tennants for comparison.
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Old 04-25-18, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeesnob View Post
maybe the hvac system the apt uses is just so old and decrepid that it wastes electricity. Is your filter clogged?
That was my first thought. Also note that he lives in FL. 10 day forecast shows temps in mid to upper 80s every day except one.


Personal habits like setting the thermostat low can also affect usage. And dwelling location. (I.e., direct sunlight all day? Shade?) My brick exterior house gets a lot of sun. Great in the winter as the sun shines directly on my façade. Sometimes it feels like the heat has been on in the front bedroom even though the register has been closed. Sucks in the summer as the sun beats down on the house much of the day.
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Old 04-25-18, 07:44 AM
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With usage that high it makes me think that someone tapped your service line and is running all their grow lights on your dime.

The highest my usage has ever been was powering a coral reef tank, lights, cooler, pumps.....with the air on and still didn't see usage like that.
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Get an electricity usage monitor like a Kill-A-Watt or something else, and you can check your fridge, your TV, your computer, your A/C, etc and hopefully find the culprit.

Also if you call your electric company and ask, they might be able to help you solve the problem. In fact, they might be mandated federal or state to provide services to assist customers in saving energy.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Get an electricity usage monitor like a Kill-A-Watt or something else, and you can check your fridge, your TV, your computer, your A/C, etc and hopefully find the culprit.

Also if you call your electric company and ask, they might be able to help you solve the problem. In fact, they might be mandated federal or state to provide services to assist customers in saving energy.
We have one, handy. Used it during my cut our electrical usage campaign. Switching to all LED lighting was very helpful. We recently set up a 55" Samsung TV. After the fact thought hmm, wonder how much this beast uses. Dragged out the meter and it's less than a 60w incandescent light bulb.
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Old 04-25-18, 10:37 AM
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Yes, there is a meter you can buy and test each thing you plug in, placing it in the wall socket



just 1 of many...
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Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
According to my bill, I'm using 57kwh per day. I don't know but that sounds a bit excessive. This is just a 3 bedroom apartment.
That is very high. Unless you run your air conditioner constantly, I think it's high enough that your utility would come investigate on that basis alone. If somebody's stealing your power it should be pretty obvious to an inspector.

I think you should check your previous bills and see if there was a particular month where it went up dramatically or if it's always been this high - that would be the most interesting from a trouble-shooting point of view.

I keep pretty good records of our usage and we average about 23kWh per day in the summer and 30kWh per day in the winter.

4-bedroom house
Northern California
4 adult occupants
no air conditioner
gas drier and gas furnace.

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Old 04-28-18, 10:14 AM
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I'm not sure what my KWH usage is, but my bill is a lot lower than my neighbors and the difference is television, They have big flat screen TVs in several rooms, and I don't have any.
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I'm not sure what my KWH usage is, but my bill is a lot lower than my neighbors and the difference is television, They have big flat screen TVs in several rooms, and I don't have any.
Not really. A 65" LED TV left on 8 hours a day uses about $2 worth of electricity a month. A T8 dual-tube fluorescent uses more electricity. Our 10-year-old 52" in the living room uses ~ 85¢ in electricity a month.
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Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
According to my bill, I'm using 57kwh per day. I don't know but that sounds a bit excessive. This is just a 3 bedroom apartment. And many of the heavy appliances are gas, not even electric. Water Heater is gas, stove is gas, heating is gas...

Can anybody give me some kwh usage for comparison?

EDIT: The dryer too is gas... I suspect shennanigans
OMG! That's a ****load of electricity! Here at home, your electricity bill would be 500 to 600 dollars a month, I'd check your meter and see how many watts you are using, a Smart Meter will tell you how much you are currently using, or if you have an older dial meter, the watt wheel will be spinning like a top. With a Smart Meter, I can go online and check my past usage by the day and even the hour on how much electricity I used.
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I'm in the renewable energy business. This is way too high. You either have a bad HVAC system or someone is stealing power. Call the utility and complain ASAP
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Not really. A 65" LED TV left on 8 hours a day uses about $2 worth of electricity a month. A T8 dual-tube fluorescent uses more electricity. Our 10-year-old 52" in the living room uses ~ 85¢ in electricity a month.
That's the only difference we could come up with, our units are about the same size and we don't have any other real differences in habits. What else could it be?
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Ok, I found out that my energy company logs the energy usage data and makes it available to clients on their website. I can go and check exactly how many kwh we used on, lets say, April 3rd from 3pm to 4pm. I already turned off the AC for 6 hours and even though it went down, it wasn't significant. I'm going to have to turn EVERYTHING off and see. I just need to find a good time to do the experiment so that the family doesn't melt in the process (we are still in Florida, in the middle of summer), or get bored to death.
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Since when is April the middle of summer?
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Since when is April the middle of summer?
Giggle, it was over 85* average daytime temps when I was down to Florida in early March.....for the rest of the country his statement qualifies.
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Are you exporting electricity to PR for the family?
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That is crazy. See if they'll come check it out. Do the numbers actually match? When I was a kid, the meter reader would only come out once every 3 months or so and take a measurement. Then they'd guess (based on past usage, weather, and other things I assume) what your usage would be for the next 2-3 months before coming out again to take another measurement. If they were way off on their guesses, you could have a really high or low bill as they got back on track.
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Also think that it's necessary to check your hvac system. I use new ducted system in my house in Auckland and it helps me to reduce the utility bills a lot. This system blows heated or cooled air throughout the home through discreetly installed grill vents so I can set specific temperatures for each area in my house. Specialists from A/C service here in NZ helped me with installation and maintenance. I checked exactly how many kwh I use and the actual number does not exceed 23kWh per day.

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Are you still facing this problem? I think you should provide proper maintenance service to your HVAC system. The HVAC system includes so many units like an air conditioner, air cooler, chiller, heater, furnace, compressor, etc., which needs preventive maintenance service on a regular basis. A well-maintained HVAC system consumes less power to run by which one can save a lot of money on the utility bill. One can try this out if you are still facing problems related to an HVAC system.
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