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Old 05-16-18, 10:34 PM
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Pop music-- e.g., 'You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin,'first recorded by the Righteous Brothers in 1964 (written by Phil Spector and others).
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Go back to your emerging adulthood years. Whatever your fashion choice was, I'll bet the mature adults, felt the same way about your fashion choices back then, as you do about the vicenarian fashion sense today. Funny how that works.
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Okay, sure, I had a crush on Stevie Nicks back in 1976 like everyone else.

Then I saw Fleetwood Mac live in '78. I was blown away by Lindsey Buckingham. The guy is intense. He was the real magician in that era of Fleetwood Mac. The arrangements, production and dynamics were mostly him (and Richard Dashut).

And it took two attempts to actually see Fleetwood Mac in '78. The first show was cancelled when they claimed Buckingham "had a seizure backstage." The reality? He was probably wasted and passed out. But they more than made up for it with the later show that year.

Buckingham's voice is so powerful he had to stand back about 3 feet when sharing a mic with other folks. Somewhere out there is a video of Buckingham playing with the Everly Brothers (after the big commercial breakthrough era of Fleetwood Mac with Buckingham and Nicks). Lindsey's voice was so much more powerful he had to stand well behind the Everlys to avoid drowning them out.

I got over my crush on Stevie Nicks decades ago. It was great while it lasted. But her song writing is pretty shallow, all variations on her manufactured angsty-witchy-hippie-gypsy facade. And her voice didn't wear well. She sounds like Lucille Ball trying to mimic Stevie Nicks after way too many cigarettes and shots of rye.

And to spread the cynicism around equitably, I'm not a big fan of Buckingham's guitar tone since he switched from the Les Paul to the semi hollow body sorta-acoustic guitars and playing all fingerstyle without a pick. They don't have the same tone and sustain needed to drive those wailing riffs on the first two albums he did with FM. Fortunately when I saw them in '78 he was still playing the Les Paul and hybrid flatpick/fingerstyle technique.

Yeah, I know, I'm a curmudgeon.

And I was a big fan of the Bob Welch era, and Bob's solo stuff. Very underrated musician. Bare Trees and Mystery to Me were masterpieces of the early '70s Southern California cool vibe sound. And he had a huge hit with French Kiss. Yeah, it was almost too slick and too commercial but it was damned catchy and filled with great pop songs. And the earlier Big Towne, 2061 should be a cult classic -- it's much better than most critics believed, just so radically different from Welch's SoCal cool vibe that most folks didn't know what to make of it. But it was just a little ahead of its time, with trippy electro-funk grooves, like Gary Numan doing covers of Parliament/Funkadelic tunes.
For sure I'm not a fan of sagging pants. It's funny how the baggy clothes trend started out as necessity, wearing dad's khaki uniforms or older siblings clothes. Same thing with rap music, couldn't afford musical instruments so they had to express their musical side by singing and rapping over it. Then suburbia gets a hold of it and it becomes a thing ...to make money. "Necessity the mother of invention" just for some reason certain people make it seem cool and every one wants to mimic cool.

Although not a fan of Fleetwood Mac I can surely appreciate their music and Buckingham's guitar playing. His tone was perfect for their music.
Most people choose gibson because of the flat fret board, shorter scale, and humbucker that make getting a big sound using thin strings. A fender strat on the other hand is a different animal, convex finger board, longer scale, and you have to use thicker strings to get a bigger dound. It's relatively easy to mimic the sound of a gibson with fender strat but way harder to attempt to replicate the fender strat with a gibson humbucker guitar.
Reminds me of the story when Stevie Ray Vaughan invited ted nugent to jam with him on stage, so ted picked up one of Stevie's Strats (remember ted was used to gibson with very thin strings) and started playing and was having a hell of a time he said the strings felt like telephone pole wire, he said Stevie just gave him a I gotcha smile but I think Stevie was just having fun and meant no malice.
To me good tone is only good if it matches the song or style, very few guitarist are able to put their "signature" guitar tone on any song and make it sound right and not invasive. Those guitarist include: B B King, Albert King, Carlos Santana, Stevie Ray, Eric Clapton and a few others if I think about it.

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Go back to your emerging adulthood years. Whatever your fashion choice was, I'll bet the mature adults, felt the same way about your fashion choices back then, as you do about the vicenarian fashion sense today. Funny how that works.
white tennis shorts, blue T-shirt, adidas?
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How about when one of your younger co workers gives you the nickname "the wise old owl"...

Then you realize that happened in 1990...
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white tennis shorts, blue T-shirt, adidas?
Recall a time when T-shirts were underwear? Go figure!
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...and, this:
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...and, this:
Yup, dozens of them all over. 😉
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Yup, dozens of them all over. ��
Probably about 10 or more years ago I heard a story that a college professor wore one to school as a tie clip and no one in his class knew what it was or fathom its purpose.
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I dumped my motorcycle at a red light when my bell-bottoms snagged on the shifter. Practical they were not.

As I see it, each generation has to do something to shock their parents. All we had to do was allow our hair to touch our ears. The bar keeps getting higher.
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...and, this:
Is that some new digital ying and yang symbol?


Right up there with one of these........


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Probably about 10 or more years ago I heard a story that a college professor wore one to school as a tie clip and no one in his class knew what it was or fathom its purpose.
Why would they? It is an artifact of a bygone era. When my son was about 4 or 5, he found a VHS cassette in a box of old junk. He asked me, "What is this?!"
I said, "That's how we used to watch movies. There were stores that rented them and everything." He just stared at it and said, "No way."

His generation will think back fondly to the time of BluRay discs. Movies come out of nowhere now, whenever you want to watch them. The notion of a magnetic tape that has to be rewound between uses-- really, any sequential media-- is all but unfathomable to "the kids today."
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Okay, sure, I had a crush on Stevie Nicks back in 1976 like everyone else.

Then I saw Fleetwood Mac live in '78. I was blown away by Lindsey Buckingham. The guy is intense. He was the real magician in that era of Fleetwood Mac. The arrangements, production and dynamics were mostly him (and Richard Dashut).

And it took two attempts to actually see Fleetwood Mac in '78. The first show was cancelled when they claimed Buckingham "had a seizure backstage." The reality? He was probably wasted and passed out. But they more than made up for it with the later show that year.

Buckingham's voice is so powerful he had to stand back about 3 feet when sharing a mic with other folks. Somewhere out there is a video of Buckingham playing with the Everly Brothers (after the big commercial breakthrough era of Fleetwood Mac with Buckingham and Nicks). Lindsey's voice was so much more powerful he had to stand well behind the Everlys to avoid drowning them out.

I got over my crush on Stevie Nicks decades ago. It was great while it lasted. But her song writing is pretty shallow, all variations on her manufactured angsty-witchy-hippie-gypsy facade. And her voice didn't wear well. She sounds like Lucille Ball trying to mimic Stevie Nicks after way too many cigarettes and shots of rye.

And to spread the cynicism around equitably, I'm not a big fan of Buckingham's guitar tone since he switched from the Les Paul to the semi hollow body sorta-acoustic guitars and playing all fingerstyle without a pick. They don't have the same tone and sustain needed to drive those wailing riffs on the first two albums he did with FM. Fortunately when I saw them in '78 he was still playing the Les Paul and hybrid flatpick/fingerstyle technique.

Yeah, I know, I'm a curmudgeon.

And I was a big fan of the Bob Welch era, and Bob's solo stuff. Very underrated musician. Bare Trees and Mystery to Me were masterpieces of the early '70s Southern California cool vibe sound. And he had a huge hit with French Kiss. Yeah, it was almost too slick and too commercial but it was damned catchy and filled with great pop songs. And the earlier Big Towne, 2061 should be a cult classic -- it's much better than most critics believed, just so radically different from Welch's SoCal cool vibe that most folks didn't know what to make of it. But it was just a little ahead of its time, with trippy electro-funk grooves, like Gary Numan doing covers of Parliament/Funkadelic tunes.
The latest iteration of Fleetwood Mac has Neil Finn (Split Enz/Crowded House) and Mike Campbell (Tom P/ Heartbreakers guitarist) replacing Lindsey Buckingham. Should be interesting. Neil Finn is a talented guy.
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No one remembers Tommy Bolin (went 'Post Toastee' in '76)
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No one remembers Tommy Bolin (went 'Post Toastee' in '76)
Now you went and done it. Made me go dig through the wayback machine for my long lost youth.

Back in the early 1970s there was a great little FM station in Connecticut that played a diverse bag of album oriented rock, progressive and jazz rock. It was the only decent FM station we could hear across the pond on the far eastern end of rural Long Island. Everything from Alice Cooper's "Halo of Flies" off their only really great album, Killer; to Loggins & Messina to Billy Cobham with Jan Hammer and Tommy Bolin on guitar. Tommy was literally and figuratively wasted on Deep Purple. The material was beneath his talent and he was deep in the vein by then. But for a few years he was amazing.

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The latest iteration of Fleetwood Mac has Neil Finn (Split Enz/Crowded House) and Mike Campbell (Tom P/ Heartbreakers guitarist) replacing Lindsey Buckingham. Should be interesting. Neil Finn is a talented guy.
I'm feeling wet-blanketish about any Fleetwood Mac tour without Lindsey Buckingham -- he's hinted in recent shows that there's more to the story of his dismissal than the rest of the band is saying, but I'm pretty much over most of that era of Fleetwood Mac anyway.

FM without Buckingham is like Cheap Trick without Bun E. Carlos. I'd rather rewatch this video, the greatest 21 minutes of live rock and roll anyone could want, 1977 when Cheap Trick were at their quirky peak. It's like The Tubes, the Dead End Kids, The New York Dolls and a grocery store manager got together and said "Hey, let's put together a garage band that does all riffs on Badfinger, The Who and post-Rubber Soul Beatles."

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Beautiful ceremony this morning... the Queen sends her good wishes. Be best. Bring the fire!
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Beautiful ceremony this morning... the Queen sends her good wishes. Be best. Bring the fire!
Yes, the U.S. has great spectacles whereas the Brits know how to put on a proper show.
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Is that some new digital ying and yang symbol?


Right up there with one of these........


Dude, this is a family forum. Put that back in the dresser drawer.

Our fashion was high top tennis shoes unlaced. Clomp clomp clomp clomp. We still managed to run the bases and run for a touchdown in the neighborhood sports. Kids these days don't have to worry about that. They just need to run from authorities.

I still see a kid or two on bicycles, but when was the last time you saw a group of kids playing whiffleball or backyard football?
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Dude, this is a family forum. Put that back in the dresser drawer.

Our fashion was high top tennis shoes unlaced. Clomp clomp clomp clomp. We still managed to run the bases and run for a touchdown in the neighborhood sports. Kids these days don't have to worry about that. They just need to run from authorities.

I still see a kid or two on bicycles, but when was the last time you saw a group of kids playing whiffleball or backyard football?
Good thing that the mods missed that photo,

I don't remember anyone leaving their shoes untied in my youth, I suspect that it wasn't in style at the time. The one small street in our neighborhood, limited it to having one baseball or football game at a time, but with numerous kids living on that same street, it was difficult for many kids to make the cut and join any of the games being played .
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My dad used one of those every day before they bottled that stuff
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From complaining about kids with pants down to their knees to Fleetwood Mac and Guitarists. Gotta love internet forums.

And new Fleetwood Mac ain't gonna be The Green Manalishi With The Two Pronged Crown!
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My dad used one of those every day before they bottled that stuff

Geez, now you've gone and done it.
I remember one of my friends was so cheap, that one gas station would put their oil spout in a Mason jar to drain after a customer used it, and my friend would stop at the gas station on a daily basis, and empty whatever oil that was in the Mason jar, into his engine.
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