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Old 06-29-18, 03:46 PM
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Ankle Nippers

My new neighbor has two little Ankle Nippers. They've decided that they don't like me... I suppose.

So, every time I get outside, they come running over to my house barking like crazy, and the owners come chasing after them apologetic.

They don't really hurt anything, and are flighty enough that I don't think they would come close enough to actually bite.

Yesterday I was leaving, so I thought I'd just hop on the bike and head off. The little critters followed me about 200 yards down the driveway. I hope it didn't give the owners a heart attack, but they seemed to break off the chase before we got to the main road.

So, what should I do?
  • Ignore them?
  • Try to chase them back home?
  • Get some dog treats to reward their ill behavior, but perhaps win them over?
  • Borrow a bigger dog?

I don't think I'd choose anything that would particularly be mean to them, so no pepper spray or rocksalt shot.
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Old 06-29-18, 05:34 PM
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I suggest you tell the neighbor that you're worried his loose dogs will get hit by a car because they don't look before they run in the street.

Because that happens to loose dogs ALL THE TIME. And responsible dog owners don't let their dogs go loose.
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Old 06-29-18, 05:48 PM
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It is isolated from the street enough that they won't get smashed on the street (unless they're chasing me on the bike).

I think there is usually someone outside when the dogs are loose, but they seem to have a mind of their own. Well, a communal mind, the two run together as a pack.

It probably catches them by surprise a bit... I'm sure they're little angels until I come ouside, then they start barking and making a beeline towards my property.
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Old 06-29-18, 05:52 PM
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I've gone through seven years of a similar situation. Except my yard and theirs are fenced. Their house went up for sale this week.
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Old 06-30-18, 04:29 AM
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Carry a spray bottle filled with cider vinegar, fajita seasoning and a pinch of fenugreek. When the neighbors ask why you're spraying it on the dogs, just say "marinade."
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Old 06-30-18, 04:39 AM
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The most serious, debilitating injury I have ever experienced was from being knocked over by two golden retriever puppies. (Mine).

Don't assume they can do you no harm, even if they don't have a mean bone in their bodies.

Also, what DiabloScott said.
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Old 06-30-18, 04:50 AM
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Reminds me when I delivered papers as a young boy. One lady down a gravel road her dog always chased me and it bit me once in the back of the leg. I was scared to death everyday. I never told anyone thought I'd be labeled for being afraid of a small dog.
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Old 06-30-18, 07:12 AM
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Heck, I'm impressed by your 200 yd. long driveway!
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Carry a bag of bacon bits with you. After you pull it out, I bet they'll stop and after giving them some, you'll have some best friends!
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the further a dog gets away from the wold traights the worse dog you get
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Old 07-02-18, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg View Post
Heck, I'm impressed by your 200 yd. long driveway!
Half of it is a pretty good climb, for a last bit of workout on my way home. My property is a panhandle.

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Carry a bag of bacon bits with you. After you pull it out, I bet they'll stop and after giving them some, you'll have some best friends!
Yeah, I should probably do that.

But, then they'll probably come running for the dog treats. I'll never be rid of them.

I haven't seen them for the last couple of days. Seeing them vanishing down the driveway behind me probably scared the dog owners a bit.
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You don't have a dog problem, you have an owner/neighbor problem. I'd be surprised if your area is without leash/containment laws. Dogs are gonna be dogs...irresponsible owners allow them to be a nuisance or worse. Repetitive bad behavior without modification leads to worse behavior.

First, I'd recommend familiarizing yourself with your local and state laws...this provides a starting point for discussion with your neighbors. After being attacked and bit last year, I reviewed state and local dog laws...turns out (in TN) that a dog off the owner's property without a leash (unless guarding livestock) constitutes the owner breaking the law. If your neighbors do not contain the little yappers, get animal control involved.

If a dog steps on the road with intent, I pepper spray without remorse, knowing that any dog could easily lay me up and damage my bike as well...unacceptable.
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Old 07-03-18, 06:35 AM
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Try a small air horn. It fits in a jersey pocket. 120dB of get the hell away from me. It's not mean, leaves no lingering discomfort like pepper spray, won't potentially blow back on you, and it's affordable. It'll probably only take one or two 'corrections' to give them second thoughts on pursuing/chasing off the interloper (you) from their [perceived] territory.
That said, it is first and foremost on the dog owner(s) to establish boundaries so that this doesn't occur in the first place. But if they're unwilling to do so, try the air horn. Wait until the dog(s) are within ~10'. If you use it when they're relatively far away, it'll be less effective.
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Old 07-03-18, 07:14 AM
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Carry a bag of bacon bits with you. After you pull it out, I bet they'll stop and after giving them some, you'll have some best friends!
That’s what I was thinking.

or get a bigger dog to ride shotgun with you.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
I suggest you tell the neighbor that you're worried his loose dogs will get hit by a car because they don't look before they run in the street.

Because that happens to loose dogs ALL THE TIME. And responsible dog owners don't let their dogs go loose.
I have this conflict when I feel I'm behaving more responsibly than the owner when I have no responsibility at all. I've often curtailed my activity to help the fat out of shape owners corral their mutts. Sometimes I don't. Not my monkeys, not my circus. The owners generally get pissed AT ME for their incompetence. I love animals, but I demand 100% responsibility from owners. That's the standard I have for my pets. No excuses ever.
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I'd treat them like I do all dogs while riding, Yell go home as I spray them with my water bottle.
Besides looking out for my own safety you're also keeping them safe. Teaching them not to chase people on bicycles makes the road safer for everyone.
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Old 07-03-18, 11:08 AM
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If you wanna make bad with the neighbors quick and in a hurry take any of the advice above about spraying with, and etc. I wouldn't recommend even one excessively friendly talk with them about it. Call the local enforcement or pound and let them handle the neighbors and pets. Not to see them 'go away' but to modify the owners behavior without making yourself the bad guy.
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If you wanna make bad with the neighbors quick and in a hurry take any of the advice above about spraying with, and etc. I wouldn't recommend even one excessively friendly talk with them about it. Call the local enforcement or pound and let them handle the neighbors and pets. Not to see them 'go away' but to modify the owners behavior without making yourself the bad guy.
Now that would be pretty silly.

Knowing exactly where the dogs are coming from. Owners chasing after them.

And, as mentioned, they don't actually hurt anything other than being a bit yappy.

Want to make hard feelings with the neighbors?

And, as mentioned above, "taming" the dogs might be the first step, and perhaps they'd even listen a bit in that case.

Or, if I really wanted to stop them, I could string an electric fence along the property line. It wouldn't take much. But, they aren't that big of a problem either. And, they aren't crossing in front of enough traffic for that to be a problem either.
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Now that would be pretty silly.
Most people like this think of their dogs as "fur babies" and it's going to be a no win with the neighbors if they KNOW he is the one. It would be best to make an anonymous call to animal control, etc. so that one of their officers come out and help these people realize they have to control and contain their animals. The dogs need training, and the owners more.

Talking with them will amount to nothing aside from confirming who "has trouble with" the animals. A whole lot of "I'm sorry" like is going on now with no result.
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There are only about 3 other houses that could have issues with these yappers, but probably only two, mine, and one other. And, I'm the only one that regularly rides bikes. I could talk to the other neighbors and see if they're also being barked at.

Anyway, it wouldn't take much to figure out who made a complaint if one was to be made.

And, as mentioned, they aren't actually hurting anything. They keep about 5 feet away, with no direct access to public roads.
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I'm a dog lover but I wouldn't put Any Dog a head of me or my family.
Saturday I was on a ride with a friend on my regular 26 mile route when a good size dog chased him, then me. Fortunately I was far enough behind to see it, man my water bottle and slow down enough to give him a good spray. My friend said first time ive seen that dog. The next day riding same route by myself, same dog saw me and quickly got off road and headed to his house. Mission accomplished. Trust me I've thought about what if dog owner were to get angry chase me down and confront me with a shot gun. But the thought of a dog causing me to have a debilitating crash or causing me to swerve into traffic makes me take the chance of confronting an angry irresponsible dog owner.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
My new neighbor has two little Ankle Nippers. They've decided that they don't like me... I suppose.

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Dogs can be very intuitive.

Are they the size of a football? Can you erect a goal post in you front yard? Just putting it out there.....

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I carry pepper spray. Yes it causes discomfort and that's the point. One spray and the dogs will learn not to chase you with no permanent harm. Very humane as they might not be so lucky with someone else. PS I'm a big dog lover....
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Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
Dogs can be very intuitive.

Are they the size of a footfall? Can you erect a goal post in you front yard? Just putting it out there.....
I think there would be just enough space to erect a goalpost for the pug-skins between our properties.

Are we talking American football, or what the rest of the world calls football?
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