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Old 07-09-18, 06:33 PM
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Who do you think are the most genius musicians?

i say ladygaga prince and billy corgan
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For musical composers its Mozart at #1 on my list. Nobody else comes close.
For musicians it would be Albert Lee (electric guitar) and Andres Segovia (classical guitar).
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Frank Zappa, for genius composer and taskmaster bandleader. Jerry Garcia for emotional input into his musical compositions.
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For all things musical, (arrangement, lyrics, composition,subject matter,production, musicianship and so on) it has to be Prince, Stevie Wonder, Maurice White (Earth, Wind, and Fire). Just Pure Genius.
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John Coltrane

For improvisational brilliance in the rock genre, the Allman Brothers lineup with Duane and Berry.

The Beatles, from 1965 Rubber Soul through 1970.
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Lauri Anderson

Beethoven

David Byrne

Jerry Garcia

Telemann

Roger Waters

Neil Young

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Old 07-10-18, 08:01 AM
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Old 07-10-18, 08:53 AM
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I would certainly agree that Prince is high on that list for musicians of our time. Not only did he write himself a bevy of hits, he did a lot of writing for other successful artists and acts as well.

I think there is something to be said for the musical talents of many of the folks involved in Dubstep/Electronic. Bassnectar, Blackmill, Phealah, and others come to mind.

For all time, I would think it falls among the list of classic composers whose works have stood the test of time. IMO, Mozart tops that list for my personal tastes but am sure it could be succinctly argued for others.
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Just some mentions. All arguable (except for Marion Walter Jacobs). To say they're the best musicians would probably be a disservice to genres that I fail to appreciate enough.

piano - damned tough choice - Jelly Roll Morton

Sax - Coltrane (I like Lester Young better. Matter of styles)

guitarist - Mark Knopfler

ahead of his time / groundbreaker - Junior Barnard, one of the many fine guitarists for Bob Wills band

Harmonica - Little Walter Jacobs


fusion - Frank Zappa

band leader - Bob Wills

songwriter - Hank Williams senior
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Originally Posted by skidder View Post
For musical composers its Mozart at #1 on my list. Nobody else comes close.
Bach obviously at least 'comes close'. I would say he's higher. Beethoven I would put on par with Mozart.

I don't know that anybody else would be at the level of that Holy Trinity of music.

Except maybe Nickelback.
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Bach obviously at least 'comes close'. I would say he's higher. Beethoven I would put on par with Mozart.

I don't know that anybody else would be at the level of that Holy Trinity of music.

Except maybe Nickelback.
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lol, glad you enjoyed that joke. I don't even know if I've ever heard a nickelback song, I've just heard so many jokes about how so many people hate them
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Keith Jarrett is certainly one of many geniuses in music - a child prodigy. Few can improvise complete concerts on the spot, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxiP6K56bHo

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By all credible contemporary accounts, young Mozart was a stunning genius. So much so that it spooked those sent to 'test' him.

Felix Mendelssohn was possibly even more capable a composer as a teenager.

The last great musical genius? I can only think of Erich Korngold. Richard Strauss, himself a formidable child prodigy, was intimidated by young Korngold's talent.
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By all credible contemporary accounts, young Mozart was a stunning genius. So much so that it spooked those sent to 'test' him.

Felix Mendelssohn was possibly even more capable a composer as a teenager.

The last great musical genius? I can only think of Erich Korngold. Richard Strauss, himself a formidable child prodigy, was intimidated by young Korngold's talent.
The first movement of Mendelssohn's Concerto in E-Minor has been my favorite piece of classical music for nearly 50 years.

No one has mentioned Duke Ellington nor Louis Armstrong (probably the gifted player of high notes on a trumpet ever until hit hit so many he no longer had a working lip). Listen to some of his 1930s recording if you want to hear the unreal. (Actually you probably won't be impressed. He makes those high note sound so natural you have no idea that no one else can play them.) And after he no longer had that gift, he still made amazing music, match his voice and trumpet perfectly with one microphone, no sound board and no editing. And he could match that voice and trumpet to the singing of the likes of Ella Fitzgerald, again, perfectly.

And Duke Ellington was in a category of his own when it came to ground breaking music, both from the music and the culture end. Never mind that he wrote so much music, recorded so much, worked with so many musicians and so on.

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Just quickly off the top of my head a couple of personal faves; Charles Mingus, Jaco Pastorius.
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I think there are many genius in music - to single out a few is not possible. Many of the musicians noted above are masters of skill, tone, individual-voice, composition/improvisation, arrangement, leadership all with an overriding originality & driving creativity. These master musicians exist around the world as well and throughout ages. Who are the mostest is mostly driven by personal preference.
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I'm going to just throw this out there.... There's just something about the music by these two artists that's different, that I really like. It has to do with melody, but I think it's more about instrumentation and vocal arrangements: Van Morrison and Todd Rundgren.
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Bob Dylan
Charlie Parker
Wayne Shorter
Herbie Hancock
Bill Evans
Jack DeJonnette
Rob Brown / Sean Booth
Dave Holland
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