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Old 08-01-18, 08:13 PM
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I recently found out my '16 crosstrek limited (7" touchscreen with nav) DISABLES all steering-wheel mounted sound control while in reverse/backup camera... But I've learned what buttons do what on the steering wheel otherwise, took 6 months or so of owning it to figure it all out.

At least my climate control are still knobs and buttons (well, push the knob in for the a/c, defrost or recirc). I've even got paddle shifters for shifting, but honestly the CVT does better left to its own for 99% of driving. Might be different if I had a bit more than 148HP...
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Old 08-01-18, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Recent vehicles I have rented, I could barely get the radio on and AC running... felt like I was in a tech nightmare... and I am a tech guy. But the biggest issue is that all these things are not set up in a common manner in different makes of car... unlike the old 2 knob, 5 button radio that was pretty darn common in most vehicles for my first 25 or so years of driving experience.
Agreed. This is my biggest complaint about the move to fancier controls - each manufacturer is different so previously simple operations in a rental car like tuning the radio become nearly impossible. Seems like the rental companies could start putting a short guide on how to operate the key functions in each car.
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Old 08-01-18, 10:50 PM
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I have to agree with most of the above comments. I recently had the opportunity to drive an Infiniti Q50 for a few days while they worked on my car.

Really nice car, powerful engine and good ride.

But the control screen had way too much information to deal with while driving at freeway speed. Also, after just one day the shiny screen was covered in fingerprint smudges.

I prefer the old fashioned buttons.
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Old 08-02-18, 09:53 AM
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I remember the salesman explaining something commonplace then but new now when I was going to drive a new Mercedes back to the shop in the 80's. It was something like air bags or ABS, but it was new enough then they wanted to be sure I didn't mess up the expensive car.
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Old 08-05-18, 06:08 PM
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The Ford Fusion I drive at work has 67 buttons on the front of the wheel and the center of the dash. There are more on the left side of the dash and on the levers on the side of the wheel.
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Old 08-06-18, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
[left]Iíve no issues with touch screens, I use them daily as a theatrical lighting director. I get the point of the simple old toggle switch, ALA Apollo 13, but you canít re-program the function of hard wired stuff, like you can with touch screens and programming, thus itís hard to impossible to actually fix a hard wired mistake.
More on improvised manual switch fixes on the Apollo 11 mission:
https://www.cnbc.com/id/42592372
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Old 08-08-18, 06:32 PM
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I dread getting a newer car.

We have old vehicles: a 1996 Toyota Tacoma xcab 4x4 truck. Runs strong and reliable. Stick shift, roll down windows, manual door locks. Good stuff.
2001 Subaru Outback, paint looks bad but it looks fine from the driver's seat, stick shift, has power windows and door locks (meh).

We put new radios in both these vehicles. Didn't want CD players, just a radio and an audio jack for an mp3 player. Walmart had some $30 car radios that have a knob for the volume and you can put in an SD card with all your songs (hit the Random button and it's like having Pandora in the car). We've been happy with these cheap car stereos!

Like I said, I dread getting a newer car with more electronics and screens to look at. I only drive my car about once a week (I put 2000 miles on it in the past 12 months) so no sense spending money if my old Subaru still runs (even though it looks awful).
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Old 11-11-18, 09:13 PM
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Any idea what a knob does to the human body, in an accident, with the occupants unrestrained, even a low speed accident.
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Old 11-12-18, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 02Giant View Post
Any idea what a knob does to the human body, in an accident, with the occupants unrestrained, even a low speed accident.
The key there is "unrestrained." How does an unrestrained body react to hitting a large glass screen?
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Old 11-12-18, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 02Giant View Post
Any idea what a knob does to the human body, in an accident, with the occupants unrestrained, even a low speed accident.
Not as much damage as the old toggle switches. That's why we have knobs.
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Old 11-12-18, 07:10 AM
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The NHTSA dropped the ball long ago on this. It would very hard to get ahead of this now.
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Old 11-12-18, 09:33 AM
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Even though the new car's safety features are from 10 years ago, I still think of this video, of the days I used to be far more daring in much older vehicles than I am today.



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Old 11-13-18, 11:36 AM
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I have to agree....way too much electronics in new cars today!

I initially thought this tread was about manual vs auto transmission. I've been driving and owning vehicles with 3 pedals since 1976. It was not until 2015 that I bought my first auto.....2015 RAM Hemi Blackout Express. Although the Express is considered one model above "entry" it has electronic gizmos that I will never use.

I'm kinda missing driving a stick....but I digress.
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Old 11-14-18, 11:39 AM
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whatever happend to the good old knob?
They're the ones driving the cars now...
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Old 11-14-18, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
They're the ones driving the cars now...
"The only loose nut in that car is the one behind the wheel."
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