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Old 09-13-18, 10:41 AM
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I've pretty much erased 'Google' from my life.

Pretty hard to do when you have an Android phone but got tired of the company taking over my Droid with ads. I made productive use of Google for years at work and at home but completely cut the cord after having to restore Windows 10 on my laptop. Old habits are hard to break but now I am 'bing' person.

It wasn't political-- Google made my phone nearly unusable and I really felt like a chump, using Google to find out how to eliminate the annoying problems that it turned out Google was causing.
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Old 09-13-18, 01:54 PM
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Maybe you should get an iPhone
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Old 09-13-18, 02:05 PM
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Google is becoming evil.
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Old 09-13-18, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
Google is becoming evil.
There corporate slogan used to literally be "We're not evil" lol
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Old 09-13-18, 02:30 PM
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Duckduckgo? https://duckduckgo.com/
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Old 09-13-18, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
Google is becoming evil.
I'd say past tense, a.k.a. surveillance capitalism.

Evil's a strong word, I wouldn't go that far personally. How about toxic?

I use DDG, I have Google JS blocked, but the problem is all the other sites that use Google's JS libraries, like ajax.googleapis.com. It's everywhere.

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Old 09-13-18, 02:55 PM
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But they haven't erased you!
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Old 09-13-18, 05:03 PM
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They use Google to search for you.
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Old 09-13-18, 08:06 PM
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Microsoft/Apple are not any better.

I run my own sync server using owncloud so my data is mine and not sent to any of the big companies.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Maybe you should get an iPhone
Can't say it works for everyone but, currently using Microsoft's Edge on my Droid Razr Maxx HD for the search engine-- in sync with Windows 10 and Outlook and, as it turns out, there are alternatives to Google's Play Store on my Android phone...
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Can't say it works for everyone but, currently using Microsoft's Edge on my Droid Razr Maxx HD for the search engine-- in sync with Windows 10 and Outlook and, as it turns out, there are alternatives to Google's Play Store on my Android phone...
I run an android phone too, and can't help but wonder if the apps at an alternate site are any safer... I've gotten some real crap from the Play store...
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This.
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Most of the ads on BF are placed here by doubleclick, a Google-owned online ad agency. They know what you're looking at on BF, and they choose advertising to show you based on what you're looking at.

In other words . . . . you're screwed!
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I am running a Blackberry 10 phone, and don't understand what you mean by: 'ads'. However, these 2013 vintage phones are becoming stale, so I am considering moving to an Android-based phone (such as the new Blackberry Evolve). When mentioning Android to my cycling buddy, who runs an IT department, he almost boxed my ears.

Here is a question to the 'droid users out there... If I buy an Android phone, , do I have to register in any way with Google? That is, can I skip signing up for a Google account and use the phone? My plan would be to delete all of the Google apps, and obtain new apps from a source other than the Playstore.

Another option would be rooting the phone and installed a totally stripped-down OS and apps, but not possible with Blackberry.
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Most of the ads on BF are placed here by doubleclick, a Google-owned online ad agency. They know what you're looking at on BF, and they choose advertising to show you based on what you're looking at.

In other words . . . . you're screwed!
I get no ads from doubleclick, googleadservices and even their analytics are blocked on my home network. https://pi-hole.net/ . The biggest offender, according to the logs, is my Samsung TV. Rest assured, all its efforts to phone home are thwarted.

Nothing I can do about it when my phone is not on WiFi, though.

Also, my xenomorph stuffed animal wakes up every time I crack a beer. Not sure what to make of that...

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Old 09-14-18, 09:07 PM
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Most of the ads on BF are placed here by doubleclick, a Google-owned online ad agency. They know what you're looking at on BF, and they choose advertising to show you based on what you're looking at.

In other words . . . . you're screwed!
I don't know about Blackberry but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that 'Google' is so integrated into the basic factory install of a mobile phone's operating system that ever freeing yourself from Google's marketing department may well be impossible. It's a bit counterproductive to sales in that, now that I understand my platform, as long as it provides the minimum utility I require, I'm not upgrading...
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Old 09-14-18, 11:45 PM
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I've enabled Google to track me on my better phone. Helps to have an automatic log in case I'm hit by a car (which happened this spring, and nearly happened again a couple of days ago). If I happen to be found unconscious I'll have an objective witness -- Google maps timeline.

And it helps keep track of my many hospital visits related to my injuries. Occasionally there are changes in appointments so the actual visits differ from my calendar. Google maps timeline records the correct data. That came in handy Friday when a new doctor needed my recent urgent care clinic visit and it wasn't in the hospital's computer system. I was so sick that day I couldn't remember the day or date, but Google logged it for me.

It's all private unless I choose to share it. Of course Google has access to that info but so far I don't see any indication it's being abused.

However I do get prompts to review places I've been -- mostly restaurants, stores, etc. -- but that's an opt in/out thing. I can disable it.

My only beef with Google is it's become so resource intensive it doesn't work well on my cheap ZTE Android phone or older iPhone 4s. I can uninstall any Google products from the iPhone and just use it for basic communications and stick with Apple's walled garden, which isn't bad.

But the ZTE phone was hardwired into the Google universe. And with only a 1 GHz dual core processor and 8 GB memory, it's too slow and puny to function well. So I wiped it and tossed it into a box. It cost only $10 so no big loss.

My main phone is a Moto E4, not a powerhouse but adequate for Google and most apps I choose to install -- Strava, etc. But I use Google calendar, Keep for short notes, maps, etc., because it all integrates so well.

If I were still a working journalist or working in any data-sensitive profession, I'd be wary of using an Android phone that had Google hardwired into it. But that doesn't concern me. My personal data isn't anything interesting, and none of us can escape tracking if we're in most cities, ride public transportation, etc. Our lives just aren't as interesting as we'd like to believe and most data collected with be buried in a vast center underground in Utah, never to be seen again.
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Old 09-15-18, 12:16 AM
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How many smart phone OS's are there?
  • Android
  • Apple
  • Microsoft
  • Apparently a couple of Open Source Linux distributions. That might be fun.
    https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/
  • Blackberry
  • ====== That is all I can think of, but apparently there are a few more.
  • Nokia Symbian
  • Apparently a couple more dead operating systems including PALM.

So far I'm doing OK with Android, but I would like to delete or archive a bunch of garbage that I don't need or want.

I should, however, think a bit more about the open source phones. Maybe I can get Strava to run on an open source platform.
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I was off of Microsoft for a while.

Back on Windoze on my laptop at the moment, but I'll probably delete it shortly.
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We live in the post new world order its in plain site , get it . you cant avoid google , you will always be a part of it .
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My only gripe about Google is the way they keep discontinuing perfectly good stuff -- Picasa, various office productivity tools, even the built in editor on YouTube. Very annoying.

But the data harvesting stuff? Nah, I don't worry about it. If I was concerned enough there are ways to avoid it.

Now don't get me started on Microserpent. I've been fussing all week with my Windows 10 laptop trying to restore the video functionality. The recent major Win 10 update screwed my video so I can't get smooth playback with any photo editing software, and it'll barely stream Amazon at standard definition without stuttering. It's because Windows 10 looks for drivers to be updated, and if the drivers are old Windows disables them. So it disabled my AMD GPU drivers, and AMD no longer supports its own legacy products and won't even make available some older drivers. So unless I can find an unauthorized copy somewhere my laptop is permanently crippled.

Or I'll need to switch to Linux or Ubuntu or some such thing. Ugh. I just want my devices to work like home appliances, not like fussy pets that barf on the carpet and need constant attention. I already have three cats for that.
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Hey, I've done just the opposite... I've managed to erase myself from google. I used to be able to search and find myself on google... I seem to have faded away.

Can you google yourself, and find your resl life, on line?
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Can you google yourself, and find your resl life, on line?
I can't. Too much other stuff from miscreants with the same name.
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I just want my devices to work like home appliances, not like fussy pets that barf on the carpet and need constant attention. I already have three cats for that.
Good analogy... I didn't appreciate my phone acting like a dog pissing on my leg.
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Ugh. I just want my devices to work like home appliances, not like fussy pets that barf on the carpet and need constant attention. I already have three cats for that.
You have a Smart Home, right?

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410889,00.asp

@gugie's robotic barbecue even calls him on the phone from time to time to while it is cooking his dinner. Usually demanding attention for this or that.
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