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View Poll Results: What kind of motorcycling experience?
More than bicycling - mostly street
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32.76%
More than bicycling - mix
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6.90%
More than bicycling, but none street
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About the same, mostly street
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About the same, but none street
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Old 10-01-18, 12:28 PM
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I've been on bicycles, off and on, for most of my life, going through phases where I'm on a bike all the time, usually commuting, or very infrequently. Motorcycles see more miles and saddle time for me. I might have been out on my bike a few dozen times this summer, but I put 3k mi on my motorcycle.

Currently, I have an 09 Ducati Multistrada. Just sold off a 91 BMW R100R earlier in the year. There's an 88 Honda Hawk NT650 GT that will be back on the road this year, and another one that might work someday or simply be relegated to parts-bike status.

Relevant to photos above, I had a 05 Triumph Bonneville Black that was a bunch of fun. Not too many mods -- factory "off-road" exhaust and jetting, tach, HD Sportster bars, and a low backrest. Also spent a long weekend riding around on the backroads of GA/TN/NC on a buddy's Aprilia RSV Mille R, an earlier model V-Twin with the Oz wheels and Ohlins suspension. Damn fantastic bike, and if you can find them used, a screaming deal.
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When I was a kid I wanted a motorcycle. I even would've been happy with a minibike. In fact, in the early 1970s when Suzuki had a full-page ad for their 50cc minibike which started out "Dear Dad: Here are the reasons why I want a Suzuki..." I cut that ad out of Reader's Digest and taped it onto our refrigerator.
My Dad exhaustively and firmly refuted every one of their reasons.
I continued periodically begging for a motorcycle right up until the July following my high school graduation. That month, within a two-week period, three of the guys in my band all got into (unrelated) motorcycle accidents. I decided maybe I didn't want a motorcycle.

I've ridden as a passenger on the back of a motorcycle maybe a dozen times in my life, and if anything those experiences have only served to confirm that I really do not want a motorcycle! Though in fairness, I presume the guy in the driver's seat feels a whole lot more in control than the passenger does.

But yeah, I have never driven a motorcycle myself. Love riding a bicycle; can no longer even imagine wanting to ride a motorcycle.
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Been a Honda rider since I started, way back in 7th grade. with the ST70 mini trail bike my dad gave us kids and have owned and ridden all sorts of Hondas since then,....
Here's what i have now....

Bought the Honda VFR back new, in 1995. It's certainly C&V already at 23 years old, but I never could find a replacement that will give me the same satisfaction this bike has given me.....as even the newer VFRs are not as great a bike since this model, IMO and in many other VFR rider's opinion as the VFR had lost its sporting edge since this 4th gen and the 5th gen, and has leaned towards becoming more of a touring bike than a sport bike.
Interesting thing is, not all riding dynamics seem to cross over between bicycles and motorcycles. Things like counter steering do not seem to apply with bicycles. Maybe we still do it on bicycles but to a much less noticeable extent, maybe because of lower speeds and weights involved? Never had to "hang off" on a bicycles yet to get it through a fast turn either....
People who do not ride motorcycles seem to also think that it does not take any physical effort to ride a bike, but tossing ta 400+ pound motorcycle (plus protective gear) around on a twisty mountain road could really give you a work out, pus it take a lot of concentration and good visual acuity to stay out of trouble at high speeds and requirements for very quick transitions.
If anything crosses over is it is the need for defensive riding for both bicycles and motorcycles. Seems like us two wheel riders just become more and more of a target for looney drivers out on the roads as the years go by.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
I've been on bicycles, off and on, for most of my life, going through phases where I'm on a bike all the time, usually commuting, or very infrequently. Motorcycles see more miles and saddle time for me. I might have been out on my bike a few dozen times this summer, but I put 3k mi on my motorcycle.

Currently, I have an 09 Ducati Multistrada. Just sold off a 91 BMW R100R earlier in the year. There's an 88 Honda Hawk NT650 GT that will be back on the road this year, and another one that might work someday or simply be relegated to parts-bike status.

Relevant to photos above, I had a 05 Triumph Bonneville Black that was a bunch of fun. Not too many mods -- factory "off-road" exhaust and jetting, tach, HD Sportster bars, and a low backrest. Also spent a long weekend riding around on the backroads of GA/TN/NC on a buddy's Aprilia RSV Mille R, an earlier model V-Twin with the Oz wheels and Ohlins suspension. Damn fantastic bike, and if you can find them used, a screaming deal.
Had an 88 Honda Hawk GT 650 too (In metallic grey). Definitely one of the best bikes I ever ridden and owned. A "giant slayer" in the twisties, if set up correctly just with better tires, lower bars and a fork brace. I ran away easily from bigger, more powerful bikes like Gixxer 1000s and CBR 900s in the mountains with my Hawk. They usually only catch up with me at the last long straight at the end of a ride, where their HP takes over.
I remember the joy of taking sweeping long turns with the Hawk with the throttle pinned an with full confidence on the front end. I would venture to say that my Hawk was a much better handler than my present VFR ever was.
Wish I still had that Hawk, but I had to trade it in for my dream bike, my VFR. I hope it is still alive somewhere, and being ridding in the twisties or a racetrack.
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Limited, mostly off road. I owned and rode small dirt bikes off road as a teen and it was fun. Took friends street bikes out for spins. As a feather weight I never felt comfortable on a heavy bike, and frankly, the power scares the crap out of me!
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Used to own one, but that was over 40 years ago...
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
Had an 88 Honda Hawk GT 650 too... but I had to trade it in for my dream bike, my VFR.
I had a 94 VFR 750, like yours, but very much less modded. I never fell in love with it. It was billed as a do-any/everything bike, a good blend of sport/tour/everyday. And yet it didn't click with me. Seemed too heavy, and not enough torque on the bottom end for what I wanted. It was a superlative mile-eater on the highways, always seemed to be going faster than I thought I was, but didn't handle like I wanted it to, mainly because of the additional weight. In the end, not my style, and I traded it for a 97 Duc M900, which hit all the right buttons. Tried a VTR1000 SuperHawk, too -- all the power I was looking for with the VFR, but a tank the size of a Hawk. Boo.

Couple my other buddies have VFRs, a 94-97 gen, and a 98-01 800, which they love. I like to tell them that the Multistrada 1100s is what I always wanted the VFR to be...
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BMW R60, last bike I had.. should have had these bars to protect the Cylinder heads..

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Started out with a Trail 70, then my '73 Bonneville 750, then a Guzzi 850 Eldoradro, Plus a couple Husqavarna motos along the way
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I rode a motorcycle for many years, I gave it up since I couldn't keep warm while riding one, so I switched back to bicycling for short distances and used a car for really long distances, plus I started to feel too vulnerable riding a motorcycle at city/freeway speeds.
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Old 10-07-18, 11:23 AM
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BMW R60, last bike I had.. should have had these bars to protect the Cylinder heads..
Interestingly, I just took the engine bars off my ZRX1200R, and it looks a lot cleaner to me. I saw a funny post on another biker forum, something along the lines of, "With the engine bars off, if I drop the bike it'll look really ugly; with the engine bars on, it'll look ugly all the time."
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I rode motorcycles for quite a number of years, and even did a little traveling on one. Been rained on, snowed on, and even in winds so bad on the freeway that the big trucks were pulling off the road.
Those are some of the fondest and most fun years of my life, and I often consider getting another one until some idiot in traffic reminds me of why I haven't gotten another, at least not yet.
Some of the bikes I've owned.
Honda CL350 (late 60's)
Bridgestone 175 with a transmission that was switchable from 5 speed to 4 speed rotary at the throw of a lever. Like this ---> 1970 Bridgestone 175 Dual Twin | Bike-urious
Triumph 650 Bonneville, 1967 I think. My buddy had a BSA Lightning of about the same vintage.
1978 Suzuki GS1000E. My favorite of the bunch.
1979 or 80 Suzuki GS550.
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Been riding bicycles seriously for almost forty years and motorcycles for the last 21 years. Love them both for diffenrt reasons. Cycling keeps me healthy and helps keep the weight down and I've always loved the culture, bike racing, etc. However motorcycles provide a rush that bikes don't offer. I'm blessed to live near some great roads, farm country and mountains and both types of riding are great. Still, I've noticed that cell phones have really increased the incidence of possible danger for both. I tried to quit motorcycles about ten years ago but slowly it drew me back in. Having access to the internet and all kinds of forums, YouTube, etc. makes it had to escape the pull.

Now that I am nearing 70 I realize I must quit soon as my reflexes and not the same as they were. But so far I've just tried to convince myself that riding slower would be enough. In fact, I'm in the midst of selling my '14 Triumph Street Triple which is a GEM of a bike. But probably quicker than I need. I'm thinking I'll step down to a Triumph Street Twin. Also in the garage is an '88 Honda Hawk GT650 and I've had a couple of SV650s as well. Motorcycles are addicting and I'm very impressed with any of you who are able to walk away and be content with your bicycle.

Good luck, God Bless, Rubber side down, whatever you ride!
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
Nope, nope, nope.

Sorry guys, wrong forum. You can take it to Foo if you like, but the 41 is a bicycling forum.

Moved to Foo, from Road.
Yep, and a poorly construed Poll to boot.
"More" what?

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I road a Yamaha 125cc dirt bike for 3 years in the Congo, as a Peace Corps volunteer. It was a lot of fun - really bad roads and too much palm wine, I got some good practise learning how to fall.

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Motorcycles are addicting and I'm very impressed with any of you who are able to walk away and be content with your bicycle.

Good luck, God Bless, Rubber side down, whatever you ride!
I was surprised I was able to quit riding. Motorcycling was something that was a part of me for almost 20 years, but it just got to the point where it wasn't fun anymore. Plus my reactions had slowed down and my mileage had decreased enough to where the increasing risks due to distracted drivers in taller vehicles made the decision to stop the right one.
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Just found this thread. Been riding motorbikes since sneaking one home in 1977 and hiding it in my buddy's garage. CB350. Tore down the engine and put it back together over the winter that year. Very, very cold. It ran! Was hooked ever since. Never cared for go faster bikes, always attracted to the UJM or Euro models, specifically Moto Guzzi. Owned a Harley the summer of 81. Not my cuppa, and all too common. Had Suzukis, Hondas, Yamahas, but never a Trumpet or Ducati. On a cross country ride in 82 on a Suzuki GT750 (2 stroke liquid cooled) I came across a guy at a rest stop in Iowa riding a Moto Guzzi. He was riding all over the US that year and had some great stories to tell. Something about that bike moved me and I never got it out of my mind. After getting rid of an 82 XS 650 Yami in 2002 and drooling over an orange Moto Guzzi Stone all winter, I went in to buy it the spring of 03, but they sold it an hour earlier!! The last one they had.
Later that day was cruising the for sale items in the paper and what do you know, a black Jackal was up for sale. Bought it that day and haven't let go of it yet. Exceptionally stone cold reliable and very relaxing to ride. Been thinking of selling it because I am too comfortable on it. Need to be more nervous and alert to stay alive or in one piece. Motorcycling is not for the inattentive!
FYI, the GT750 was stolen in Berkley, CA. Cops found the frame 6 months later. Likely the engine was used on a race bike out at Laguna. Owned two of those models. So unusual and not another me too bike.
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only reason i dont is because i cant get a dl because of my epilepsy,
used to be motorcycle tech, and no shop can insure me.
and it is a felony riding a motocycle knowing you have epilepsy


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Interesting perspective that riding motorcycles might make one a better bicycle rider . . . I spent years (decades) telling motorcycle riders that bicycle riding would make them better on the motorcycle . . .

I too am about done with motorcycles for the same reasons that many have already mentioned- too much traffic, loony drivers, soccer moms, road rage, etc. I still love motorcycle riding- but the risk level is getting too high.

That said, I prefer the social aspect of bicycle riding. With motorcycles there isn't much conversation between riders until stops, or when the ride is over. With bicycles there is constant conversation and banter for most of the ride. Even when cycling solo we can interact with others we encounter . . . with motorcycles it is just a wave or a brief nod, usually with the anonymity of a full-face helmet.

To answer the original question- sure some of the skills transfer back and forth between motorcycles and bicycles- especially traffic awareness.
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Interesting perspective that riding motorcycles might make one a better bicycle rider . . . I spent years (decades) telling motorcycle riders that bicycle riding would make them better on the motorcycle . . .

That said, I prefer the social aspect of bicycle riding. With motorcycles there isn't much conversation between riders until stops, or when the ride is over. With bicycles there is constant conversation and banter for most of the ride. Even when cycling solo we can interact with others we encounter . . . with motorcycles it is just a wave or a brief nod, usually with the anonymity of a full-face helmet.

To answer the original question- sure some of the skills transfer back and forth between motorcycles and bicycles- especially traffic awareness.
I agree that the reverse also works. In either case, assume drivers are trying to kill you. I'd also bet that hockey players make decent 2-wheel riders, too, motor or not -- all about the situational awareness, spatial relations, and an innate grasp of vector physics.

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Hey! I know you...
Now about the social thing. I met @smoore through an online mailing list. The precursor to that list was a 'zine, and the successors were first a forum and then a FB page. All regarding the model of bike pictured above, the Honda Hawk NT650 GT. There was a community which raced them, and also a social community who would get together locally or at various regional rallies. Which is where I met smoore in person, along with a cast of other characters, some of whom I count as very close friends.

Social aspect is where you find it. And motorcycling is even better than bicycling for short attention span, ADHD introverts who need alone time, even if it is only within a helmet, riding alone in group of others...
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Hey Conlon...stop following me around! Are you shoveling snow up there yet? Hope all is well. Indeed, the social aspect of motorcycles while different from bike riding....can be good as well. Perhaps it's that sense of "we're all in this together, including the danger aspect." It's is a slightly different vibe, but I've found it does open you up getting to know people you may have never been exposed to otherwise. The only group to really be careful of are the new age/sci-fi/mystical types. Very scary.
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only reason i dont is because i cant get a dl because of my epilepsy,
used to be motorcycle tech, and no shop can insure me.
and it is a felony riding a motocycle knowing you have epilepsy


But at least you're out there on two wheels! Great looking helmet by the way.
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It comes up every now and then, so I'm kinda curious - how extensive is our experience with motorcycling, and how does it compare with our bicycling experience?
had 2 in the 70's , Like shown in # 34, last one... none since..

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I guess cause I was so into bicycles as a kid that when I traded a 64 Buick for a 79 Honda 50 when I was 12 ( traded a RD250 for the Buick ) that no one taught me to ride it I just figured it out. The bike that really taught me how to ride was my best friends 1979 Kawasaki KX80, the first bike with a manual clutch I had ever ridden at that point, not a good beginner bike at all, there was a reason that most 79-80 KX 80's didn't have a back fender on them lol. 38yrs and 500 motorcycles ( not all were runners ) later I have two old dirt bikes that are left from my youth a 1977 Kawasaki KD125 totally rebuilt and hopped up using a few 74 KX125's as donors I built the first KDX 125, Kx Gears, ignition, clutch, Cylinder head and carb were all made to work, it will keep the front wheel off the ground 2" through 6th gear lol, oh and it was custom painted by a friend back in the 90's, I have owned it since I was 14.

The second bike I have is my 1979 Honda XR250, I owned this bike on & off since I was 16, sold to a friend when I didn't have the money to rebuild the engine who sold it to another friend who traded me a KTM 420 I had for it in my early 20's. The Honda XR is now going to be a street legal XL250 as I picked up a titled frame and in all the years that I was doing motorcycle repair I saved every parts bike I got that used the same engine design and now have all the parts I need (except DOT tires ) to build it, 13yrs ago the motor was built using every high performance part I was able to get my hands on, bored 0.80 over with a 10 to 1 piston, SS valves, RD valve springs, White Bro's Cam, mild port work done & a Barnett Clutch, better exhaust and a little bigger carb installed, it was dialed in and put away not even broken in. I have also picked up a very rare Cal Fab Aluminum swing arm for it and a Clark oversized fuel tank and a few other goodies. I really miss riding and this will at least get me back out there locally. I have enough parts to keep both going forever in stock also.

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