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Old 02-14-19, 06:48 PM
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Apparently I am a member of a crime family

Apparently I am a member of a crime family. Both my brother and I have criminal records. `Well we are least according to Mylife.com. The truth is, the worst both of us have is a traffic ticket. They say he is also single. He is married. They say he is related to a bunch of people he does not even know.

I have done a search on the reputation of this site. Lots of complaints about the site including defamation of character like in the case of my brother and I. How is a site like this allowed to exist? Why have they not been shut down?

Have you looked your name up? What did you find?
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Does submitting your name then make it active in their database?
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Apparently I am a member of a crime family. Both my brother and I have criminal records. `Well we are least according to Mylife.com. The truth is, the worst both of us have is a traffic ticket. They say he is also single. He is married. They say he is related to a bunch of people he does not even know.

I have done a search on the reputation of this site. Lots of complaints about the site including defamation of character like in the case of my brother and I. How is a site like this allowed to exist? Why have they not been shut down?

Have you looked your name up? What did you find?
Facebook and Twitter haven't been shut down so don't hold your breath.
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Does submitting your name then make it active in their database?
That concern always dissuades me from plugging my name into any such sites.
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Does submitting your name then make it active in their database?
Nope. They already have a surprising amount of factual information on you.
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Facebook and Twitter haven't been shut down so don't hold your breath.
Facebook doesn't contain any information on you other then that you were stupid enough to enter.
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Facebook doesn't contain any information on you other then that you were stupid enough to enter.
Which is why every "social app" is a trap unless one is very wary.
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Data aggregation sites are prone to error. The more common the name, the more likely it is the site will mix data with unrelated persons. People with relatively uncommon names are easier to aggregate accurate data, especially if anyone in their family contributed to genealogy sites. Unfortunately folks who jumped into the genealogy hobby online 20 or so years ago unwittingly contributed data that was harvested and monetized by aggregators.

My full name is fairly common, and recycled many times throughout my family tree, so most data aggregators get my history hilariously wrong. They don't just mix up my data with other family members, but with completely unrelated people. The data for the past 20 years is mostly noise, conflated with many other folks with similar names. And my history beyond 20 or so years ago is nowhere online. As a result I'm effectively invisible online.

It's actually a little more difficult now to pinpoint personal data than it was just a few years ago. Due to various changes in laws and monetizing data, free publicly accessible data now is pretty much garbage compared with 3-5 years ago. Even if you paid for data you'd need to spend a lot of time sifting out the garbage, or hire someone to do it for you.

There's a theory (exploited by some political strategists as well) that because it's impossible to guarantee online privacy, a better strategy is to plant so much false information that it creates a hash of noise that obscures facts. As a result a certain type of privacy is created by discouraging casual searchers from trying to figure out what's real. You could make a mess of genealogy sites by inserting a lot of fake ancestry, effectively rendering them useless for data aggregators.
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Social credit scores for everyone, its not just for China.
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It gets better, you can submit a DNA sample, and find out all sorts of fun stuff.

I do find it amazing the amount of personal information the masses willingly volunteer.

There were wars fought over the right to privacy in our own homes, soon that won't exist either.

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Facebook doesn't contain any information on you other then that you were stupid enough to enter.
From what I hear it's worse than that. There's also the "shadow profile", made up of everything Facebook can glean about you from other sources, such as single-pixel GIFs on sites across the web. They're doing this to improve their product, i.e., information about you they sell to advertisers. What a scummy business.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/1...s-data-privacy
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^ The revolving door between major tech companies and most government agencies explains everything. ^
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^ The revolving door between major tech companies and most government agencies explains everything. ^
Yeah, and I just saw an article that says Facebook is *stepping up* those efforts. SMDH

https://gizmodo.com/facebooks-most-i...-va-1832532627
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I've avoided sites like that.

I posted a couple of weeks ago that Fedex wanted me to create an account to be able to delay a package delivery. And, wanted me to answer a bunch of questions about my past history.

However, most of the questions didn't apply. Or, they had near misses. For example asking about a county of a former residence, and being off by a county. Or, asking about a relative, and having the wrong state.

One of my personal policies is to only provide my birthday to financial institutions.

Perhaps I've inadvertently managed to scramble these databases if they're being given (sold?) unauthorized information.
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Old 02-15-19, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Data aggregation sites are prone to error. The more common the name, the more likely it is the site will mix data with unrelated persons. People with relatively uncommon names are easier to aggregate accurate data, especially if anyone in their family contributed to genealogy sites. Unfortunately folks who jumped into the genealogy hobby online 20 or so years ago unwittingly contributed data that was harvested and monetized by aggregators.

My full name is fairly common, and recycled many times throughout my family tree, so most data aggregators get my history hilariously wrong. They don't just mix up my data with other family members, but with completely unrelated people. The data for the past 20 years is mostly noise, conflated with many other folks with similar names. And my history beyond 20 or so years ago is nowhere online. As a result I'm effectively invisible online.

It's actually a little more difficult now to pinpoint personal data than it was just a few years ago. Due to various changes in laws and monetizing data, free publicly accessible data now is pretty much garbage compared with 3-5 years ago. Even if you paid for data you'd need to spend a lot of time sifting out the garbage, or hire someone to do it for you.

There's a theory (exploited by some political strategists as well) that because it's impossible to guarantee online privacy, a better strategy is to plant so much false information that it creates a hash of noise that obscures facts. As a result a certain type of privacy is created by discouraging casual searchers from trying to figure out what's real. You could make a mess of genealogy sites by inserting a lot of fake ancestry, effectively rendering them useless for data aggregators.


Well my last name is extremely unusual. There might be 20 people with my last name in the whole country. Most of them are family members and the rest are likely family members where we lost contact years ago. As far as I am aware, there is no one with my full name in the country and likely the whole world (it is a very ethnic name with an American given name).

My guess is the "crime" that I supposedly committed is some traffic tickets.
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I noticed that the "scan" of "known" information and who's searching for you or selling your data and so on looks scary without providing much immediate information, and makes you want to correct information, safeguard your privacy and even look into what the heck is going on. It makes me think that their business model involves us creating an account and providing more information for them to utilize.
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Originally Posted by genec
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That concern always dissuades me from plugging my name into any such sites.
Same here.

I've Googled my name before and gotten three pages about some European archduke from a couple centuries ago before I got to anything about me. I like it that way.

I've also never been on Facebook, but there is a guy on there with the same name as me. If someone gets sidetracked by him while trying to find out things about me, I don't mind at all.

When I read the OP's comment about inaccurate information, my first thought was "that's better than having all the correct information there for anyone to find." I'd rather have incorrect or contradictory information out there if anyone is targeting me for a scam or identity theft or whatever (and I realize they're not, but just thinking "what if" here).

I'm also suspicious of those "free" credit report sites. All they want is your full name, date of birth, social security number, and credit card number, right? What could go wrong?
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My sister has a really common first and last name, and had a lot of problems getting her drivers license renewed due to another person with the same name having done something that resulted in warrants. My sister is caucasian, the other person isn't and you'd think the organization that issues photo ids would be able to realize these were 2 different people but that wasn't the case. She eventually got things straightened out but it took a while.
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My sister has a really common first and last name, and had a lot of problems getting her drivers license renewed due to another person with the same name having done something that resulted in warrants. My sister is caucasian, the other person isn't and you'd think the organization that issues photo ids would be able to realize these were 2 different people but that wasn't the case. She eventually got things straightened out but it took a while.
It's been a problem for me also, 2,911 people in the USA have the same first and last name as me. (census search How Many of Me) Including some real nut-cases and criminals.
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Did you ultimately pay for the service?

I went and found quite a bit of info correct, but a mixed up timeline as to when I lived where.

Of course, in purchasing homes, it becomes part of a public record. (And then every scammer tries to sell you some "service.")
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Did you ultimately pay for the service?

I went and found quite a bit of info correct, but a mixed up timeline as to when I lived where.

Of course, in purchasing homes, it becomes part of a public record. (And then every scammer tries to sell you some "service.")
Of course not. It is a scam. Mamma didn't raise no fool. There are tons of complaints about that site. They have been sued a number of times.
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You're funny. Funny guy. Like, Rita Rudner funny.

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The future is here, its not quite so terrifying for me, most of the stupid stuff I did was pre-internet.
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Interesting. Reminds me of that episode of Black Mirror with Bryce Dallas Howard
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I have a great uncle who was involved in the Pittsburgh mafia and my brother's girlfriend (now ex) we found out her ex boyfriend is serving several hundred years for 2 murders. Oh, also he was the son of the hitman for the Chicago mafia.

So, I at least have some ties to crime families
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