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Old 03-16-19, 09:38 PM
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Spring is here, so are the pollens...

Getting warm outside and today it got to 62F. Tuesday forecast is for 72F.
Nice, except my itchy eyes after a bike ride.
Friday and today after a ride, took a nice shower, did rinse the nose with my NeilMed Sinus Rinse...
It is still very itchy for about 20 mins and them gets better.
Flonase works well for me, but never have ridden much around this time on previous years.
Do you have a nice trick to reduce the itchy eyes?
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Old 03-17-19, 12:07 AM
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Yeah, worst allergy season I've experienced and it's been nonstop all winter here in Texas. The other day I needed to huff my rescue inhaler six times during a 22 mile bike ride. The first couple of huffs only helped loosen the upper throat a little. Then I had to wait awhile to actually inhale enough to get down the bronchial tubes.

Several friends have complained about "flu" because they rarely experience such bad sinus allergies. Then they realize it's not flu.

Besides the usual prescription nasal and bronchial inhalers, and OTC antihistamines (generic Zyrtec, Allegra and Claritin), I was using pseudoephedrine and ephedrine almost every day. Bad for my blood pressure and heart rate. I stopped using Sudafed and ephedrine in December. My HP and HR returned to normal.

But by November the sinus pressure was so bad I was getting debilitating headaches, in the forehead sinus cavity between the eyes, with dizziness and nausea. Nothing helped. I happened to be in the hospital in late November and it took three hydrocodone over 8-12 hours to relieve the pain a little. After discharge I went to the urgent care clinic and they shot me full of Prednisone, plus some oral pills to take home, and antibiotics. It helped a little but didn't cure the problem.

By December I had bloody noses, blowing out blood clots while riding my bike and at home -- I've never had bloody noses, even when I was an amateur boxer. It was pretty disturbing. I went back to the ER but they said it wasn't an infection and not bad enough to warrant another dose of Prednisone. So, basically, "Bye, deal with it."

Being a skeptic I rarely prefer "natural" remedies. Most homeopathic, natural, organic, etc., whatevers are BS, based on voodoo, magical thinking and placebo effect. But occasionally one does what it's claimed to do.

I always prowl the bargain bins in the local grocery and drug stores and back in December bought a bunch of vitamins and supplements cheap, stuff I usually wouldn't buy at full price. It included a bunch of niacin (B3) and a sleep aid that included melatonin, valerian root and bromelain (an enzyme from pineapple).

Within a week the bloody noses had cleared up. I did some more reading about the effects of niacin and bromelain and discovered niacin is sometimes recommended to thin mucus and bromelain is reportedly an effective anti-inflammatory, especially for sinus problems. I was still skeptical.

After the sleep aid that contained bromelain ran out, within a week the sinus inflammation and bloody drainage was back. I bought a container of just bromelain and took it twice a day. Within 3 days the inflammation decreased and the bloody drainage was almost completely gone.

The bromelain and niacin have relieved the worst of the sinus pressure pain. There's still some stuffiness and discomfort but it's not unbearable like it was before. Occasionally I'll use a nasal spray decongestant -- oxymetazoline -- but not too often, since there can be a rebound effect with too-frequent use.

Eye drops for itchy, dry or watery eyes. But it only helps a little. There are different types of eye drops, some for allergies, some just for dryness.

It's been a tough allergy season. Try the bromelain for sinus inflammation, and niacin for congestion. It won't have the immediate effect of nasal decongestants, but you may notice some improvement within 3 days. And there are few or no side effects. It takes a massive amount of niacin to cause problems (liver problems) but the normal supplement dosages up to 500 mg should be safe. Some folks say bromelain also helps with digestion. I don't have chronic digestion problems so I haven't noticed any difference there.
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And along with "teh pollens", guess what else you get?



BEEZ!!!

Got stung on the leg last weekend, was sore all week long. Hopefully I'm developing an immunity, so it will be less painful the next time I get stung. I never understood the appeal of those so-called "Blossom Rides".

There's no better time to get stung, when you're riding through swarm after swarm of bees doing their work (and getting nosebleeds and allergy symptoms from the pollen).
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And along with "teh pollens", guess what else you get?
BEEZ!!!
Got stung on the leg last weekend, was sore all week long. Hopefully I'm developing an immunity, so it will be less painful the next time I get stung. I never understood the appeal of those so-called "Blossom Rides".
There's no better time to get stung, when you're riding through swarm after swarm of bees doing their work (and getting nosebleeds and allergy symptoms from the pollen).
I grew up in the farm on old days and got stung by bees on many occasions. Our good old medicine was to quickly get wet around the spot with our own pee
Always worked great reducing most of symptoms .
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The bromelain and niacin have relieved the worst of the sinus pressure pain.
Thank you for the write up - great you found some relieve for your allergy. And thank you for the various ideas you have on the post.
Mine is not so bad - It is the itchy eye after the ride that bothers me most. I do get running nose as well and some uncomforting throat but manageable.
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Rides yesterday afternoon to meet a friend at a bike shop, and today morning to the work and my eyes are so itchy for a while.
Will try the bromelain and niacin (one each time) and see if there is any effect for my case.
Whole Foods seems to have the bromelain and is a short ride from my route to home.
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Originally Posted by phtomita View Post
I grew up in the farm on old days and got stung by bees on many occasions. Our good old medicine was to quickly get wet around the spot with our own pee
Always worked great reducing most of symptoms .


Good thing it's "sterile", according to the internet.

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I prefer Phil Pollens myself.
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The Honeydrippers were far superior.
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Time for the old Kenalog steroid shots right up the old nose.

All you ambitious young century riders in the Midwest ragweed, or Tex / Okie panhandle mesquite country.

Got to get them get-ready-miles in.

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