Go Back  Bike Forums > The Lounge > Foo
Reload this Page >

Donít blame the school, blame yourself

Foo Off-Topic chit chat with no general subject.

Donít blame the school, blame yourself

Old 04-22-19, 10:15 AM
  #1  
Hondo Gravel
Voted For Pedro
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Hondo,Texas
Posts: 1,042

Bikes: Motobecane Boris Fatbike, Motobecane Omni Strada Pro,Fantom Pro CX, Fantom X7 MTB, Gravity SS MTB.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 540 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 67 Posts
Donít blame the school, blame yourself

Over the weekend I had to listen to rednecks blaming the local school for all of the problems. You know the typical excuses so I will spare everyone that The knowledge is there it is up to the kid to apply themselves ! A single teacher’s salary kept me from starving to death and is the only reason I have some nice stuff today. Now there were periods where I was a horrible student and that is on me and was totally my fault. Don’t blame the school blame yourself. I left and went on a bike ride instead of listening to that BS
Hondo Gravel is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 10:54 AM
  #2  
coffeesnob
Senior Member
 
coffeesnob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Va
Posts: 441

Bikes: Trek DS 8.3 - cannondale M500

Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2418 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
doesn't everybody blame everybody else for all of their problems?
coffeesnob is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 11:00 AM
  #3  
no motor?
Senior Member
 
no motor?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 6,076

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock

Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 955 Post(s)
Liked 59 Times in 44 Posts
I think that's the American Way. But if I can't blame everyone else, I usually blame ahsposo. It's always safer to start with the usual suspects.
no motor? is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 12:06 PM
  #4  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 22,404
Mentioned: 163 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8616 Post(s)
Liked 353 Times in 227 Posts
Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
A single teacherís salary kept me from starving to death and is the only reason I have some nice stuff today.
So you had a sugar mama who was a school teacher?
indyfabz is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 12:08 PM
  #5  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 22,404
Mentioned: 163 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8616 Post(s)
Liked 353 Times in 227 Posts
My high school had its own ski facilities, an indoor hockey rink and a planetarium, just to name a few of the amenities. I don't blame my school.
indyfabz is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 01:48 PM
  #6  
Kedosto
Ambulophobic
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Leandro, CA
Posts: 1,111
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 404 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 55 Posts
My successes are entirely self generated. Any shortcomings are the result of external forces beyond my control.


-Kedosto
*Merica!*
Kedosto is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 02:01 PM
  #7  
Lemond1985
Sophomore Member
 
Lemond1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,419
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 789 Post(s)
Liked 150 Times in 108 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
So you had a sugar mama who was a school teacher?
I did. That's when I found out what teachers in Texas are paid. Almost nothing. The old cliche about giving up a lucrative private sector job and taking a pay cut in order to work for the govt really holds true there. They are quite deadly serious about underpaying their civil servants.

Which is definitely not the case in Washington DC, or in California, or most other states.
Lemond1985 is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 02:06 PM
  #8  
wgscott
Occam's Rotor
 
wgscott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: The Timbers of Fennario (CL77)
Posts: 4,887

Bikes: Steel

Mentioned: 61 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2366 Post(s)
Liked 213 Times in 132 Posts
In CA, public high school teachers are paid rather poorly relative to the cost of living (housing in particular). Many districts have subsidized housing for teachers to try to retain them.

Where I grew up (suburban Chicago), our teachers (back then, at least) were paid reasonably well. The difference in quality of education really shows. You get what you pay for. (Sometimes you get lucky and get much more than you pay for.)
wgscott is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 02:56 PM
  #9  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 19,083
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7991 Post(s)
Liked 194 Times in 127 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
My high school had its own ski facilities, an indoor hockey rink and a planetarium, just to name a few of the amenities. I don't blame my school.
My (public) high school (in Connecticut) got into some Microsoft program and was given hundreds of state of the art computers, networking equipment, and software. I guess that was a good long-term investment on MS's part. We also had golf instruction in gym, wtf? The teachers were paid better then than now, I had several who were passionate about what they did and connected with the students. I feel like I got a pretty good education. Coming full circle, I'm a developer at MS now.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 03:35 PM
  #10  
Hondo Gravel
Voted For Pedro
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Hondo,Texas
Posts: 1,042

Bikes: Motobecane Boris Fatbike, Motobecane Omni Strada Pro,Fantom Pro CX, Fantom X7 MTB, Gravity SS MTB.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 540 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 67 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
So you had a sugar mama who was a school teacher?

Yes and she left me for the janitor! She said you make nothing riding those silly bicycles She didnít even know that Shimano and SRAM are different companies! But for the janitor! My self esteem has been permanently damaged.
Hondo Gravel is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 03:42 PM
  #11  
Lemond1985
Sophomore Member
 
Lemond1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,419
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 789 Post(s)
Liked 150 Times in 108 Posts
Yeah, but I can guess who gets stuck with doing all the housework now.
Lemond1985 is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 04:39 PM
  #12  
hazetguy 
Custom User Title
 
hazetguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: asheville
Posts: 1,067

Bikes: are filling up my basement.

Mentioned: 66 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 657 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 73 Times in 56 Posts
Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
Now there were periods where I was a horrible student and that is on me and was totally my fault.
You should have saved some of those periods for the run-on sentences you post.
__________________
No, I'm sorry, "28's and fenders" won't fit.

PLEASE DO NOT "LIKE" MY POSTS!!!
hazetguy is online now  
Old 04-22-19, 04:44 PM
  #13  
Hondo Gravel
Voted For Pedro
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Hondo,Texas
Posts: 1,042

Bikes: Motobecane Boris Fatbike, Motobecane Omni Strada Pro,Fantom Pro CX, Fantom X7 MTB, Gravity SS MTB.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 540 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 67 Posts
All I wanted was a Pepsi just a Pepsi.
Hondo Gravel is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 04:51 PM
  #14  
hazetguy 
Custom User Title
 
hazetguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: asheville
Posts: 1,067

Bikes: are filling up my basement.

Mentioned: 66 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 657 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 73 Times in 56 Posts
Well, we've been noticing lately that you've been having a lot of problems. You've been going off for no reason and we're afraid you're gonna hurt somebody. We're afraid you're gonna hurt yourself. So we decided that it would be in your interest if we put you somewhere where you could get the help that you need.
Hence, you are in Foo.
__________________
No, I'm sorry, "28's and fenders" won't fit.

PLEASE DO NOT "LIKE" MY POSTS!!!
hazetguy is online now  
Old 04-22-19, 04:56 PM
  #15  
Hondo Gravel
Voted For Pedro
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Hondo,Texas
Posts: 1,042

Bikes: Motobecane Boris Fatbike, Motobecane Omni Strada Pro,Fantom Pro CX, Fantom X7 MTB, Gravity SS MTB.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 540 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 67 Posts
Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
Well, we've been noticing lately that you've been having a lot of problems. You've been going off for no reason and we're afraid you're gonna hurt somebody. We're afraid you're gonna hurt yourself. So we decided that it would be in your interest if we put you somewhere where you could get the help that you need.
Hence, you are in Foo.

Hondo Gravel is offline  
Old 04-22-19, 09:50 PM
  #16  
Hondo Gravel
Voted For Pedro
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Hondo,Texas
Posts: 1,042

Bikes: Motobecane Boris Fatbike, Motobecane Omni Strada Pro,Fantom Pro CX, Fantom X7 MTB, Gravity SS MTB.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 540 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 67 Posts
Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
Yes and she left me for the janitor! She said you make nothing riding those silly bicycles She didnít even know that Shimano and SRAM are different companies! But for the janitor! My self esteem has been permanently damaged.
Actually I was referring to my mom who was a teacher and a single parent. We scraped by on her teacherís salary so I guess Iím a bit sensitive to how poorly teachers are paid. Texas always makes cuts in education and that makes no sense. Some districts here lose good teachers because of the low pay.
Hondo Gravel is offline  
Old 04-23-19, 04:32 AM
  #17  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 22,404
Mentioned: 163 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8616 Post(s)
Liked 353 Times in 227 Posts
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
My (public) high school (in Connecticut) got into some Microsoft program and was given hundreds of state of the art computers, networking equipment, and software.
Where did you go? My school also got a bunch of new computer equipment from some big company, as if it couldn't afford it itself. Can't remember which company, but there were a couple of dozen terminals with this cool new software that allowed you to type papers. It even wrapped the text automatically. No more typewriters. We call that word processing today.
indyfabz is offline  
Old 04-23-19, 06:18 AM
  #18  
jon c. 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 3,729
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 983 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 27 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
The difference in quality of education really shows. You get what you pay for.
I like living in an advanced first world society. But you gotta pay for it. I don't understand the folks who don't want to pay taxes but expect to have good schools, roads and other services.
jon c. is offline  
Likes For jon c.:
Old 04-23-19, 06:31 AM
  #19  
Lemond1985
Sophomore Member
 
Lemond1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,419
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 789 Post(s)
Liked 150 Times in 108 Posts
At the risk of going P&R, I would suggest that throwing still more money at dysfunctional schools will not make them any better. The entire K-12 education system in this country needs to be torn down and rebuilt, IMO. It's failing on every level and by every yardstick you could apply to it, and yet still costs us a fortune to pay for.
Lemond1985 is offline  
Likes For Lemond1985:
Old 04-23-19, 07:03 AM
  #20  
nomadmax 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 680
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 303 Post(s)
Liked 85 Times in 47 Posts
I'd be satisfied with the American education system if they would just teach one thing; the difference between "can't" and "won't".

Last edited by nomadmax; 04-23-19 at 11:53 AM.
nomadmax is offline  
Old 04-23-19, 09:01 AM
  #21  
bikecrate
Senior Member
 
bikecrate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: LF, APMAT
Posts: 2,243
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 432 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
My (public) high school (in Connecticut) got into some Microsoft program and was given hundreds of state of the art computers, networking equipment, and software. I guess that was a good long-term investment on MS's part. We also had golf instruction in gym, wtf? The teachers were paid better then than now, I had several who were passionate about what they did and connected with the students. I feel like I got a pretty good education. Coming full circle, I'm a developer at MS now.
This is how old I am...the ACME Shovel Co. teamed up with United Coal Ltd. to provided our school with all new shovels and lumps of coal so we could learn to write.
bikecrate is offline  
Likes For bikecrate:
Old 04-23-19, 10:13 AM
  #22  
no motor?
Senior Member
 
no motor?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 6,076

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock

Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 955 Post(s)
Liked 59 Times in 44 Posts
Originally Posted by wgscott View Post

Where I grew up (suburban Chicago), our teachers (back then, at least) were paid reasonably well. The difference in quality of education really shows. You get what you pay for. (Sometimes you get lucky and get much more than you pay for.)
Teachers in suburban Chicago are paid very well here, but not as good as the administrators.
no motor? is offline  
Old 04-23-19, 12:32 PM
  #23  
clemsongirl 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: california
Posts: 136
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 204 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 47 Posts
Originally Posted by jon c. View Post
I like living in an advanced first world society. But you gotta pay for it. I don't understand the folks who don't want to pay taxes but expect to have good schools, roads and other services.
A lot of what some would call ďfailing schoolsĒ are schools that enroll high proportions of students who need extra tutoring, social workers, guidance counselors, psychologists, and a variety of other interventionsÖ.and are in states that donít have strong education funding requirements in their state constitution. I see the right to a free public education for ALL children, especially special education students, as a good benchmark to have and FUNDING that as necessary for a caring and well educated society.
__________________
ĎThe negative feelings we all have can be addictiveÖjust as the positiveÖitís up to
us to decide which ones we want to choose and feedĒÖ Pema Chodron
clemsongirl is offline  
Old 04-23-19, 01:17 PM
  #24  
RubeRad
Keepin it Wheel
 
RubeRad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 8,563

Bikes: Surly CrossCheck, Moto Fantom29 ProSL hardtail

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked 56 Times in 43 Posts
Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
Over the weekend I had to listen to rednecks blaming the local school for all of the problems. You know the typical excuses so I will spare everyone that
I'm curious what problems they're whinging about
RubeRad is offline  
Old 04-23-19, 01:53 PM
  #25  
Hondo Gravel
Voted For Pedro
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Hondo,Texas
Posts: 1,042

Bikes: Motobecane Boris Fatbike, Motobecane Omni Strada Pro,Fantom Pro CX, Fantom X7 MTB, Gravity SS MTB.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 540 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 67 Posts
Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
I'm curious what problems they're whinging about
Mainly not wanting to provide the funds the school here desperately needs. The football team needs the money now Iím a football fan but oh never mind Just imagine of bunch of rednecks after about 12 beers talk about education then you can draw a conclusion.
Hondo Gravel is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.