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Old 06-17-19, 11:28 AM
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So she sits in her hotel room helpless?

So apparently this 19 year old college got "stranded" in Seattle because of a screw up by the airlines. A pilot had to rescue her by buying a plane ticket. Dad was ready to jump on a plane in Hawaii come out and help her.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ht/1475337001/

How helpless can you possible be??? She is a 19yo college student. Not like she is 9years old or has some kind od mental impairment. It is only 175 miles to Portland. Whay did she need to fly? There are trains and buses on a regular schedule to Portland. A train ticket is only around $30 or $40. She could not scrape that together and get on a train? She should have done that immediately instead of sitting in a hotel room. Unbelievable! . .
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meh. #badparenting
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$30 on the Bolt Bus. Took me less than 2 minutes to find this using Google Maps.

If this had been my daughter, I'd take this as an indication that I hadn't fully prepared her for adulthood.
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Old 06-17-19, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
$30 on the Bolt Bus. Took me less than 2 minutes to find this using Google Maps.

If this had been my daughter, I'd take this as an indication that I hadn't fully prepared her for adulthood.

There had to be lots of other people in the same boat (so to speak ). What about them? Did they all sit there helpless? Bet there is way more to this story, like she was not listening to the original airline rep.
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Not that I'm an old fart or anything, but one of my friends is a little younger than me and has 2 kids in their late 20's/early 30's. He wonders who is going to take care of them when he's gone (and they've both got well paying responsible adult jobs too), but it seems like they can't do much on their own and have come to expect someone to step up and help them when needed. Or desired. My GFs daughter is in a similar situation too, I'd offered several times to show her how to change a tire on her car but her mom keeps saying to not worry about that, she paid for roadside assistance on their car insurance and to let them do it. Guess who was up until 12:30 AM waiting for roadside assistance after she got a flat last week?

But on the other hand, this kid could have been in the Dominican Republic and needed help getting back for a much worse reason.
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She had a paid ticket to Portland. The airline had a legal responsibility to get her to Portland. How hard is this ?
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Old 06-17-19, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
Bet there is way more to this story, like she was not listening to the original airline rep.
Some people have genuine impairments. It sometimes doesn't correlate with low IQ.
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
She had a paid ticket to Portland. The airline had a legal responsibility to get her to Portland. How hard is this ?


That is why I mentioned above there is more to this story. Chances are she was not listening. There was probably a shuttle or flight that left in the morning. Regardless the responsibility for her ultimately rests with her.
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Old 06-17-19, 03:22 PM
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Most kids that age are so overwhelmed by the slightest curve ball that they just break down and do nothing. To be fair, I know plenty of people in their 30's-70's who are the same way, despite being of average intellect. They're usually the product of "helicopter parenting" or having relied on a significant other for too long. If my dad were willing to fly from Hawaii in that situation, I'd probably be a basket case too.

Also she was probably high as a kite on the devil's lettuce.
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Old 06-17-19, 05:04 PM
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OMG. I got tricked into watching a United Airlines promotional video.
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Originally Posted by BenzFanatic View Post
Most kids that age are so overwhelmed by the slightest curve ball that they just break down and do nothing. To be fair, I know plenty of people in their 30's-70's who are the same way, despite being of average intellect.
I think part of the issue is people replace instead of repair things these days, and have for so long. I remember being kind of surprised that the bike shops all asked if I wanted the parts I was buying installed. At first I thought they just wanted the business for the installation, but then I realized there were a lot of people that didn't know how to do their own tunes ups and didn't want to learn. A couple of times they asked if I was sure I could do the work, but after telling them I used to work on my motorcycles they seemed to realize I could install the parts I was buying. One of the things I just loved about Performance was being able to ask the mechanics about repairs I'd never done before when I got to those, and they were always extremely helpful.
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When my boy was 19 he and a buddy went on their "epic" climbing trip Squamish. Hit a deer in MT and totalled the car. Figured I'd be driving to MT to pick them up.
Nope, they figured it out. Sold the car to the towing company, shipped some stuff home, gave food to the pantry, hitchhiked to Bozeman, and got on a bus home. I had to drive downtown to the bus station. It took them a couple days and some help from locals, but they worked through it.
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I bought my ex a bus ticket to Hawaii
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Old 06-19-19, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
I bought my ex a bus ticket to Hawaii
Did she cross the bridge?

A man living in Hawaii was walking the beach when he spotted a bottle. He brushed off the sand and a genie appeared. Master for releasing me from the bottle I will grant you one wish.


The man said well I don't need much but I miss my family on the mainland. I don't have money for the flights but I would like to drive over on a bridge. Can you build one for me?

The genie said well master, even for a genie that would be a nearly impossible task, I am afraid I must deny you that wish.

OK said the man, can you make me understand women?

That bridge said the genie, one lane or two?
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Old 06-20-19, 12:52 AM
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Ditto, what Steve B. wrote. The airline had an obligation to make it right. She was overlooked. Her emotional reaction was different from mine, but no worse or better. Travel is stressful and even otherwise well adjusted kids can react badly to feeling stranded far from home. Not a big deal.

I used to travel a lot. Naturally there were occasional mistakes and the airline or hotel committed to fixing the problem or making good. On a couple of occasions, out of hundreds of trips, I was exhausted from weeks of nonstop travel and was a little less cheerful than my usual self. No temper tantrums but I was less than polite when the airline or hotel couldn't seem to get its act together.

I grew up moving a lot and learned to travel on my own before I was 12 years old. But that's very unusual nowadays. This was back in the 1960s, and wasn't common even by the standards of that era. But my single mom raised us to be as independent as possible. That's also very unusual. Back then most of my schoolmates from Italian and Jewish families were raised by helicopter moms, but that was a cultural thing. It was a little less common in larger families, as the younger kids tended to be free range while the first kids were still coddled until they were young adults.

IOW, nothing to see here, move along.
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I have several friends who it still amazes me have not been out of our home state. I tell them that flying is absolutely safe. but I can only image how the would react if the slightest thing went wrong during a flight somewhere. And so many people I know have an overstated fear of flying for various reason. For all we know the girl could have been suffering from a massive panic attack for some reason. I have had to talk down more of those in the airport that I don't even bother to count anymore.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Ditto, what Steve B. wrote. The airline had an obligation to make it right. She was overlooked. Her emotional reaction was different from mine, but no worse or better. Travel is stressful and even otherwise well adjusted kids can react badly to feeling stranded far from home. Not a big deal.

I used to travel a lot. Naturally there were occasional mistakes and the airline or hotel committed to fixing the problem or making good. On a couple of occasions, out of hundreds of trips, I was exhausted from weeks of nonstop travel and was a little less cheerful than my usual self. No temper tantrums but I was less than polite when the airline or hotel couldn't seem to get its act together.

I grew up moving a lot and learned to travel on my own before I was 12 years old. But that's very unusual nowadays. This was back in the 1960s, and wasn't common even by the standards of that era. But my single mom raised us to be as independent as possible. That's also very unusual. Back then most of my schoolmates from Italian and Jewish families were raised by helicopter moms, but that was a cultural thing. It was a little less common in larger families, as the younger kids tended to be free range while the first kids were still coddled until they were young adults.

IOW, nothing to see here, move along.
It is this kind of attitude that is screwing these kids up. Of course the airlines has a responsibility to get her to Portland. But the ultimate responsibility was hers. She could not even make a phone call?

At 18 I drove from Pittsburgh to Dallas by myself. Long before GPS or computer. I got to Dallas found an apartment and started my new job. The only thing I was told was where to show up for work. No one had to take me there. I figured it out on my own.

In my early 20s I was traveling the country on business. I also had to go to Montreal where (at the time) not everyone spoke English. Other than my company booking my flights I had to figure it out all out on my own. Get to the airport, rent a car then find the customer's location. Again all before GPS. No one leading me by the nose.

No one ever taught me how to do any of this specifically. What I was taught was to learn to think on my feet. Nothing more.

And there is no proof she was overlooked. It also could have been she was not listening , as in be in the lobby in the morning and a shuttle will take you to Portland. We just don't know. What we do know that in the end no one really cares. If you want help you either need to help yourself or at the very least speak out. She did neither. If I were her father I would either be angry at myself for not teaching her to deal with problems or if I did then I would be angry at her for not learning what I taught.

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Originally Posted by c0urt View Post
I have several friends who it still amazes me have not been out of our home state. I tell them that flying is absolutely safe. but I can only image how the would react if the slightest thing went wrong during a flight somewhere. And so many people I know have an overstated fear of flying for various reason. For all we know the girl could have been suffering from a massive panic attack for some reason. I have had to talk down more of those in the airport that I don't even bother to count anymore.

She got on a plane after someone agreed to pay so very doubtful. If she were that afraid to fly then jump on a train. You can be in Portland in about 4 hours.
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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
When my boy was 19 he and a buddy went on their "epic" climbing trip Squamish. Hit a deer in MT and totalled the car. Figured I'd be driving to MT to pick them up.
Nope, they figured it out. Sold the car to the towing company, shipped some stuff home, gave food to the pantry, hitchhiked to Bozeman, and got on a bus home. I had to drive downtown to the bus station. It took them a couple days and some help from locals, but they worked through it.
Climbers and hikers tend to be more self reliant. Great story!
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
Hitchhiking is a bad idea.
I figure it was more common before cell phones were widespread.

It happened to me and some friends in the pre-cell phone days when the drive shaft in the truck we were in dropped due to a u-joint that gave out.

It took us two hitched rides to make it the 70 miles home. Just so we could go all the way back the same night with my friend's dad to tow the truck home with a strap.

Of course, this was back when everyone thought it was okay to ride in the open bed of pickup truck, too. Which is what we did in the second hitched ride that day.
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my stories dont count. road a borrowed mtb across ireland. hitched across europe. rode a train across germany. bought a bike in orlando roda it home to birmingham. most recently. took took my bike on the train around the for a month played it by ear mostly. i want to do that a gain.
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