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Old 06-30-19, 09:27 AM
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Have you flown American recently or flying soon?

Have you recently flown American Airlines or will be flying soon?

I don't know if you have been seeing the news recently but American has been having a lot of issues with their mechanics. Apparently the two have been at odds for 4 years now. That is just ridiculous especially for the passengers. Mechanics are being accused of slow down.

Have you flown recently with American? If so, any issues? Are you flying soon? If so are you concerned

I really wish I had known about this mess before booking a flight. I may have picked another airline.

Doesn't help I originally had the perfect departure time, 10 AM. But do to this 737 Max mess that flight got canceled. Now I have a 7:25 flight. While I am glad no one is flying on a flawed aircraft, it still stinks that I have to get up at 4:30AM on top of everything else.

Originally they changed me to Chicago. I was in Chicago for over 2 hours. They added a new flight that left just a half hour early (through Phoenix) but gets into Portland 2 hours sooner than the Chicago flight. I switched to that flight. I can only hope I did not mess myself up by switching.

I really hate to fly. What a PITA.
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Old 06-30-19, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
Have you recently flown American Airlines or will be flying soon?

I don't know if you have been seeing the news recently but American has been having a lot of issues with their mechanics. Apparently the two have been at odds for 4 years now. That is just ridiculous especially for the passengers. Mechanics are being accused of slow down.

Have you flown recently with American? If so, any issues? Are you flying soon? If so are you concerned

I really wish I had known about this mess before booking a flight. I may have picked another airline.

Doesn't help I originally had the perfect departure time, 10 AM. But do to this 737 Max mess that flight got canceled. Now I have a 7:25 flight. While I am glad no one is flying on a flawed aircraft, it still stinks that I have to get up at 4:30AM on top of everything else.

Originally they changed me to Chicago. I was in Chicago for over 2 hours. They added a new flight that left just a half hour early (through Phoenix) but gets into Portland 2 hours sooner than the Chicago flight. I switched to that flight. I can only hope I did not mess myself up by switching.

I really hate to fly. What a PITA.
Are you old enough to remember when people dressed up to fly, and food service included real forks and knives, and airlines took pride in their meals?

Now it's just a flying cattle car with a mandatory "jewel" inspection beforehand.
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Old 06-30-19, 12:04 PM
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Last week, from SJC to ORD and back, no issues. In Feb, massive delays in Dallas. Almost didn't make it to DC in time for a meeting.
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
Last week, from SJC to ORD and back, no issues. In Feb, massive delays in Dallas. Almost didn't make it to DC in time for a meeting.

Delays because of weather? Or was it mechanical?
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Stuck in a flying tube like a sardine not appealing at all. Haven’t flown since 2009 and never intend to unless I get the chance to visit Australia and New Zealand. Was on American last time no issues but that was back in 09.
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Old 06-30-19, 12:32 PM
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YES, last two flights were both delayed for mech. issues. Both were major deals and one was an overnight deal. SUCKED.....co workers have had some similar issues with American. American seems to be failing IMO....now we use delta when we can. United when we can't. No more American!
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YES, last two flights were both delayed for mech. issues. Both were major deals and one was an overnight deal. SUCKED.....co workers have had some similar issues with American. American seems to be failing IMO....now we use delta when we can. United when we can't. No more American!

Oh great. What is done is done I guess. The good news is that I don't start my tour till the following day. If I can get to the bike shop before noon., I should be OK.
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Old 06-30-19, 12:46 PM
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The good news (I guess? ) is the union and American are going to court on Monday and may force the union to straighten up and fly right . Though I am not exactly sure how a judge can do that.

I don't know whay both parties can't figure this out. It has been 4 years.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Are you old enough to remember when people dressed up to fly, and food service included real forks and knives, and airlines took pride in their meals?
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Are you old enough to remember when people dressed up to fly, and food service included real forks and knives, and airlines took pride in their meals?
I can remember in the early 1980's on flights from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia would have a hot breakfast on the morning flights. The flight attendants used to really hustle to make that happen!

I can remember when airliners had seat configurations of 2 and 2 as opposed to 2 and 3. Might have been 737s. That was a long time ago.

Is the mechanics union thing something inherited from the American/US Air merger? I can remember hearing the crews whine and b-itch in the gate area loud enough for all the passengers to hear about grievances with US Air at about the time of the merger.

Good luck with your travels, Spinnaker!
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Originally Posted by Altair 4 View Post
I can remember in the early 1980's on flights from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia would have a hot breakfast on the morning flights. The flight attendants used to really hustle to make that happen!

I can remember when airliners had seat configurations of 2 and 2 as opposed to 2 and 3. Might have been 737s. That was a long time ago.

Is the mechanics union thing something inherited from the American/US Air merger? I can remember hearing the crews whine and b-itch in the gate area loud enough for all the passengers to hear about grievances with US Air at about the time of the merger.

Good luck with your travels, Spinnaker!
Into Newark too! But often I would be asleep. I would zonk right out as soon as the engines started. I can't sleep worth a damn on the plane now.

Nordair would have steak eggs and champagne for breakfast. Lunch they would have these little pizzas that were equally excellent.

Those were the days.
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Man, I miss flying all over the place...oh wait...no I don't.
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A few weeks ago I flew American from GJT to BOS, connecting through PHX. No problems.

In February I flew American from GJT to Raleigh, NC for work, connecting through Dallas. On both ways there were delays because of mechanical stuff. Ended up staying overnight in Dallas due to the delays on the way back to GJT (airline gave hotel and food vouchers).
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Are you old enough to remember when people dressed up to fly, and food service included real forks and knives, and airlines took pride in their meals?

Now it's just a flying cattle car with a mandatory "jewel" inspection beforehand.
This. I detest flying anymore. It has to be an undriveable destination before I will fly.
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Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg View Post
This. I detest flying anymore. It has to be an undriveable destination before I will fly.
I take the train, Only fly in the interest of time With trains delays are a given so build in an extra day for your travel. But a private room is the way to go. Just stretch out in your bunk when you feel the urge. I will be taking the train back from Seattle on this trip. Once I retire and have more time, I will take the train both ways, assuming they are still running.
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I fly American every time I go to work. I have not experienced any delays due to mechanical issues. I had a flight to Hong Kong cancel a month or two ago due to weather but that has been it.

My opinion: 1. Passenger loads. Flights are almost full all of the time. Cancel one flight and you don't have enough seats in the remaining flights in the day to a destination to carry those passengers. 2. Passenger Bill of Rights. Under that ruling, an airline can be fined a huge amount of money for each passenger if those passengers are kept on the aircraft for more than three hours. I'm trying to dredge up the cost, can't find it, but it is something like $17,500 per passenger. So a 737 with 170 passengers x $17,500 is almost a $3 million dollar fine. So airlines cancel rather than attempt to fly when weather impacts a hub. 3. Crew Scheduling. Crews used to have no limits to their schedule but after a couple aircraft accidents, duty day and flying hour limits were implemented. Airlines are scheduling to limits for duty day and hours flown during that duty day so any delays cause those limits to be hit causing the crew to go illegal. Throw in the added bonus of the pilots, the flight attendants, and the aircraft all have different schedules and one delay ripples causing an addition three different delays.
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
Stuck in a flying tube like a sardine not appealing at all. Haven’t flown since 2009 and never intend to unless I get the chance to visit Australia and New Zealand. Was on American last time no issues but that was back in 09.
I haven't been to Australia yet, but NZ is well worth the long flirtation with death.
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