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Old 08-09-19, 02:24 PM
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New computer keypad woes

I had a wonderful old Microsoft Sidewinder "gaming" keypad that broke a little, then I finished breaking trying to unbreak it. In particular the things that I really appreciated were a nice wrist rest, great key action and feel, and a row of various function keys across the top for tasks such as pause, sound control, a calculator button, backlighting....I could go on. I mean, I owned it for years simply because it has been a very good and very sturdy device.

I have started looking at new keyboards. I was simply astounded to find that the V4 of above keyboard was beyond $200. I guess I could consider how long the one I had lasted and figure it was a deal (ish). I went to a local store to look at it and wasn't impressed with the key feel at all. In respect to that I didn't like the feel of the keys, or the layout on much of anything in the store. Since I had to have something, I picked up a super cheap $15 Logitech model so I could work the rest of the day, and I am on the hunt.

Perusing seems to indicate a load of new keyboards with fancy RGB lighting, really square, no wrist rests, no special function keys....and prices all over the place.
I came across a Microsoft "ergonomic" where the keys are split, the keypad curved and contoured. Has anyone used this keypad and have any thoughts on it? From what I can tell it has nearly identical function keys across the top, but have never tried to use one of this type.

Any other suggestions I might look at?
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Old 08-09-19, 11:46 PM
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I've used the Ergonomic for years and really like it.. Caution--once you get used to it, a regular keyboard will feel weird!
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Old 08-11-19, 07:56 AM
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I have about a bazillion keyboards. It seems like they breed like wabbits. If you're sensitive to Ecch! don't pop the keys off to clean them, you'll find all your hair and what you ate.

Half the time it sits on my knees anyway. I like the ones that don't get messed up from slipping and hitting the floor all the time and those that can be yanked back up by the cord over and over.
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Old 08-11-19, 08:27 AM
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I have about a bazillion keyboards. It seems like they breed like wabbits. If you're sensitive to Ecch! don't pop the keys off to clean them, you'll find all your hair and what you ate.

Half the time it sits on my knees anyway. I like the ones that don't get messed up from slipping and hitting the floor all the time and those that can be yanked back up by the cord over and over.
I learned some time back that attempting to pull the keys off a modern keyboard more often ends in a missing spot...
I did a much better ruin than that. Apparently the ctrl key was sticking or inadvertently being activated. Since the keyboard was one of the spill resistant types...resistant being key here...I opted to try and wash it out with a light sponging with soap and some water. I then found out that it was, in fact, not water proof. I even went so far as to take the whole thing apart and pull the various membranes and electrical components out to dry. If I had left them just a bit longer it probably would have went fine. There was a reflective bit of paper like substance in there and I suspect it wasn't as dry as it appeared. I put the keyboard back together and it worked fine till the next morning. Further investigation after that showed several of the traces on the left side keys damaged. At that point the ctrl key was permanently on.

I mourn the loss.

So anywho, when I get back from a planned event-cation this coming week I will fully pursue finding a worthy replacement.
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Old 08-12-19, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
I had a wonderful old Microsoft Sidewinder "gaming" keypad that broke a little, then I finished breaking trying to unbreak it. In particular the things that I really appreciated were a nice wrist rest, great key action and feel, and a row of various function keys across the top for tasks such as pause, sound control, a calculator button, backlighting....I could go on. I mean, I owned it for years simply because it has been a very good and very sturdy device.

I have started looking at new keyboards. I was simply astounded to find that the V4 of above keyboard was beyond $200. I guess I could consider how long the one I had lasted and figure it was a deal (ish). I went to a local store to look at it and wasn't impressed with the key feel at all. In respect to that I didn't like the feel of the keys, or the layout on much of anything in the store. Since I had to have something, I picked up a super cheap $15 Logitech model so I could work the rest of the day, and I am on the hunt.

Perusing seems to indicate a load of new keyboards with fancy RGB lighting, really square, no wrist rests, no special function keys....and prices all over the place.
I came across a Microsoft "ergonomic" where the keys are split, the keypad curved and contoured. Has anyone used this keypad and have any thoughts on it? From what I can tell it has nearly identical function keys across the top, but have never tried to use one of this type.

Any other suggestions I might look at?
Good keyboards cost money. You can get ones without RGB wizbang if you want them; with many button mice extra non-standard keys have faded because they're less convenient instantly. It is a question of what switch you want, and how much money you want to spend. Drop, formerly MassDrop has several available all the time.

Ergonomics never caught on. That snake oil has been around since before digital computers were even a thing, and has been tried in a million variations over the decades. And has never caught on, because it is snake oil...other than confuse everyone where the keys are located. I remember using a Microsoft Natural way the heck back when.
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The deal nowadays is mechanical switches. 'Cherry' (and a couple other knock-off companies) make keys that provide tactile feedback like the old clicky-clacky keyboards (I personally love those). They even make separate ranges of keys that make different amounts of sound.

Go to a Best Buy or something, and go try typing on as many keyboards as you can, see whether you like best Cherry red, blue, brown, or can't tell/don't care.
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Old 08-13-19, 03:49 AM
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Clicky keyboards aren't any help if you can't type well in the first place. Hunt and Peck have a hit out on me.
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That's just sad. Touch typing is not that hard. Force yourself to keep your left 4 fingers on asdf and your right 4 fingers on jkl; and hunt and peck from that static position, and within a week you'll be touch typing.

Or, take advantage of the fact you can't touch-type yet, and teach yourself dvorak; then you can be a more efficient typer than anybody else (and not be able to touch type on anybody else's keyboard)
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Old 08-13-19, 11:34 AM
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^ Yup, I taught myself to type pretty much that exact way. My issues now have to do with I always use my right hand to do shift key, I can't break it, and finding some of the punctuation marks.
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I have an old IBM buckling spring keyboard. I love the thing. The keyboard is a tank. The keyboard just keeps working working. Shame about the noise though. I don't think my work colleagues appreciate the keyboard as much as I do, that's for sure.
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Old 08-13-19, 01:32 PM
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I bought for the home/family computer this Eagletec KG010 keyboard with 'blue' (cloned from Cherry-brand Blue switches) that are super loud and clicky and I love it. Except when somebody else is typing and I'm trying to watch TV
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