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Old 02-13-20, 02:42 PM
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My part in saving the planet

Have about 600 bucks stashed in a piggy bank that has taken 10 years but heck it’s free money for trash. I wait until aluminum prices are high bag them up and haul them in. Now some of those cans I actually drank not the whole pile!



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Old 02-13-20, 03:18 PM
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When I lived in Michigan, we used to get 10 cents per can we turned in. Made a decent addition to my allowance cleaning up the roads as a kid.
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I drink wine. Less packaging. Producing aluminum is a nasty business. I had a summer job at Alcoa after my first year of law school. Went to visit a production facility outside of Evansville, IL. Saw all the steps that go into making can sheet from aluminum oxide powder, which was brought up the river in barges. The place even had gold rolls that would end up as Miller Beer cans and some coated stuff for Mighty Dog dog food. Incredibly interesting to see, but not a pretty process. Had its own coal fired power plant to produce the massive amount of electricity used in the reduction process.
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I've been saving mine and turning them in 2 or 3 times a year. But now my local center has payout for aluminium cans at an all time low... 20 cents a pound I believe. I might just start tossing them in with my other recycle materials that get picked up and save the hassle.
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20c/pound? It takes about 31 cans to make a pound, so that's less than 1c/can. No per-can CRV in your state?
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Old 02-14-20, 06:36 PM
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20c/pound? It takes about 31 cans to make a pound, so that's less than 1c/can. No per-can CRV in your state?
Not that long ago it was up around .38 cents a pound. This facility is on my work commute, going out of my way for a few cents more wouldn't be feasible.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
.. to produce the massive amount of electricity used in the reduction process.
An aluminum making industry grew up around Niagara Falls because it's power plant enabled by the falls. Hard to believe, but aluminum was, at one time, a rare and expensive metal.
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"Not the whole pile", wink, wink.win.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
20c/pound? It takes about 31 cans to make a pound, so that's less than 1c/can. No per-can CRV in your state?
Only in 10 states, as far as I know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contai..._United_States

Back in the day, I remember getting back glass soda bottle deposit money here in Texas. Then plastic soda bottles took over.
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Old 02-17-20, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
Have about 600 bucks stashed in a piggy bank that has taken 10 years but heck it’s free money for trash. I wait until aluminum prices are high bag them up and haul them in. Now some of those cans I actually drank not the whole pile!


Looks like you have an escapee caught on your security camera.
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick View Post
Not that long ago it was up around .38 cents a pound. This facility is on my work commute, going out of my way for a few cents more wouldn't be feasible.

You need to save up all them cans and road trip 'em, Kramer style. Current aluminum can rate in my area is $1.85/lb.

But don't actually do that, though. It's apparently illegal here, just like everything else.
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You need to save up all them cans and road trip 'em, Kramer style.
"Newman, did you see that sign back there? Fresh apple pies!"
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Old 02-17-20, 09:58 PM
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Looks like you have an escapee caught on your security camera.

A can or two escapes through the wire fencing but is always recaptured and sent to the recycling center. NO aluminum can will ever escape.
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That pile of cans would bring a nice return where I live. It would be a dime per can at my local recycling depot. Think of the bike parts you could buy with that kind of mad money.
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Old 02-18-20, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FiftySix View Post
Only in 10 states, as far as I know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contai..._United_States

Back in the day, I remember getting back glass soda bottle deposit money here in Texas. Then plastic soda bottles took over.
I recall the implementation here in Michigan. The impact on roadside trash was almost magical.
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My daughter came home from school one day and informed me it was Earth day and we should recycle.

So, I got one of the old garbage cans and said we'll save our aluminum cans.

We saved them for years. 3 or 4 years I think. I had a Ford Escape at the time. I filled up the Ford Escape and drove 20 miles at 20 mpg and $4/gallon to the recycling center. I got $6.35 I think, then drove 20 miles at 20 mpg and $4/gallon back home.

I didn't have the money to spend more money than I got back on recycling, plus I didn't like the garage being filled with aluminum cans for years and years so we just threw them away after that.
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Originally Posted by mrodgers View Post
My daughter came home from school one day and informed me it was Earth day and we should recycle.

So, I got one of the old garbage cans and said we'll save our aluminum cans.

We saved them for years. 3 or 4 years I think. I had a Ford Escape at the time. I filled up the Ford Escape and drove 20 miles at 20 mpg and $4/gallon to the recycling center. I got $6.35 I think, then drove 20 miles at 20 mpg and $4/gallon back home.

I didn't have the money to spend more money than I got back on recycling, plus I didn't like the garage being filled with aluminum cans for years and years so we just threw them away after that.
Yup, a few trips was a wash after the gas expense nullified any profit. But heck I got rid of some trash. I wait until it is around 60 cents a pound then it pays.
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This is like a Miller beer commercial
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Originally Posted by mrodgers View Post
My daughter came home from school one day and informed me it was Earth day and we should recycle.

So, I got one of the old garbage cans and said we'll save our aluminum cans.

We saved them for years. 3 or 4 years I think. I had a Ford Escape at the time. I filled up the Ford Escape and drove 20 miles at 20 mpg and $4/gallon to the recycling center. I got $6.35 I think, then drove 20 miles at 20 mpg and $4/gallon back home.

I didn't have the money to spend more money than I got back on recycling, plus I didn't like the garage being filled with aluminum cans for years and years so we just threw them away after that.
Iowa 5/deposit can or bottle, always get returned about 1 miles away; gas costs =$0.00, probably get at least 40 miles to a quart of beer.


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This is like a Miller beer commercial
THIS is a Miller beer commercial!
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Last time I took in crushed cans, it was right around $200. Not nearly as good as a milk crate full of copper wire (which we pulled out while demo'ing the burned husk of a convenience store,) though-- that fetched almost $300.

This is why California crackheads pull the pipes and wires out of walls, and steal the old '50s guardrails from the freeway-- before galvanized, they were aluminum.
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Iowa 5/deposit can or bottle, always get returned about 1 miles away; gas costs =$0.00, probably get at least 40 miles to a quart of beer.


You sure like that Blue Moon. Im downing a 6 of Belgian White this evening. Makes sense to me sense my grandparents immigrated from Belgium
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You sure like that Blue Moon. Im downing a 6 of Belgian White this evening. Makes sense to me sense my grandparents immigrated from Belgium
Is that also a case of Yuengling I see on top? I remember once teaching at a summer program at Dickinson College, and one of the veteran teachers advised me 'around here, yuengling is cheaper than water'. I drank plenty of it that summer (still have a scar on my hand to prove it), but eventually realized lager is disgusting. Ale is where it's at.
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Is that also a case of Yuengling I see on top?
Yes, it is. I always bring back a few cases when I travel back East to visit relatioves. I do not share your opinion about Yuengling and I have been drinking it when available ever since collegedays over 50 years ago.

Better yet, the Yuengling cans are marked for 5 IA return, but did not require paying the deposit when bought in Pa.
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I get it. Billions of people don't share my opinion about lager. You are in the majority. I wish I had the technical terms to state precisely what element of lager flavor I always find to be present and objectionable, but usually not in ales (unless I find them 'lager-y').
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