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Old 09-15-20, 09:19 AM
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Well, crap, literally

When we purchased this house one of the greatest things about it was it had it's original high flush toilets. The ones that run like 3 gallons of water a flush. The ones you can dump a big crap in, half a roll of toilet paper and still flushes with one press. (Trump wasn't wrong). WELL. The one in the main bathroom broke, like for real cracked, when one of our son's big friends sat on it. We had to replace that one with a low flush "efficiency" toilet. I took all the parts out of it and waved a teary goodbye.

The one in our bathroom has been going strong in spite of a few old water stains that refuse to come out. Don't care. Private bathroom and flushes things down properly. Until a couple of days ago.

I was not aware that "high flush" parts as an entirety have gone away. You can not find anything but the "1.5 Gallon" fill tubes in the stores any more. Unfortunately the old toilet will NOT work right with the low flush fill, there simply is not enough water to empty properly. So, three flushes and half a time a pitcher of water later....

Is anyone aware of a place that sells the old high flush (long fill tube) parts? I REALLY don't want to change out this toilet. I love it so.
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What part are you talking about exactly?


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This is the age of the internet. You can find anything you want or need on the internet. All you have to do is be willing to use something called Google. Maybe you've heard of it. There's this box where you can type quite literally anything you want. And when you press return, bingo magico, you get links to all sorts of things. Seriousy, Google "Vintage Toilet Parts". You'll find what you need.
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Maybe switchover to pressure-assist system like flushmate ones ? https://www.flushmate.com/ If you like the Ba-whoosh of the old-style, you'll probably like the BA-WHOOSH of pressure-assist.
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Originally Posted by MntnMan62 View Post
This is the age of the internet. You can find anything you want or need on the internet. All you have to do is be willing to use something called Google. Maybe you've heard of it. There's this box where you can type quite literally anything you want. And when you press return, bingo magico, you get links to all sorts of things. Seriousy, Google "Vintage Toilet Parts". You'll find what you need.

I love when folks do this. You are not only being super duper helpful, but pointing out a great way to make forums completely pointless (like they are).
Thanks Capt Obvious. I am going to put you in for a promotion in rank. I bet you would make a great Major Obvious, or perhaps Lieutenant Commander Obvious if you swing that way....

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Originally Posted by jadocs View Post
What part are you talking about exactly?


Fill valve as an assy.

The one that came out was a good 2" taller and unfortunately I don't have it to compare. The stores only had the little stubby ones.
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Are you saying you can't get a tube with a float that fills your tank to the old level? Because that sounds like a pretty easy fix... so easy that I don't think I'm picturing your problem correctly.

The flush volume has to do with the size of your tank, not the size of the filling assembly.

Beyond that, the newer low flush toilets really are pretty good...they could probably flush a boulder. Trump was wrong.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Are you saying you can't get a tube with a float that fills your tank to the old level? Because that sounds like a pretty easy fix... so easy that I don't think I'm picturing your problem correctly.

The flush volume has to do with the size of your tank, not the size of the filling assembly.

Beyond that, the newer low flush toilets really are pretty good...they could probably flush a boulder. Trump was wrong.
and dual flush toilets work well for both water conservancy or a bigger flush......and trump (and the op) is wrong on most everything!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
I love when folks do this. You are not only being super duper helpful, but pointing out a great way to make forums completely pointless (like they are).
Thanks Capt Obvious. I am going to put you in for a promotion in rank. I bet you would make a great Major Obvious, or perhaps Lieutenant Commander Obvious if you swing that way....

Are you telling me this site doesn't have what you are looking for?

https://www.plumbingsupply.com/casepictures.html
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Originally Posted by MntnMan62 View Post
Are you telling me this site doesn't have what you are looking for?

https://www.plumbingsupply.com/casepictures.html
That was FAR more helpful, however I am not sure my toilet is $250 worth of vintage...I mean hell, 3 flushes and a pitcher every time are STILL cheaper than that. Whew!
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Are you saying you can't get a tube with a float that fills your tank to the old level? Because that sounds like a pretty easy fix... so easy that I don't think I'm picturing your problem correctly.

The flush volume has to do with the size of your tank, not the size of the filling assembly.

Beyond that, the newer low flush toilets really are pretty good...they could probably flush a boulder. Trump was wrong.

Do tell.

Yeah, none of them allow for the fill height. Aside from the $250 one linked above, these are typically about $15, but none are tall enough. I would be interested in your "easy fix", and especially if it's cheap.

I will probably end up listening to a couple more bull**** posts and ponying up for a new "turbo flush" POS new style efficiency toilet anyway. Dammit!

As a side edit- I am thinking that your soy boy toots may not be the MAN ****s that myself and my man Trump are laying, but hey...

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The low-volume, non-assist flush toilet I have in my master bath flushes completely with a single flush. At 1.6G, it competes favorably with any toilet I have ever used.

Probably can't compete with carry distance in the sewer. *shrugs*
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^^^ so you are really saying that you are not as FULL OF S#*T as the rest of us
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
Fill valve as an assy.

The one that came out was a good 2" taller and unfortunately I don't have it to compare. The stores only had the little stubby ones.
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Are you saying you can't get a tube with a float that fills your tank to the old level? Because that sounds like a pretty easy fix... so easy that I don't think I'm picturing your problem correctly.

The flush volume has to do with the size of your tank, not the size of the filling assembly.

Beyond that, the newer low flush toilets really are pretty good...they could probably flush a boulder. Trump was wrong.
Diablo is right... the volume is based on the tank, not the filler. The really old systems were just a float on an arm... not that tube thing. That float on an arm arrangement will fill a swimming pool, if located correctly.

BTW the biggest improvement to the commode is the way the siphon at the bottom, is designed... a small amount of water pushes the contents of the bowl toward that siphon, but the shape and curve of the siphon itself is what makes stuff "whoosh" away... Sure, the water going in starts the action... but only to overcome the height of the siphon loop.

Some toilet designs hide the siphon... in a base that disguises it... some make it obvious.
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
Do tell.

Yeah, none of them allow for the fill height. Aside from the $250 one linked above, these are typically about $15, but none are tall enough. I would be interested in your "easy fix", and especially if it's cheap.
Are you saying that the fill valve assembly won't fill the tank to the height of the overflow tube? Or the overflow tube is too short?

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That was FAR more helpful, however I am not sure my toilet is $250 worth of vintage...I mean hell, 3 flushes and a pitcher every time are STILL cheaper than that. Whew!
Hey dude. If you want to stick with the vintage stuff, you gotta be prepared to pony up for the privilege. I know because I kept the pedestal sink, toilet and tub from a vintage 1927 bathroom when we did a gut remodel. I'm sure if you search the site or even call them you can find just the parts you need instead of buying an entire kit that has stuff you don't need. And I think you owe me an apology for your outburst that was, well, literally, crap.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Are you saying that the fill valve assembly won't fill the tank to the height of the overflow tube? Or the overflow tube is too short?

Please, carefully read the OP and #6 really slow.

I am not particularly "getting" what is hard to understand about it. (it has to be something to do with me being a red headed left hander)

The old style fill valve and float (in addition to a tank sizing difference) are now designed SHORTER than they were. There are NO LONGER ONES available in any store around me. I would imagine that even tall tank efficiency toilet would have issue. At the highest setting available to the fill tube(s) available to purchase my tank is filling about half way. The bowl is filling about 3/4 of the way.
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Hey dude. And I think you owe me an apology for your outburst that was, well, literally, crap.

Lol, well...keep waiting sunshine. The LAST thing I needed was having someone suggest "search Google". It's dismissive and lazy. You could have just as readily not posted than to say that. Like it, don't, care not and I am sure you feel the same way.
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Lol, well...keep waiting sunshine. The LAST thing I needed was having someone suggest "search Google". It's dismissive and lazy. You could have just as readily not posted than to say that. Like it, don't, care not and I am sure you feel the same way.
Hah! Sounds good. The next time you seek some help here and I have information that can help you, I'll just keep it to myself. I'm sure that will make you much happier cupcake.
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Deactivated years ago when a freeze busted the pipes. This thing is a water waster and flushes big, swirls around forever. Might fix it up again in the future. Good for a barn commode.

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Maybe switchover to pressure-assist system like flushmate ones ? https://www.flushmate.com/ If you like the Ba-whoosh of the old-style, you'll probably like the BA-WHOOSH of pressure-assist.
That ^ right there.

I got a pair of those bad boys in handicap height and it'll flush golf balls out to the street They've had a couple recalls on the plastic tanks but they contacted me about it and sent me the replacement parts. I did the R&R myself and if I remember right they sent me a check for my labor. The ONLY downside is in the middle of the night flushing is an awakening experience (it's loud). If I was a doper and thought the cops would raid my house I would definitely have a couple of these. They could take a half a key of dope with one flush.
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
Fill valve as an assy.

The one that came out was a good 2" taller and unfortunately I don't have it to compare. The stores only had the little stubby ones.
You can twist the assembly to adjust the height. Are you saying that even when extended it's too short?
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The attitude of this OP really only deserves the following:







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Lol, well...keep waiting sunshine. The LAST thing I needed was having someone suggest "search Google". It's dismissive and lazy. You could have just as readily not posted than to say that. Like it, don't, care not and I am sure you feel the same way.
actually being lazy is asking a question that’s easily answered by DOING a goggle search and saying even the suggestion is dismissive.…

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The ones you can dump a big crap in, half a roll of toilet paper and still flushes with one press.
but then from this thread we now actually know you’re full of……and like wasting water and toilet paper
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Originally Posted by MntnMan62 View Post
The attitude of this OP really only deserves the following:







Lol, I can see you and "Clemmy" are already buddies.

No. It's a forum. It's a place to discuss, even when you COULD just search Google.
I am sure that your withholding any other of your brilliant suggestions will be a major blow to my well being. I really hate that for myself.
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