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Old 10-09-20, 03:17 PM
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People with sleep apnea, did you suspect this before finding out?

I am fairly certain I probably have some element of sleep apnea and have a sleep study coming up in a few weeks. It's particularly hard today waking up after 7 hours of sleep and feeling completely unrefreshed, which has been ongoing intermittently for 4 years, including the weight gain, eye bags, puffy face, high blood pressure, and attention issues. I don't snore but have had 2 episodes (when on my back) of feeling like I couldn't breathe that woke me up. Epworth score is only a 4, which isn't revealing, but the stop-bang questionnaire is high risk for OSA. Kind of worried since the long term effects are awful if untreated. For people that have had CPAP prescribed or other interventions, has it been pretty lifechanging?

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Old 10-09-20, 03:37 PM
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Buddy of mine always looked like the walking dead I figured it was because of his x wife I said dude go have a sleep study something is wrong. Yup, sleep apnea and machine helped him tremendously. Then he married my cousin and I warned him what he was getting into. Now he looks beat up and run down years before his time. I said don’t whine to me I warned you.
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Try raising the head of your bed about 3 inches.
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Old 10-10-20, 02:37 PM
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I pretty much knew I had it. I didn't know how much it was affecting me. I would wake up in stress, have to pee, get a headache, and have a brandy or something to get back to sleep. Wake-up time was always miserable.

My first night on CPAP at home was the first time I'd slept through a whole night in years. Six years ago.
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Old 10-10-20, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EJ123 View Post
For people that have had CPAP prescribed or other interventions, has it been pretty lifechanging?
Yes, absolutely. I can't imagine what it would be like without CPAP. I have been on one for around twenty years and just got a new one (third one) a few weeks ago. They've come a long way since then. My new one has a built in modem that my pulmonologist can download data to/from remotely. Used to have to take it in each time. Totally silent now as well. Get your sleep study and CPAP. You won't regret it.
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Old 10-10-20, 08:21 PM
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Yes, absolutely. I can't imagine what it would be like without CPAP. I have been on one for around twenty years and just got a new one (third one) a few weeks ago. They've come a long way since then. My new one has a built in modem that my pulmonologist can download data to/from remotely. Used to have to take it in each time. Totally silent now as well. Get your sleep study and CPAP. You won't regret it.
That's really good to hear. I don't mind the fact of wearing CPAP if it came to it (sucks to do) but I just would want the fatigue and always feeling tired to end.
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Old 10-11-20, 01:21 AM
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I had a sleep study a few years ago because I was falling asleep at work. I slept like a baby and they congratulated me. It turned out to be the powerful heart medications that I was taking, in combination with sleep deprivation from having twin infants. I later had a surgery that has somewhat improved my heart, too, and got me off those meds.
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Yeah, I was pretty certain I had it. Fuzzy headedness, waking up feeling un refreshed, all the usual signs.
I've had a CPAP for over 5 years, and it was life changing.
This cartoon image is not really much of an exaggeration of what you're in for.
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Old 10-11-20, 08:17 AM
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I'm sure have have some degree of sleep apnea. I've considered having a sleep study done. I'm just not sure it would work for me. I sleep on my side and stomach along with thrashing wildly almost every night. There is no way that I could/would sleep in 1 or 2 positions for the entire night.

I don't feel like I've ever had a deep, good night's sleep in decades.
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Limiting and then quitting drinking alcohol was the best thing I ever did that made a huge improvement in my quality of sleep.

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I think as a person's collar size increases, it's pretty much guaranteed to happen, due to the design of the human neck while sleeping. Beyond 17" or so, it's a near certainty.

One of the many bad things that hit you when you're overweight. I did know a skinny guy who had it, but he was a smoker.
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Old 10-11-20, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
I think as a person's collar size increases, it's pretty much guaranteed to happen, due to the design of the human neck while sleeping. Beyond 17" or so, it's a near certainty.

One of the many bad things that hit you when you're overweight. I did know a skinny guy who had it, but he was a smoker.
Yeah, I have long held the view that sleep studies are superfluous for males over 50 that are even slightly overweight. If you meet that criteria, they should just give you a CPAP and be done with it.
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Old 10-11-20, 01:39 PM
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My GF got one a couple of years ago after doing the sleep study. She admits to being overweight but barely met the criteria for sleep apnea, but has good insurance and got the machine. She sleeps better with using it, and so do I as it cut down on her snoring.
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Yeah, I have long held the view that sleep studies are superfluous for males over 50 that are even slightly overweight. If you meet that criteria, they should just give you a CPAP and be done with it.
There's also really no reason that they need to be prescription devices - the autosense thing works great. Must be some kind of medicare price gouging thing.
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Old 10-11-20, 08:22 PM
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I suspected, and my wife kept hounding me that my snoring was probably sleep apnea (from her friends husbands who applied for and got disability for it). So one day I requested a sleep study from my doc (physician's assistant) and he scheduled it - long story short, I've been using a nose pillow CPAP for a couple months over two years now.

Then I read Dr. Walker's book - and this cemented my resolve to get my 6-9 hours a night. I log my nightly sleep stats: length, L / min, AHI. AHI is your sleep apnea index for that night - goal is under 5. L / min is your leaks - goal is less than 24. If you're a mouth breather, this is the biggest leak (limiting oxygen to the brain). I tried sleeping without the mouth guard - velcro scrip over the top of your head around the bottom of your chin to keep you mouth closed and breathing through your nose) and L / min kept going up near the limit - so I started using it again.

Sleep is very important for proper brain function. This is the time that the brain gets to cleans house - removal of amyloid plaques. You know, those things they find in Alzheimer's brains during post. Do borrow this book - it's a page turner.

Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams, Dr. Matthew P. Walker 2017
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There's also really no reason that they need to be prescription devices - the autosense thing works great. Must be some kind of medicare price gouging thing.
I went to a sleep doctor and convinced him to write me a prescription for a CPAP without a sleep study. If I could have skipped that step I would have.
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The sleep study servers several purposes. You can determine which breathing device you are comfortable with - either the nose pillow or full mask (covers mouth and nose - to me, not comfortable). It determines the air pressure that you need to overcome the obstruction - mine is 8. CPAP turns on at 4 and ramps up to where your setting is. It's not a catch and catch can type of deal. They also determine if you have sleep apnea at all ( AHI of 5 or more ).
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A sleep study is like a professional bike fit, super valuable for some people and totally unnecessary for others. I have been able to figure out the equipment and settings through experimentation without the need for an inconvenient and expensive sleep study. It's not that complicated.
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