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Old 02-07-21, 07:47 PM
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Bill Maher and solar power?

So I am checking in to HBO and see Bill Maher and his show and he flashes up this number...1052 or something like that, and whines about "building a liitle building" but he can't get solar..."

What is the issue? The electric company, his contractor, or local building department? What is the hassle?

Anybody have a clue... I'll admit I dont watch enougg to know what's happening.
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Old 02-08-21, 06:31 AM
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I remember that, my impression was it was the very stringent CA (or maybe LA) building codes & endless red tape that has made his seemingly simple & enviro-friendly project such a hassle.

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I heard him mention it on Rogan in the midst of a rant about Cali red tape, but hes neither an architect nor an engineer so the specifics would likely be difficult for him to articulate without paper in front of him.

Tried to google it and all that came up was his Trump commentary. Maybe your google will be less unhelpful.
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Bill might be blowing smoke as its not that controversial an issue here in California. The 'solar code' here in California has been changed over the years with inpur from the public, power industry, contractors, etc, so its pretty non-controversial. What usually hangs up projects is an HOA that doesn't allow the panels for aesthetic reasons or limits them to a very small footprint, home insurance companies limit them to just the expected use in the building they are on (they don't want to pay for a giant 'power company' on a low-electric use warehouse roof if the panels get damaged by hail or wind), and fire department concerns with roof access. What has been controversial is new homes have to be built to accommodate solar power systems (you don't have to have a system, just the roof has to be able to support the panels, as does the electric system. It all adds cost to the price of the home. It even applies to new apartment buildings.
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No comment can be made anymore without someone, usually on the internet, claiming it's "whining."

Please excuse my "whining."
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Old 02-08-21, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hsuBM View Post
I heard him mention it on Rogan in the midst of a rant about Cali red tape, but hes neither an architect nor an engineer so the specifics would likely be difficult for him to articulate without paper in front of him.

Tried to google it and all that came up was his Trump commentary. Maybe your google will be less unhelpful.
Nah, my google on this was as useless as your's... which is why I hit this group... hoping someone watched a few more shows and understood the issues. I tend to agree that perhaps Bill is blowing a mountain out of a molehill...and either got a poor contractor or just failed to understand the requirements.
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it's not so easy to find a reliable contractor these days. I found info about supplier here https://eltra-trade.com/catalog/siem...power-supplies that provides reliable and energy-efficient solutions for industrial systems worldwide. They offer power supplies for increasing efficiency and protecting industrial equipment during faults and short circuits.

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Old 02-27-21, 11:07 AM
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There is very little out there on exactly what Bill's problem is but I am surmising that this isn't just about his
solar shed (which took three years to bring up to code) but also about a solar system that is unconventional
such as one that has the solar panels mounted on a tracker to keep them pointed at the sun as it travels
across the sky and adjusts for the best angle when the sun is at different heights. If he had wanted regular
solar panels on his roof, he could have had them installed and operating in three months. Unconventional
is what brings about unconventional delays.
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Old 02-27-21, 04:03 PM
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Apparently he is waiting for panels... I can't help but wonder what the real issue is...

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Old 02-28-21, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by hsuBM View Post
I heard him mention it on Rogan in the midst of a rant about Cali red tape, but hes neither an architect nor an engineer so the specifics would likely be difficult for him to articulate without paper in front of him.

Tried to google it and all that came up was his Trump commentary. Maybe your google will be less unhelpful.
try duck duck go. google is biased.
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Old 03-01-21, 09:08 AM
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Long weird ramble that never answers the question... SIGH ^^^^

Odd grammar too:
  • "I to saw his rant on solar turn on blaming CA red tape"
  • "On my real meaning outcome just above, I hear different things when people “profess”.
  • Dems wannabe fall person congresswoman Greene, gave here “free speech” Qanon justification spewing in congress,
I don't believe I want to go to this blogger site... I suspect I'd find a lot more rambling pointless run on sentences.
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Coming from a person who didn't even know that the days and counting is since his system has been complete.
Your comment above, "Apparently he is waiting for panels..." WOW! I can tell you are a quick study....
Don't waste your time visiting the blog site... It won't help you....
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Old 03-01-21, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fcfcfc View Post
Coming from a person who didn't even know that the days and counting is since his system has been complete.
Your comment above, "Apparently he is waiting for panels..." WOW! I can tell you are a quick study....
Don't waste your time visiting the blog site... It won't help you....
If the system is "complete..." what is he waiting for?
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Exactly! The whole thing stinks..
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Not buying it

The 1 picture I saw of his shed showed a substantial foundation, not your run of the mill shed. Im guessing his solar panels arent run of the mill either. I bet hes in an HOA and hes getting panels and a battery that will take him completely off the main grid.



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There is very little out there on exactly what Bill's problem is but I am surmising that this isn't just about his
solar shed (which took three years to bring up to code) but also about a solar system that is unconventional
such as one that has the solar panels mounted on a tracker to keep them pointed at the sun as it travels
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solar panels on his roof, he could have had them installed and operating in three months. Unconventional
is what brings about unconventional delays.
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Some here are saying the solar panels froze and caused the power outages No faith in Bubba Bubbette Electric.
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I watch Maher every week.
His solar system was installed long ago.
He is still waiting for the permits to put it into operation.
The problem is purely state/local bureaucracy.
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Originally Posted by skidder View Post
Bill might be blowing smoke as its not that controversial an issue here in California. The 'solar code' here in California has been changed over the years with inpur from the public, power industry, contractors, etc, so its pretty non-controversial. What usually hangs up projects is an HOA that doesn't allow the panels for aesthetic reasons or limits them to a very small footprint, home insurance companies limit them to just the expected use in the building they are on (they don't want to pay for a giant 'power company' on a low-electric use warehouse roof if the panels get damaged by hail or wind), and fire department concerns with roof access. What has been controversial is new homes have to be built to accommodate solar power systems (you don't have to have a system, just the roof has to be able to support the panels, as does the electric system. It all adds cost to the price of the home. It even applies to new apartment buildings.
Maybe he's getting something that's 'customized'. If that's the case it might need engineering analysis (structural), and that might require that the building they are on be modified to hold them. That can take some extra time, but not 1000+ days. (I'm nor considering the added cost, since Bill has more than enough $$$ to cover that).
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I dug into his solar issue on line. I spent 3 hard hours going through real-estate records, zoning "stuff" and locating his location and verifying it was him etc.. I also showed some information that they did not like on this site along with a comment they did not like, So they removed my post. His system has long been finished and it really look's like it was mounted on a part of his garage rather than any kind of separate "shed". He has a neighbor right next to him that has about 12-15KW on his roof. Also in his general neighborhood there are a decent number of solar systems from PV to swimming pool. I wrote the whole thing into a blog article which got yanked with the censorship, even though all that I showed was open public info.. etc.. From what I could find in print and visual, his whole complaint is BS to satisfy his over regulation narrative. What a surprise..... If you really think about it and step back, he is a double digit millionaire. If he really wanted to have his solar on and normal, I think he could manage it...... don't you....
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
I watch Maher every week.
His solar system was installed long ago.
He is still waiting for the permits to put it into operation.
The problem is purely state/local bureaucracy.
What, is it a matter of HOA "permit," or perhaps living in such an exclusive area that the building department consists of one guy who only works 3 days a week... or what?
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A solar installer (not Bill's installer) put together a 15 min podcast that went into what they think happened based on the info that's out there. The gist of it is; they think Bill's installer didn't do the proper due diligence when designing a system for a really old home in a really old area with really old power lines, and that the install isn't meeting the codes - or that there was a cost overrun to get up to code and Bill isn't paying to have it done. Who knows, but interesting listen nonetheless...

I'm new to the site, so I can't post a direct link yet, but search for; Straight-Talk Solar Cast By Solar Harmonics. It's the February 18, 2021 podcast.
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Poor guy. It's a shame he should have to suffer through this. Life is just not fair.
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Originally Posted by Graphixer View Post
A solar installer (not Bill's installer) put together a 15 min podcast that went into what they think happened based on the info that's out there. The gist of it is; they think Bill's installer didn't do the proper due diligence when designing a system for a really old home in a really old area with really old power lines, and that the install isn't meeting the codes - or that there was a cost overrun to get up to code and Bill isn't paying to have it done. Who knows, but interesting listen nonetheless...

I'm new to the site, so I can't post a direct link yet, but search for; Straight-Talk Solar Cast By Solar Harmonics. It's the February 18, 2021 podcast.
Here is a link to one source of it: https://player.fm/series/straight-ta...lar-bill-maher
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