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Old 03-17-21, 08:16 AM
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Dog Poop Bags

Somehow I missed the new law that says these are now illegal in California... even the "eco friendly" ones.
I'm a Bay Area Latte Sippin' Liberal Tree Hugger, but I don't get it... what's a guy supposed to do?
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Old 03-17-21, 08:39 AM
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I don't know what's happening in California, but I've been hearing and I've been meaning to look into the issue of compostable plastics needing industrial composting facilities to degrade these type plastics.

I'm a little skeptical on that, since hearing about this issue here:

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Old 03-17-21, 08:54 AM
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Either bury it on site. (carry small shovel) Or carry home in your hand. Or carry small brown "lunch sack" in which to hide da poop.
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Sounds like permission to let the chips fall where they may, and leave them.

Might have to resort to ziplocks. Do stores even have the "tear-away" bag caddies [in CA] like the ones next to self-serve checkouts? i.e. like walmart.

I used to use the plastic bags that newspapers came in. Although they're on the too-narrow side. Depends on how big the pile is. I know I know. What's a newspaper? Or lug a gardening trowel and paper bag with you. Or get a...cat instead
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Old 03-17-21, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Somehow I missed the new law that says these are now illegal in California... even the "eco friendly" ones.
I'm a Bay Area Latte Sippin' Liberal Tree Hugger, but I don't get it... what's a guy supposed to do?
I had no idea, but I think it is the right decision. I have never understood the purpose of scooping up the world's most bio-degradable substance and placing it inside the world's least bio-degradable substance.

The people who do this and leave it at the side of the trail (perhaps for the trail custodians?) are extra special.

Not letting fifi crap in the playground in the first place is probably the best policy, closely followed by ritualistic burial so that no one can step and slide around in it.
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Old 03-17-21, 10:23 AM
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The statute contains several nuances and exceptions. For example, although stores generally must charge at least 10 cents per bag, a store may not charge a customer using an EBT card or WIC payment card or voucher for a bag. And certain bags are not subject to the ban, among them bags used by pharmacies for prescriptions, bags without handles that are used to protect purchased items from damage or contamination, and bags used to contain unwrapped food items such as bulk foods. Answers to frequently asked questions concerning stores subject to the bag ban, charges for bags, certification of bags, and enforcement of the bag ban can be found on the CalRecycle page.

https://oag.ca.gov/consumers/bag-ban
...I know it sounds odd, but AFAIK, the plastic bags in grocery stores for bagging produce will still be around. It's been an issue at the farmers markets, where they appear to have a permanent exception. Suggestions in the news have been many and varied.

Yes, plastic bags are handy for picking up animal waste, but there are alternative and easy ways to continue to be a responsible pet owner! For example, you can bring last week’s newspaper on your walk and use it to pick up poop. You can also re-use the grocery store produce bags or other forms of food packaging like bagel or bread bags.
Also, I think you'll still be able to buy them in Nevada, when you go across the border on your runs for ammunition.

Of the people in my location, most walking their dogs take them over to the river, let them run off leash, and pretend that if you don't actually see your dog pooping, it doesn't count.
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Old 03-17-21, 10:26 AM
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Obviously, they expect Californians to trade in their old dog on these:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3acb69cbbc.png
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Old 03-17-21, 10:39 AM
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I'm in Southern California. As of last Sunday morning there were still plastic bags in the vegetable and fruit section at the supermarket. They have 10-cent plastic carry-out bags at checkout for those who don't bring their own recyclable bags. Local MUP along the Santa Ana River has a few places where their are poop bag dispensers, I'll have to check and see if those are still stocked next weekend (I think they're maintained by a 'dog-lovers' or 'environmental' group, not the local government(s)).

Sorry, but I'm NOT going to look in the trash cans along those areas of the MUP to see what dog owners are actually using!

UPDATE: I checked the on-line site of a popular national pet store chain and they have plenty of poop bags in stock at the stores in my California neighborhood. One brand is listed as 'out-of-stock' but plenty of the other brands. There's a few 'scented' varieties, too, for those of your with a discriminating sense of smell.

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Old 03-17-21, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
I have never understood the purpose of scooping up the world's most bio-degradable substance and placing it inside the world's least bio-degradable substance.
Or -- since OP specifically referenced the supposedly bio-degradeable poop bags -- I have never understood the purpose of putting any bio-degradable substance into landfill, which is where most garbage winds up.
Unless the intention is to permanently designate a hug swath of land as Garbage Dump In Perpetuity -- i.e., unless you don't intend to "reclaim" the land and use it for some more useful purpose in the future -- then the last thing you want all that landfill to consist of is volatile material whose size and shape will change over time. If you're going to turn that land into a park or a playground or a shopping mall or a residential community you want that landfill to be solid, intact, and permanent so you can reliably build stuff on top of a stable base.
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Weed, legal. Poopbags, contraband. OK, got it.
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Old 03-17-21, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
Obviously, they expect Californians to trade in their old dog on these:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3acb69cbbc.png
...then you run into the strict laws here on recycling electronic waste. *sigh*
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Old 03-17-21, 11:40 AM
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I don’t get it. I see one particular brand of bag that cannot be shipped to CA. How does that translate to “no poop bags”?
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Once the Kendall road starts melting out, to it's nothing but poop soup. 🤮
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Originally Posted by blacknbluebikes View Post
Weed, legal. Poopbags, contraband. OK, got it.
One ends up in landfills, the other does not.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I don’t get it. I see one particular brand of bag that cannot be shipped to CA. How does that translate to “no poop bags”?
It's all of them, but you have to click on each one to see the message.

https://www.chewy.com/b/poop-bags-14...%20poop%20bags

This is recent because I bought the 350 bag economy box a few months ago from Chewy.

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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
I had no idea, but I think it is the right decision. I have never understood the purpose of scooping up the world's most bio-degradable substance and placing it inside the world's least bio-degradable substance...
Because dog poop doesn't belong outside, especially at the densities that it would be deposited if everyone left it there.

https://www.aaha.org/publications/ne...-dog-shouldnt/
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You should use bags made out of organically grown hemp or bamboo. Rinse them out after every use.
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I can't even believe anyone buys a poop bag. Really?! People buy a bag?! Just use the bags they give you at Walmart, Grocery Store, Gas Station etc.

As noted above...poop is biodegradable. Just carry a stick or small shovel and move it out of the path.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Somehow I missed the new law that says these are now illegal in California... even the "eco friendly" ones.
I'm a Bay Area Latte Sippin' Liberal Tree Hugger, but I don't get it... what's a guy supposed to do?
I will help you out. I have thousands of environmentally unfriendly plastic Walmart and HEB bags I use to clean the cat box and the backyard dog poop. The cow pies I use for fertilizer so I’m keeping that. I always wanted to be a smuggler so I guess I can begin smuggling plastic bags across state lines.
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I had no idea that there was a way that dog pitootie could be made to smell any worse, but the invention of the "scented" dog pitootie bag is it.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
Once the Kendall road starts melting out, to it's nothing but poop soup. 🤮
...there used to be one week every Spring in South Minneapolis that was rough. An entire winter's worth of frozen dog poop all thawed at the same time.
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Every hiking trail is marked with smelly little blue cairns. People set them there planning to forget to pick them up on the way out.

I had a neighbor who did that once. Another neighbor picked the bag up, set it in front of her door, took a picture, and emailed it to the landlord and all tenants, asking if the hallway is an appropriate place to store our dog crap. She moved out shortly afterwards.
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It’s Time to Talk About Dog Poop

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I've gone on hikes where I carry my own poop out.
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Thanks for sharing.
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