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Old 04-03-21, 03:12 PM
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Should I hang on to my CD's (Music)

For some reason I just can't seem to let go of my music CD's (Approx 250). I've digitized them all, have backup copies in both .Wav and .Mp3 format, but something just won't let me give them away. I have a couple of grandkids who would probably like them and find some use for them. It's just that they haven't even been taken out of the box I put them in after I digitized everything and that was about 7 years ago.
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Keep them. Vinyl came back a while ago, cassettes are coming back now, and soon CDs will be hip again.
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Your MP3 formats are not nearly the fidelity of the CDs.

MP3s are nice for portability... CDs are small, store them in some airtight box with StaDri. CDs will degrade over time as the metalic inner layer oxidizes. https://www.npr.org/sections/alltech...0not%20uniform.
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Lose them and free up shelf space. I really envy people who don't have every available spot in their homes filled up with old junk.
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You haven't used them in 7 years. It's a no brainer.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Your MP3 formats are not nearly the fidelity of the CDs.
Why would anybody just CDa when the fidelity isn't nearly as good as in person?

Also he said his music is in two formats and mp3 isn't one of them.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Lose them and free up shelf space. I really envy people who don't have every available spot in their homes filled up with old junk.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to give them to the Grandkids. Although I'm not a prime example, I do believe in a minimalist approach to most things in my life and having all these just sitting there doing nothing kind of bugs me.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Your MP3 formats are not nearly the fidelity of the CDs.
I do have them digitized in .wav format. Then I create Mp3 files out of the songs I want to make more portable. I can load up a 64gb flash drive with a ton of Mp3 rendered songs and play that in my car. I'm not as worried about high fidelity in my car as I am at home.
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wav files may or may not be lossless, but they contain no metadata.
mp3 files are always lossy.

Re-rip them all as FLAC, ALAC, or to some other lossless codec that allows inclusion of metadata.

Keep the CDs as backups. It is actually technically illegal (DMCA) to keep the ripped files if you give away or sell the CDs.
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Old 04-03-21, 07:09 PM
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If you are going to toss them, back them up in a lossless format first.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
Why would anybody just CDa when the fidelity isn't nearly as good as in person?

Also he said his music is in two formats and mp3 isn't one of them.

Yeah, I've always got a band in my car... they take requests... just write it on a 20.

I assumed he was using the MP3s in players. And yes, the wave format is good...

So sure, sell or give away those CDs... what the hell do I know... I have a closet full of vinyl LPs. (We call it the "hall of records")

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flac has the advantage of having an internal checksum so you can make sure you aren't losing anything due to "bitrot".
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Keep your CDs having a hard physical copy of your tunes is good.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Yeah, I've always got a band in my car... they take requests... just write it on a 20.
I don't have a band in my car either. (I have a CD player in my car, I don't know if it works.)

Reading between the lines, it seems like "CDs aren't the best thing possible" doesn't stop you from using them. Now you understand why people listen to music in other formats and don't care whether CDs are theoretically better, or aren't. Glad I could help shed light on this. 🌤️ 🙂
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I don't have a band in my car either. (I have a CD player in my car, I don't know if it works.)

Reading between the lines, it seems like "CDs aren't the best thing possible" doesn't stop you from using them. Now you understand why people listen to music in other formats and don't care whether CDs are theoretically better, or aren't. Glad I could help shed light on this. 🌤️ 🙂
With due respect, I think you might be missing his point: If you rip the CD to a lossless codec, then you haven't discarded any information when/if you trash the CD. If you save them only as compressed mp3 files, then you can never get back the missing bits. It is like raw image photo files or tiff vs. compressed jpg.
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I understand. But the OP has everything backed up as wav files. Didn't say whether they're lossy ones or not, and your point about metadata is well taken. When somebody tells me 23 mm tires are more aerodynamic than 28s, it's true, but that 0.7 watts at 30 mph isn't detectable. When somebody tells me vinyl and CD are better than good audio files, my ears tell me the issue is in principal not in practice.
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I can't reliably hear any difference between a high-bitrate (eg 320 ) mp3 and a lossless file, but I still want my music library to be as lossless as possible. Occassionally the compression algorithm messes up, and that sounds terrible, especially with classical music. I compress on the fly when I load up my iphone for the car. Even my wife, who hates me, my music, and all audiophoolry, can hear the difference between that and the uncompressed versions on the home stereo.
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i suppose it all depends on what compiles the 250 cd's? there are still some cd's that haven't made it into the newest technology. if some of the cd's in question were
slightly/very obscure, i'd keep them but that doesn't sound like the case.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I understand. But the OP has everything backed up as wav files. Didn't say whether they're lossy ones or not, and your point about metadata is well taken. When somebody tells me 23 mm tires are more aerodynamic than 28s, it's true, but that 0.7 watts at 30 mph isn't detectable. When somebody tells me vinyl and CD are better than good audio files, my ears tell me the issue is in principal not in practice.
Could it be those "somebodys" have better hearing than you?

Is it possible that decades of listening to computer cooling fans has destroyed the high frequency response of your hearing?
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over the years people have given me thousands of CDs ... I use them on my PBS prison radio show ... anyone shedding music is welcome to shed it my way
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over the years people have given me thousands of CDs ... I use them on my PBS prison radio show ... anyone shedding music is welcome to shed it my way
I bet you play a lot of Johnny Cash songs.
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I bet you play a lot of Johnny Cash songs.
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Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
i suppose it all depends on what compiles the 250 cd's? there are still some cd's that haven't made it into the newest technology. if some of the cd's in question were
slightly/very obscure, i'd keep them but that doesn't sound like the case.
That's sort of where I'm coming from. Some of the CDs and/or music that I thought might someday be hard to find can be found, whether for free, on the web or digitized quite easily. Also, I'm just not listening to music in the quantities that I use to. Much of the classical stuff has been listened to 2 or 3 times over the last 15 years and now just takes up space.

Unfortunately the acquisition of music whether Vinyl, Tape or even CDs just isn't what it use to be. Buying, listening and holding on to an Vinyl album was much more of a social thing than how music is obtained now.. There was an excitement about calling your friends to tell them you just bought the latest big thing. Now, buying a digitized file online and downloading it just doesn't have all those social components surrounding it.
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I don't want to be too dramatic about it, but I'm keeping my CD-collection and would like other people too for several reasons.
-70% of all music on vinyl records has never been digitalized, if the vinyl is gone, it's gone forever. Might also happen to music on CD's.
- There's a general trend to shift from ownership to (paid) use. That does not only mean you'll keep paying instead of paying once and be done with it, you're also dependent on the one that owns it.
- There's a trend to make old music sound 'better'. Besides that I tend like it best the way I learned to love it at first, if it's my music I want to be the judge which version sounds best. One of my favourite CD's, Fun House by the Stooges, kind of desintegrated after about 25 years. Downloaded it but wasn't sure it was entirely the same, it didn't gave me the same feeling and couldn't know for sure it was just me and that annoyed me. So I made a WAV out of the CD and burned it onto a new one, much better. The 1's and 0's tend to self repair in this process because of the way CD's work.
- There's also a general trend to adapt artistic expressions like books and movies to 'current values', even Dante's Divine Comedy got a more politically correct translation here recentely. I'm really glad I always kept my Asterix comics in the original translation because it's irreplacable. Am I paranoid if I believe that can happen to music too? I'll have my Zappa as puerile as intended, thank you.
- It's been already years ago that windows tried to connect the music on my hard disk to the internet to show a picture with it or something. Is it really unthinkable that you will be charged for playing your own music on your computer in the future?
- It's your collection, that's a little more than just the sum of it's parts. There are your choices in, there's a chronology of purchase, a development in taste, there's wear and tear, traces of parties and times you really played it a lot. You don't have to feel nostalgic about it, but still you can keep that option open. A physical collection is what it is, that has a value of it's own.
- Not too long ago I stumbled upon a deceased's entire vinyl collection. Most of it I knew or rang a bell, and that made me curious about the unknowns, anyway, we had a great night working through it because it was someone's collection, not just a stack of albums.
- Playing a CD is different from playing a file. I've come back from playing music on my computer because I was DJ-ing too much which made me enjoy the music less. Playing a CD kind of forces me to play the full album, and the lesser songs make the better songs more enjoyable to me. Skipping songs turned out not to add to the enjoyment, on the contrary. It's a bit like only watching the action scenes in an action movie, doesn't work either.

So I like music to be collected and collections to be kept for the sake of music and music collecting. I agree it's not the same anymore, only the availability of digital files have changed the value and the character of the CD. It's not a precious posession anymore. It doesn't feel like something to be found and cherished anymore, it's like an easter egg hunt in the fridge, there's no fun in the find. But this is about keeping. If it's about shelf space, throw out the jewel boxes, put them on a spindle and put the inlays in a box, that should save about 3/4 at least. .
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