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Old 10-04-21, 09:25 PM
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I take the nozzle off and use a funnel to fill my boat up with gas. The boat that see water once a year the nearest lake is almost empty! Same method with diesel for my tractor those stupid spring loaded nozzles are PITA.
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Gas cans. Argh! I think I attacked the nozzle of our current gas can with a pair of ****s (Diagonal Wire Cutters) to cut the spring or something out.

It now works like a regular gas can. Or like a gas can did 20 years ago.
I actually found a gas can that almost does everything right...



Now note, I said "almost." The nozzle is too short and not flexible... But as far as dispensing gas and not leaking.... it is wonderful. Now if it would just "grow" a bit longer.

I do find however it works quite well for my outboard and my lawn mower. But to fill a car or tractor... probably not.
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Yes. We have an electronics junk drawer. Most things stay in there forever. Itís like the overstuffed closet in cartoons.

I pulled some junk out and stripped some wire to teach kids about continuity, series, parallel.
Funny thing... I pull stuff out of that "junk drawer" all the time when someone comes to me with... "can you connect to this... " (the price of being "an engineer")

Heck, even my bro in law has an old HPGL plotter... which he was trying to drive with new mac... and asked me... what sort of cable does this need? (serial... but macs have not had those in years, and there is no driver for him) . He ended up buying an old laptop PC just for plotting. Still needed cables. He emails himself the data.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
I actually found a gas can that almost does everything right...



Now note, I said "almost." The nozzle is too short and not flexible... But as far as dispensing gas and not leaking.... it is wonderful. Now if it would just "grow" a bit longer.

I do find however it works quite well for my outboard and my lawn mower. But to fill a car or tractor... probably not.
That's the one I have...the 2-1/2 gallon size. I couldn't believe I had to order it online...such a [reasonably well-designed] basic product couldn't be found locally.
I've had it for a few years now. No regerts.
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That's the one I have...the 2-1/2 gallon size. I couldn't believe I had to order it online...such a [reasonably well-designed] basic product couldn't be found locally.
I've had it for a few years now. No regerts.
I went through a few of those awful spring loaded contraptions first... and ended up just taking off the damn cap and using a funnel when I needed gas... of course that spilled and allowed fumes to escape and totally "violated" the idea of a "safe gas can."

Then I found that "no-spill" variety... which works for most of my needs. It just needs a nozzle extension for my truck. (only used on long hauling trips).
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I went through a few of those awful spring loaded contraptions first... and ended up just taking off the damn cap and using a funnel when I needed gas... of course that spilled and allowed fumes to escape and totally "violated" the idea of a "safe gas can."

Then I found that "no-spill" variety... which works for most of my needs. It just needs a nozzle extension for my truck. (only used on long hauling trips).

My gas can works like a real gas can now. Those safety nozzles can be defeated a couple ways. Picturing it in my mind I think the tip of the device can be cut off. Maybe a cut disc in an angle grinder would work.

Whats a plotter?
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Originally Posted by SkinGriz View Post
My gas can works like a real gas can now. Those safety nozzles can be defeated a couple ways. Picturing it in my mind I think the tip of the device can be cut off. Maybe a cut disc in an angle grinder would work.

Whats a plotter?
It's an old drawing machine that uses ink filled pens in a moving "head" to draw on a large sheet of paper, so you can submit your drawings to old fashion building departments so they can issue a building permit. I know, hard to believe, eh? (always check the ink supply before starting)

Hey, about 20 years ago, I had to submit all my output files on a floppy disk with a large format drawing to satisfy our configuration management department... At the same time, I "tar'd and compressed" those files and FTP'd them to the vendor using this thing called the "internets..." But again, my company required a drawing and a floppy, and I physically walked these items to CM. (the drawing had to be folded in just the right manner too.)

Imagine the irony, when the year after we bought a very very expensive fast plotter, we no longer had to submit drawings.

My brother in law is an architect, and some building departments still want paper drawings.

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Huh.
Have taken a couple drafting classes. Both hand and computer.
Loved the classes. Did not know about a plotter.
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Most printers just print a giant grid of tiny dots, like most image file formats (gif, png, jpg, ...)

A plotter draws lines with pens, much more analagous to svg -- at least bitd. Maybe it's all inkjet nowadays

At work at one time we had a 4-color plotter that took in paper on 4-foot wide spools, and I guess could create a banner 4ft wide and as long as you want.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Most printers just print a giant grid of tiny dots, like most image file formats (gif, png, jpg, ...)

A plotter draws lines with pens, much more analagous to svg -- at least bitd. Maybe it's all inkjet nowadays

At work at one time we had a 4-color plotter that took in paper on 4-foot wide spools, and I guess could create a banner 4ft wide and as long as you want.
I know at the commercial places my wife uses, it is indeed inkjet... But yeah, the plotters used pens... which were their own "hell." Oh so long ago...
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Most printers just print a giant grid of tiny dots, like most image file formats (gif, png, jpg, ...)

A plotter draws lines with pens, much more analagous to svg -- at least bitd. Maybe it's all inkjet nowadays

At work at one time we had a 4-color plotter that took in paper on 4-foot wide spools, and I guess could create a banner 4ft wide and as long as you want.
I don't know if it's really true, but nature itself can be thought of as a bunch of tiny dots. Space is probably continuous, but things can only happen within a grid that could theoretically be addressable by x, y, and z coordinates, each one cubic Planck length. Vector is a hoax!
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I don't understand what the problem is.
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lol none of those will charge an iPhone
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As @CliffordK said, wireless is universal. Except among the prolos with phones that can't do that.
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As @CliffordK said, wireless is universal. Except among the prolos with phones that can't do that.
Well, I don't have wireless charging yet, but it is coming, and is the logical choice to reduce charging port wear. Plus, wireless data transfers.

A few years ago I was one of the last holdouts of laptops with CDs. But, it is rare that I use a CD with a laptop.

If only I could figure out how to get a CD to read a 5 1/4" floppy!!!
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what's the inefficiency/loss through wireless charging vs with a copper cable?
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@RubeRad I think my phone allows for 45w charging through a wire and 15w through the glass.

I prefer hiking with friends and we all prefer to carpool. With Apple plus Android on USB C and Micro all in use among my friends, I have a second wireless port and some outlets for when it's my turn to drive.
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Well, I don't have wireless charging yet, but it is coming, and is the logical choice to reduce charging port wear. Plus, wireless data transfers.

A few years ago I was one of the last holdouts of laptops with CDs. But, it is rare that I use a CD with a laptop.

If only I could figure out how to get a CD to read a 5 1/4" floppy!!!
CDs are still big for small new music bands... they are cheap to produce, and easy to sell as "merch" at performances. And as yet, vastly more cars have CD players than USB ports.
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CDs are still big for small new music bands... they are cheap to produce, and easy to sell as "merch" at performances. And as yet, vastly more cars have CD players than USB ports.
If they wished to sell MP3's, they could pack their life's work on a single 256MB flash drive which would be dirt cheap, and quicker to "burn" than a CD. Add video, and one gets perhaps a 32gb flash.

I rarely use my car CD. I'm not sure if some of the new vehicles even have CD players.
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If they wished to sell MP3's, they could pack their life's work on a single 256MB flash drive which would be dirt cheap. Add video, and one gets perhaps a 32gb flash.

I rarely use my car CD. I'm not sure if some of the new vehicles even have CD players.
Sure... and thumb drives are honestly how I transport recordings from studio to computer and vice versa.

And to answer your question... my wife's 2016 new car has a CD player, and will accept flash drives, and has sat radio.

But, consider that
The average age of vehicles on American roads continues to climb, with the figure now reaching 12.1 years, according to research from IHS Markit. This is the first time that the average age has been higher than 12 years
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...road-12-years/

So the likelihood of a vehicle having a CD player, verses a flash drive player, is pretty darn high. Oh and not to mention "the cover art."
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New cars don't have CD players. People don't really use USB for music as far as I know.
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New cars don't have CD players. People don't really use USB for music as far as I know.
New cars represent about 6% of all the traffic out there... so the market for CDs is still "good enough" for a small band as front door "merch." I have noticed some bands are now back to cutting LPs... So apparently there is a market for even larger "cover art."

Now regarding that USB thing... her 2016 car will take a flash drive, and the music system I installed in my old boat, back in about 2013, also has a flash drive option... which actually I prefer, as CDs around salt water are not a good thing. Not to mention the salt air acting on the moving parts of the CD drive itself.
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I like having CDs a hard solid copy of music. But most of the time I’m on SiriusXM or Amazon music using Bluetooth.
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New cars don't have CD players. People don't really use USB for music as far as I know.
Maybe it is really the people that you know that don't use USB for music. Perhaps you should expand your horizons about music preferences beyond your techie friends.

I listen to my audio (music, audio books, and downloaded podcasts) downloaded to my tiny mp3 player when I ride my bike, and from thumb drives when I drive my car. Both are uploaded through the USB connection from my computer. The thumb drive is outputted through the USB port of my aftermarket car radio/receiver to the car speakers. The mp3 player output is through a handy dandy 3.5mm cable to ear plugs when riding, and through the aux port on the car radio if am using both modes of travel to get somewhere.
I don't normally listen to audio stored on my smartphone but I can upload a zillion GBs of music and audiobooks from my home computer to it through the USB ports. If I found a need for listening to smartphone audio, it can easily be outputted to headphones or my car or the speakers of my home sound systems though the 3.5mm ports on phone and receiver ports.
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Maybe it is really the people that you know that don't use USB for music. Perhaps you should expand your horizons about music preferences beyond your techie friends.

I listen to my audio (music, audio books, and downloaded podcasts) downloaded to my tiny mp3 player when I ride my bike, and from thumb drives when I drive my car. Both are uploaded through the USB connection from my computer. The thumb drive is outputted through the USB port of my aftermarket car radio/receiver to the car speakers. The mp3 player output is through a handy dandy 3.5mm cable to ear plugs when riding, and through the aux port on the car radio if am using both modes of travel to get somewhere.
I don't normally listen to audio stored on my smartphone but I can upload a zillion GBs of music and audiobooks from my home computer to it through the USB ports. If I found a need for listening to smartphone audio, it can easily be outputted to headphones or my car or the speakers of my home sound systems though the 3.5mm ports on phone and receiver ports.

WHAT?!? You're using a 3.5mm port... Oh the horror. Get on the bandwagon and go BT...

At least that is what so many seem to be saying...
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