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Old 10-06-21, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
Maybe it is really the people that you know that don't use USB for music. Perhaps you should expand your horizons about music preferences beyond your techie friends.
Such judgmental tone!

My wife burns like 100-ish mp3s onto a CD-R and has a handful of those rotating in the car (old passat wagon). And there's also a 3.5mm jack, my son plays stuff off his phone that way. The car also has bluetooth, but it's old enough that it's annoyingly wonky to use.

I listen to podcasts on my trusty Sony ICD UX70. In the passat I could use the 3.5mm jack, but in that car I'm more likely to just tune in npr. in our other car which has a cassette player I keep one of those dummy cassettes with a 3.5mm cable hanging out. But it is a USB interface under that cap, and I have plugged it into USBs on other cars.

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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
I like having CDs a hard solid copy of music. But most of the time Iím on SiriusXM or Amazon music using Bluetooth.
​​​​​​I used to. Then it became a lot of **** to deal with. I have to keep them organized somehow. Every time I put one in the wrong case I'd wind up grabbing it for a 2 hour drive to a hiking trail, open the case, it's the wrong thing, and then I'm disappointed. If I want to hear songs from different bands like a mix take, it's a pita. I really just want to be able to hear good music, and holy crap that's so much better and easier now.
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As someone who has yet to buy an Apple product (never!) I've managed quite nicely with the other USB configs.
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Old 10-06-21, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
WHAT?!? You're using a 3.5mm port... Oh the horror. Get on the bandwagon and go BT...

At least that is what so many seem to be saying...
At least that is what those who are enthralled by the shimmering glimmer created by the application of the most current "elegant" high zoot solutions to simple problems are saying. Better yet if "they say" their expert opinions with lots of references to irrelevant expertise in other fields.
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I'm technically in that camp, although I sometimes carry an iPhone SE that my work bought.
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Old 10-06-21, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
I don't understand what the problem is.

Holy poop, that's one hell of a problem solver isn't it!
Oh BTW our new 10 port USB charger will arrive today. Ordered that after checking all the charging rates on the individual chargers ..... slow, slower, slowest Not one of them in the 2.4A range
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Such judgmental tone!

My wife burns like 100-ish mp3s onto a CD-R and has a handful of those rotating in the car (old passat wagon). And there's also a 3.5mm jack, my son plays stuff off his phone that way. The car also has bluetooth, but it's old enough that it's annoyingly wonky to use.

I listen to podcasts on my trusty Sony ICD UX70. In the passat I could use the 3.5mm jack, but in that car I'm more likely to just tune in npr. in our other car which has a cassette player I keep one of those dummy cassettes with a 3.5mm cable hanging out. But it is a USB interface under that cap, and I have plugged it into USBs on other cars.

You seem to agree with my judgement about premature declaration of the demise of the usefulness for the USB port for listening to music!
A single 16 GB thumbdrive can hold hundreds of albums of mp3 music recorded at 128KBs or several dozen complete Mp3 audio books; no wear and tear on the CD mechanism in the car.
I have been using the same pair of Cowan Audio 7 mp3 players daily since 2011 for the 8 GB version and 2012 for the 16 GB version. I still use the headophones when listening bed so as not to wake the wife, and with smaller ear plugs than are pictured for bike riding. The Lithium battery lasts for about 50-60 hours of playback. It has am-fm and recording capability but I never use it.



I can anticipate the response of the posters who have dog like hearing capability and appreciate the super duper sonic quality of the high zoot audio devices when played back in the music hall-like auditory chamber of their SUV's interior when traveling down the highway. Especially important when listening to Pearl Jam and Nirvana at full blast.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
Maybe it is really the people that you know that don't use USB for music. Perhaps you should expand your horizons about music preferences beyond your techie friends.
​​​​​​You don't need to be so unpleasant all the time.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
​​​​​​You don't need to be so unpleasant all the time.
No doubt you would find it much more pleasant if everyone agreed with your opinionated statements about the proper way to use electronic devices and/or listen to music.
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Old 10-06-21, 01:39 PM
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Jamming with windows down at 75mph is liberating and stress reducing. I got the BT jamming now to Ozzy’s Boneyard via SiriusXM but keep CDs handy for whenever. Bad weather knocks out the Internet so the CDs are great to have. Doesn’t matter just crank it up


High decibel rock n roll or metal scares away ghosts. If a ghost starts pestering me I crank it up and they leave.
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I have an old 1995 Convertible Miata that my wife bought on a lark a few years ago. First thing I repaired was the stereo system on board. (had some wiring issues). Fixed the charging system too.

While I never hit 75MPH in that thing... rolling down local farm and mountain highways with the top down and CD player blasting is indeed "liberating and stress reducing," as is grinding through all 5 gears.

Almost as stress reducing as a good bike ride, but without the sweat factor.
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Old 10-06-21, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
I have an old 1995 Convertible Miata that my wife bought on a lark a few years ago. First thing I repaired was the stereo system on board. (had some wiring issues). Fixed the charging system too.

While I never hit 75MPH in that thing... rolling down local farm and mountain highways with the top down and CD player blasting is indeed "liberating and stress reducing," as is grinding through all 5 gears.

Almost as stress reducing as a good bike ride, but without the sweat factor.
My sister had 1993 Honda Del Sol the clone similar of a Miata at the time. 5 speed and could scoot. Semi convertible you could remove the top. I drove it a few times could hit 100 fairly quickly. Anyways I installed a stereo with a power booster for her back then when power boosters were a thing I guess. Damn time flies by fast. Itís almost 2022
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
My sister had 1993 Honda Del Sol the clone similar of a Miata at the time. 5 speed and could scoot. Semi convertible you could remove the top. I drove it a few times could hit 100 fairly quickly. Anyways I installed a stereo with a power booster for her back then when power boosters were a thing I guess. Damn time flies by fast. Itís almost 2022
Oh I could probably hit 75, maybe even 100 in the Miata... but the roads I am talking about are not suitable for speed... more fun driving the curves and shifting up and down the hills.

The stereo in this thing does not have a power booster, but it is plenty loud... and I just discovered Miata has speakers in the headrests... and I think these are not connected. The previous owner did some odd customizations and complained that he could not get the after market radio to ever work... there were two misconnections... I just traced the wires carefully. Now that I know about the headrest speakers, I'll go back and see if they can be added into the wire harness somehow. (there is always "a way..." but soldering inside the dashboard is a PITA, and the leads are darn short at the radio...)
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Oh I could probably hit 75, maybe even 100 in the Miata... but the roads I am talking about are not suitable for speed... more fun driving the curves and shifting up and down the hills.

The stereo in this thing does not have a power booster, but it is plenty loud... and I just discovered Miata has speakers in the headrests... and I think these are not connected. The previous owner did some odd customizations and complained that he could not get the after market radio to ever work... there were two misconnections... I just traced the wires carefully. Now that I know about the headrest speakers, I'll go back and see if they can be added into the wire harness somehow. (there is always "a way..." but soldering inside the dashboard is a PITA, and the leads are darn short at the radio...)
Yup, those twist and turns in California. Drove slow thru N California it was awesome then hit the 101 to Oregon. Awesome trip 55 was fast enough lol. Perfect roads for your Miata.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
You seem to agree with my judgement about premature declaration of the demise of the usefulness for the USB port for listening to music!
And yet see how I can agree with your judgment, without being judgmental?

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​​​​​​You don't need to be so unpleasant all the time.
I dunno, I'm starting to think he does need to
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
And yet see how I can agree with your judgment, without being judgmental?


I dunno, I'm starting to think he does need to
Who sez you are not judgmental? Of course you are, just like the other poster, read your own post; both sentences. You don't like your version of Conventional Wisdom challenged and resort to ad hominem or appeals to false authority arguments, and/or snark when unable to provide a logical argument or relevant response.
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All I'm sayin is, we were having a perfectly cordial conversation, and you decided to react to "New cars don't have CD players. People don't really use USB for music as far as I know." as if it was an attack.
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Older BT car stereos (like mine) can be finicky. Mine can only be paired with one phone at a time. To connect a different person's phone it has to forget mine.

I don't know if this is Android or Samsung, but modern phones can use each other as a conduit to stream through. Mary can be in charge of music while I drive. She records her own music, so it's nice to be able to share easily. 🙂
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
Yup, those twist and turns in California. Drove slow thru N California it was awesome then hit the 101 to Oregon. Awesome trip 55 was fast enough lol. Perfect roads for your Miata.
Yeah, the coast is not flat and straight, like most of Texas.
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I use the BT to 3.5 adapter for our older car.

It works well enough.

Mostly podcasts and books.

I canceled Sat Radio.
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So an engineer did what AAPL said it could not do... (of course he did, that's why God invented engineers... )

Earlier this fall, the European Union designated USB-C as the common charging port for future phones. While we wait for Apple to get with the program, an enterprising engineer went ahead and made what might be the world’s first iPhone with USB-C.

In a recent video on YouTube (via Apple Insider), engineering student Ken Pillonel shared how, with a lot of work and some tricky reverse engineering, he was eventually able to add a working USB-C port to a modern iPhone—an iPhone X, in this case.

That wasn’t the end of the challenge. Pillonel said the other major hurdle was getting all the new components to fit inside the iPhone’s chassis, which eventually required him to fully reverse engineer the C94 connector’s circuit board. But in the end, Pillonel’s hard work paid off: He claims he was able to build an iPhone with USB-C that can both charge and transfer data without issue.
https://gizmodo.com/engineer-one-ups...t-t-1847846266

Meanwhile, the rest of you will have to continue to dream about a day when we might have an iPhone that can use the same charging cable as an iPad or most Android handsets.
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I just ordered two table top multi port usb towers. ASA deals they have something on the local noon news anyways ordered two. Now I can charge everything at the same time! In one place! Friking cords everywhere
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I just ran across this, don't remember whether it was linked in any of genec's other headphone jack screeds...

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See... I'm not the only one that wants a straight audio 3.5mm jack on their phone.

All the reasons Apple and others have given for removal of the headphone jack are BS or "trenched" in this "fashion statement" argument... and frankly, folks that insist on "wireless headsets" have ALWAYS been able to go that route.

By removing the 3.5mm connection, a feature was taken away... nothing was added, nothing was improved. Just better quality audio, and robust connections were removed.

Now about that USB C connector...

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This point was probably made, but my perception is that a bluetooth chip inside the phone, vs a 3mm jack that requires machining of the case, is cheaper to manufacture (not to mention a component that would be liable to mechanical failure from repeated use) Same for wireless vs cable charging. Same for not including ethernet ports in cheap laptops anymore.
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